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drvenner said:
I am a Christian, and I am not disputing what you're saying here ; however, I believe these types of testimonials drive more people away from the church than get them to come. JMO
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Why is that? Faith like a mustard seed. If God can move mountains then...not here to prophecy. I'm not in any position.

I will say that i do believe in plans, and His plans for people. Saul, David, Dog the Bounty Hunter. Ok. Had to break of the seriousness. But, if he is genuine. Then him too.
 
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Devo182 said:
Very glad for her and her specific case, but overarching research does not show any success for faith healing. Of course, as long as best medicine practices are used in conjunction, maybe there's no harm in it. Unfortunately some reject all medicine and therapy and will only attempt faith healing. Much worse when they force their children down this path, much to their harm.

I suspect if there was something to this, then people would flock there in droves and be healed in droves. It would be revolutionary. Have not heard of any such thing. It would be the ultimate cure for cancer and everything else. Why would anyone send themselves through radiation therapy for thousands and tens of thousands of dollars, when they could be healed like this? And if someone wanted money for performing these rituals, then surely they would be out there doing this as well, backed by research and major health organizations everywhere.

Again, I don't really care about any of this and it's probably benign for many. But anecdotal cases of freak happenings are a world away from being evidence of something working over a large set of people/instances.
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I think the research is probably flawed in that not a lot of people believe it is possible... believe it or not there are reports (documented reports) of people being raised from the dead lol... but I’m not getting that deep. I have seen too much to not know it is 100% legit... it doesn’t happen every time... I personally prayed for probably about 1,000 people before I saw someone healed. I was just determined because I saw it in the Bible and wanted to see it displayed now... there is a guy named John G Lake.... go look him up. He lived in Spokane WA and it was declared the healthiest city in America because of all the healings... crazy stuff.

Also, this is fairly new to the church (atleast again) you have whole camps of people that believe it doesn’t exist within Christian church’s so that hinders the whole “people flocking to this” along with it being Christian because there is a lifestyle it requires... not that if you do this and this then this happens. There is no formula to make a miracle happen... it’s faith which is impossible to quantify. I’m not really asking anyone to believe me or to shove my beliefs on anyone.. (I feel I have been pretty respectful to everyone) to me it’s kinda like arguing that Santa’s real... you wouldn’t argue that because you know that’s not true. So I’m not going to argue that this is real or fake. I know it is from personal experience, I don’t expect someone to just believe a random poster on an anonymous board... however I did and do think it’s ignorant to Group people together and stigmatize them.. not that you are, just from previous posts. I appreciate your comments though.
 
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drvenner said:
I am a Christian, and I am not disputing what you're saying here ; however, I believe these types of testimonials drive more people away from the church than get them to come. JMO
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I wasn’t really trying to get them to church or from it... but I understand what you are saying.
 
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It's always funny to me when people of the Western hemisphere try and say that North and South America is America and the USofA is not America. Yet, the USofA if the only country in the Western hemisphere with America in its name. Hence why we shorten it to America
 
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