Gun control debate (merged)

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0nelilreb said:
We have tons of “ rational and reasonable “ regulations , adding more when we don’t police the ones we have now doesn’t fix anything . You are still choosing your words carefully as the left continues to ask for more and more . I’ll agree that the majority would never agree to a total gun ban , but that’s not what liberals are asking for , they want to eat the apple one bite at a time . Notice what the extremely popular AOC is calling for now .. semi-autos .

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UBGC = federal registry...step one

Disarm abusers = WTF does that even mean?

Mandate safe storage = legalizing unlawful search and seizure...step 2

Who makes the decision on what semi-auto is designed to kill people? Knives kill people. Baseball bats kill people. Tobacco kills way more people a year than guns do and I don't see anyone trying to ban that...step 3 out right house to house confiscation.
 
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0nelilreb said:
We have tons of “ rational and reasonable “ regulations , adding more when we don’t police the ones we have now doesn’t fix anything . You are still choosing your words carefully as the left continues to ask for more and more . I’ll agree that the majority would never agree to a total gun ban , but that’s not what liberals are asking for , they want to eat the apple one bite at a time . Notice what the extremely popular AOC is calling for now .. semi-autos .

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She would not know the difference between a semi auto and a revolver if it bit her on the tits.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
UBGC = federal registry...step one

Disarm abusers = WTF does that even mean?

Mandate safe storage = legalizing unlawful search and seizure...step 2

Who makes the decision on what semi-auto is designed to kill people? Knives kill people. Baseball bats kill people. Tobacco kills way more people a year than gums do and I don't see anyone trying to ban that...step 3 out right house to house confiscation.
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That’s why they know they have to do this a step at a time , also why luther chooses his wording very carefully . They could never get enough people to agree to a “ total “ gun ban like luther pointed out . They however never stop chewing around the edges and trying for one item at a time . AOC isn’t smart enough yet to know you never pile up items like that no matter how badly you want them all gone . She will learn .
 
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0nelilreb said:
That’s why they know they have to do this a step at a time , also why luther chooses his wording very carefully . They could never get enough people to agree to a “ total “ gun ban like luther pointed out . They however never stop chewing around the edges and trying for one item at a time . AOC isn’t smart enough yet to know you never pile up items like that no matter how badly you want them all gone . She will learn .
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She has no compunction about politicizing every shooting before the corpses are even cold.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Actually, I got the news on Ollie before anyone in the media.

Yep, I know what's going on. Do you?
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So who’s doing the power play here? North and the GC? Or La Pierre? Or both? In the long run I’m gonna guess the trash gets taken out and it’s cleaned up if there’s dirty stuff going on. This ad agency looks like maybe a big part of the problem too?
 
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luthervol said:
It's that whole coming into contact with humans thing.
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Asbestos causes damage just by being there. And when it does it is fairly incurable.

As far as I know guns dont cause cancer by being in the same room as them. Maybe this is just part of your rational and reasonable side making really bad comparisons
 
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Arizona man arrested in accidental shooting of daughter, 6, as he 'was teaching her gun safety': cops

An Arizona man has been arrested in the accidental shooting of his 6-year-old daughter, who cops say was critically injured as her father was teaching her gun safety.

Eldon McInville, 26, was arrested and charged with child abuse and aggravated assault after cops were called to his Glendale home Thursday afternoon in response to a shooting. The girl was shot in the abdomen and faces months of recovery.

“He advised that he had the victim in his room and was teaching her gun safety,” court papers said, according to KPNX-TV.

He also advised that as he was cleaning the weapon and he half-cocked it "so he could load birdshot ammunition into it for storage,” according to the court papers.

“He stated that when he loaded the weapon he was seated on the floor of the bedroom and that when he went to stand up he slipped and fell and somehow the gun went off.”

Cops said they were told that the weapon was a shotgun he had recently purchased.

The court papers state that McInville told the cops that he was cleaning the shotgun for the first time and had researched how to load it on YouTube and Google, according to the station.

A sobbing McInville pleaded with a judge to release him so he could help his family during a court appearance Friday, Fox 10 Phoenix reported.

Arizona man arrested in accidental shooting of daughter, 6, as he 'was teaching her gun safety': cops
 
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LouderVol said:
Asbestos causes damage just by being there. And when it does it is fairly incurable.

As far as I know guns dont cause cancer by being in the same room as them. Maybe this is just part of your rational and reasonable side making really bad comparisons
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No it can’t cause issues just by being there. It has to be disturbed. Hence why it’s still in tons of schools.
 
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hog88 said:
And it takes continuous exposure at high doses.
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My father, a trial lawyer, was part of an EPA team tasked with how to handle asbestos in public schools. Which led to him being offered a job being Jimmy Hoffa’s personal lawyer. Hoffa took my mom and dad out to dinner to try to woo him. My mom told my dad she would divorce his ass if he accepted. So he politely declined.
 
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volfanhill said:
My father, a trial lawyer, was part of an EPA team tasked with how to handle asbestos in public schools. Which led to him being offered a job being Jimmy Hoffa’s personal lawyer. Hoffa took my mom and dad out to dinner to try to woo him. My mom told my dad she would divorce his ass if he accepted. So he politely declined.
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That’s a cool story.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
So who’s doing the power play here? North and the GC? Or La Pierre? Or both? In the long run I’m gonna guess the trash gets taken out and it’s cleaned up if there’s dirty stuff going on. This ad agency looks like maybe a big part of the problem too?
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Not sure. I haven't been able to discuss it at that depth yet.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Arizona man arrested in accidental shooting of daughter, 6, as he 'was teaching her gun safety': cops

An Arizona man has been arrested in the accidental shooting of his 6-year-old daughter, who cops say was critically injured as her father was teaching her gun safety.

Eldon McInville, 26, was arrested and charged with child abuse and aggravated assault after cops were called to his Glendale home Thursday afternoon in response to a shooting. The girl was shot in the abdomen and faces months of recovery.

“He advised that he had the victim in his room and was teaching her gun safety,” court papers said, according to KPNX-TV.

He also advised that as he was cleaning the weapon and he half-cocked it "so he could load birdshot ammunition into it for storage,” according to the court papers.

“He stated that when he loaded the weapon he was seated on the floor of the bedroom and that when he went to stand up he slipped and fell and somehow the gun went off.”

Cops said they were told that the weapon was a shotgun he had recently purchased.

The court papers state that McInville told the cops that he was cleaning the shotgun for the first time and had researched how to load it on YouTube and Google, according to the station.

A sobbing McInville pleaded with a judge to release him so he could help his family during a court appearance Friday, Fox 10 Phoenix reported.

Arizona man arrested in accidental shooting of daughter, 6, as he 'was teaching her gun safety': cops
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The best way to handle a gun is to not have one.
 
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volfanhill said:
Completely asinine. Do you want me to list the thousands of stories of where people save their own life bc they had one?
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I agree with your statement but I’ll offer it’s a matter of personal choice. If evil doesn’t want a gun so be it that’s her choice. But she needs to keep her choices to herself and not imprint them on me.
 
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