2020 Presidential Race

Minimizing pain and suffering is a fu**ed up priority? Who knew?
No you thinking massive harm and death is preferable to the re-election of a President is a messed up priority. That you would in any way think any of the options I listed, and the one you said you were for, would ever be preferable is a messed up priority. Now I know you will say that you mean the short term pain is less then the long term of another Trump term. And I would counter that this would be yet another example of you having your head firmly stuck up your ass. Trump, while being a giant dbag and liar, has not caused massive harm to the people of our country.
 
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You are way, way more optimistic than I. Basically 35% of the country is unreachable. That was enough to elect him the first time around. It can be enough to elect him again.
It's going to be a lot higher than 35. Not saying 50s but it will be in the high 40s.

1. Incumbents always do well
2. Economy is doing ok/good
3. He survived the Mueller report. May not have come out clean but in the eyes of many they will see more of the lies against trump and be more willing to forgive Trump. Just because of the reaction to 2 years of bs.
4. Part of number 1 but incumbents can typically go off the deep in on their side, or go more moderate. I think trump is more moderate/left than he let's on. So I could see him coming out on some different things from 2016. Which could swing a good number of people.
5. Reaction to the Dems. They still dont have a real message, and are trying to out crazy each other to find one. The flip flopping wont sit well

Jmo
 
He and his ilk have done plenty. Rise in hate speech, rise in white nationalism, calling for violence against people that don't support him. Acting like a little tyrant. There is much more. He is garbage, absolute trash.

But the Antifa, socialist, and communist inspired riots and hate from the liberal side are the way to a more "progressive" union; and, therefore, completely acceptable?
 
1. Nobody thought it would be funny to burn the house down.
2. That is completely false.
3. Again completely false.

You guys are dooming yourselves to failure again unless you wake up and realize what really happened here. Republican primary voters were sick and tired of the same candidate by a different name running and absolutely sick to death of the Bush family so Trump was a breath of fresh air. Brash and didn't back down. So he won the nomination. You guys nominated the worst possible candidate to run in 2016, Hillary is the epitome of the Washington political elite and vast swaths of the country was not going to put up with that anymore. Not to mention she was so arrogant that she decided she didn't need to campaign in WI and MI. And now it appears you guys will take a hard swing left which will not play well in middle America.

Y'all can keep living in denial about what really happened and keep losing or wake up.
One more option: wake up and keep losing.
 
No, he fully believes it. That piece of **** would have half the country in camps if he was given any power.

You really do an excellent job. It's like you read every left wing piece of trash "news" source and then spew it right back out with no thought between. You're really very talented. Wouldn't want to leave KingstonVol out, he's good too. You guys have really raised the bar. Very, very impressed.
 
He and his ilk have done plenty. Rise in hate speech, rise in white nationalism, calling for violence against people that don't support him. Acting like a little tyrant. There is much more. He is garbage, absolute trash.
besides the fake white nationalism bs you sound exactly like Maxine Waters on TV. Incites violence? Check. Hate speech from Democrat members of Congress? Check. Hate speech from dim sympathizers? Check. Calls for violence by democrats? Check. Do you live in a bubble?


Oh yeah..trump has caused a rise in hate crimes. The fake ones though..
 
It's going to be a lot higher than 35. Not saying 50s but it will be in the high 40s.

1. Incumbents always do well
2. Economy is doing ok/good
3. He survived the Mueller report. May not have come out clean but in the eyes of many they will see more of the lies against trump and be more willing to forgive Trump. Just because of the reaction to 2 years of bs.
4. Part of number 1 but incumbents can typically go off the deep in on their side, or go more moderate. I think trump is more moderate/left than he let's on. So I could see him coming out on some different things from 2016. Which could swing a good number of people.
5. Reaction to the Dems. They still dont have a real message, and are trying to out crazy each other to find one. The flip flopping wont sit well

Jmo
This is a solid write up. I've said for almost a couple years now that Trump will win reelection.

As you said, incumbents do well, plus a good economy. Hard to argue with history.

He survived the Mueller report, but his supporters never cared anyways. At this point he can shoot a dude in the face and his Red Hats will not care.

Trump is a right-wing wet dream. He is as far from a progressive as a progressive can be.

See above.
 
He and his ilk have done plenty. Rise in hate speech, rise in white nationalism, calling for violence against people that don't support him. Acting like a little tyrant. There is much more. He is garbage, absolute trash.

You could have just said “nothing” and saved yourself some typing.
 
Dang what hit a nerve? 2nd amendment rights? Or desire to allow terrorist felons to vote?
I don't support gun control (well, except for like rocket launchers or crazy ****). Nonviolent felons should be allowed to vote. You do your time, there is no reason you should be permanently removed from society.

Mike Pence can go **** himself.
 
besides the fake white nationalism bs you sound exactly like Maxine Waters on TV. Incites violence? Check. Hate speech from Democrat members of Congress? Check. Hate speech from dim sympathizers? Check. Calls for violence by democrats? Check. Do you live in a bubble?


Oh yeah..trump has caused a rise in hate crimes. The fake ones though..
Hate crimes have risen drastically in the last two years. Just a coincidence, I'm sure.
 
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