Mueller Report Imminent

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NCFisher said:
Nothing changed. Starr operated under the independent counsel statute, which expired in 1999 and was replaced by DOJ lawyers under the Clinton WH in 2000. Muller operated under those special counsel regulations created in 2000. You can read up on it here: https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44857.pdf

Two different sets of rules governing two different types of investigators. This is what talking-head pundits haven't been telling you since the DOJ summary, while keeping your hopes stoked up for the 'big there'. AFTER they've not been right about anything for nearly three years.

At some point, you have to cut your losses or continue being a sucker.
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luther is an all day, every day sucker.
 
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luthervol said:
No. We only know about them because they DIDN'T stay secret. We have no way of knowing which things did stay secret. That's the thing with secrets.
I guess we need a theft and a supreme court case. Which is where this will end up.

Let's not forget......this is all due to the desire to hide information damaging to Trump.
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That's what I'm saying, THEY DIDN'T STAY SECRET! No flipping way Barr can alter, hide, shade or do anything underhanded with the Muells report and it stay secret. There is more than 1 copy and it will be "leaked" if Barr pulls some shady crap.
 
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nuclearjunky said:
Luther I was a Democrat voter for most of my adult life. I have posted about it before. I’m a dues paying union member. I voted for Obama the first term. I donated to Harold Ford Jr when he ran and voted for him. Hell I voted John Kerry. I just grew older and wiser and saw what was happening to our country and realized that the Democratic Party no longer cared about the things that I felt were important to make this country strong. The only entity that started the division was the Democratic Party. It wasn’t Trump. Maybe someday you will grow up too.
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lol.......You certainly grew older, as do we all. Now the wisdom part, it's more like stagnation. Selfishness, bitterness, and cynicism are not the same as wisdom. If you live long enough, true wisdom may find you.
 
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luthervol said:
So why are you so terrified of the un-redacted report being released to congress? Makes no sense.
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First, your post assumes I have a dog in the fight, that I must be a fervent Trump supporter because I tell the left how unhinged they've become by their hatred of the guy. Even if that were the case, why would I be "terrified" of a report which has concluded not only no conspiracy on the part of the president, but that NO ONE in the campaign conspired with Russian agents to affect the election?? And that the DOJ has concluded - even aside from the question of whether a sitting president can be prosecuted - that he did not obstruct the investigation?

If I were the Trumper you imagine me, I'd be pretty damned happy about that conclusion, wouldn't I? Why wouldn't you simply as an American, be happy about that?

Now I want to know how such a baseless investigation of such magnitude, occurred.
 
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Vol737 said:
The EC is wrong in your view? Then don't ever breathe another word about your defense of or love for the Constitution. Founding Fathers way smarter than this delusional comment.
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That's why they have amendments. The founding fathers were concerned about the unknown effects of westward expansion. It's no longer an unknown.
 
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Mick said:
Now we are getting at the core, they weren't. Hillary is guilty of using an unsecured device(s) but intent couldn't be established as nefarious, Trump is guilty of obstruction because his idiot son and son-in-law flew too close to the Kremlin connection of Manafort. Jussie is the worst of all though as far as injustice. IMO.
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Intent or lack of has not been the basis for security violations. It happened or it didn't. If it did, you were screwed.
 
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hog88 said:
That's what I'm saying, THEY DIDN'T STAY SECRET! No flipping way Barr can alter, hide, shade or do anything underhanded with the Muells report and it stay secret. There is more than 1 copy and it will be "leaked" if Barr pulls some shady crap.
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You have no clue what secrets are still secret. You only know about the secrets that have been leaked and exposed.
 
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Mick said:
Now we are getting at the core, they weren't. Hillary is guilty of using an unsecured device(s) but intent couldn't be established as nefarious, Trump is guilty of obstruction because his idiot son and son-in-law flew too close to the Kremlin connection of Manafort. Jussie is the worst of all though as far as injustice. IMO.
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Nefarious intent wasn't necessary to have broken the espionage law. In fact, it's been reported that FBI counsel Baker thought she should have been prosecuted.

Your example would not be obstruction but conspiracy, which Mueller found no one associated with the campaign was guilty of.
 
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nuclearjunky said:
Hillary used her unsecured server to hide her Clinton Foundation actions from Congress. That’s my theory, which is equal to your theory that Trumps idiot son in law flew to close to some ruskies. Both are pure speculation
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Really? So top secret info on her unsecured server that was “probably, maybe” hacked by multiple foreign entities was never about national security?
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I think you better just argue with yourself on this one.
 
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NCFisher said:
First, your post assumes I have a fervent dog in the fight, that I must be a fervent Trump supporter because I tell the left how unhinged they've become by their hatred of the guy. Even if that were the case, why would I be "terrified" of a report which has concluded not only no conspiracy on the part of the president, but that NO ONE in the campaign conspired with Russian agents to affect the election?? And that the DOJ has concluded - even aside from the question of whether a sitting president can be prosecuted - that he did not obstruct the investigation?

If I were the Trumper you imagine me, I'd be pretty damned happy about that conclusion, wouldn't I? Why wouldn't you simply as an American, be happy about that?

Now I want to know how such a baseless investigation of such magnitude, occurred.
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Our disdain for Trump is exceeded only by our contempt for so-called patriotic conservatives who blindly seem hell bent on protecting him.
 
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luthervol said:
That's why the un-redacted version should only be released to select members of congress.
They're already claiming that they will be given a LESS redacted version.
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Gotta love those who can foretell the future. They are almost as good as those who predict deja vu with hindsight.
 
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luthervol said:
lol.......You certainly grew older, as do we all. Now the wisdom part, it's more like stagnation. Selfishness, bitterness, and cynicism are not the same as wisdom. If you live long enough, true wisdom may find you.
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I’ve been active here for about a year, I read the posts every day. I participate here and there. But for you to accuse me of selfishness, bitterness and cynicism after all the ignorance you post on a daily basis is the epitome of narcissistic behavior. I have good news for you though, although not curable it is treatable with therapy and strong medication.
 
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NCFisher said:
Nefarious intent wasn't necessary to have broken the espionage law. In fact, it's been reported that FBI counsel Baker thought she should have been prosecuted.

Your example would not be obstruction but conspiracy, which Mueller found no one associated with the campaign was guilty of.
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Well I could have completed that example to end with :which compelled Trump to act to protect his family. I will be sure to clarify everything for you. Seems you can't help but be a stickler for meaningless details about my opinion. Oh and they didn't actually "fly".
 
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