The Atlanta Braves

[TBrown]

Chuck James and Buddy Carlyle lol

Jorge Campillo and his changeup

 

[zjcvols]

People forget about Jorge Sosa and Jaime Wright

 

[Florida Stanley]

Jorge Campillo and his changeup

lol he had that crazy 12 to 6 curve that he always put right over the dish

 

[Florida Stanley]

People forget about Jorge Sosa and Jaime Wright

Sosa had one pretty damn good year, if I recall

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Soroka tomorrow has been scratched from his start tonight in Triple A

 

[zjcvols]

Sosa had one pretty damn good year, if I recall

He did. 2005

Ole Bobby somehow got a division title in 2004 with Russ Ortiz, John Thomson, Jaret Wright, Mike Hampton, and Paul Byrd

 

[zjcvols]

Soroka tomorrow has been scratched from his start tonight in Triple A

 

[TBrown]

Sosa had one pretty damn good year, if I recall

He also popped a long dong too

 

[Kingston Vol]

 

[zjcvols]

Just glad I can bring back my Maple Maddux nickname

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

My rotation: Folty, Fried, Gausman, Julio, Soroka.

Touki in the bullpen with spot starts for rest. If we bring Newk back up put him in the bullpen also.

 

[LotteryPick]

Touki too good to be in the pen

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Touki too good to be in the pen

I agree. But we need help there. Plus, he's young and will be in the rotation next year imo.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Who is suppoused to start Friday or do we play I havent looked that far ahead

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Who is suppoused to start Friday or do we play I havent looked that far ahead

Touki

 

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Viz out for the year

 

[Notorious B.E.N]

Get Kimbrel, now.

 

[Kingston Vol]

$5M to a guy they knew had shoulder issues

Can’t spend money anywhere else

 

[AV_12]

Wow. Imagine paying him knowing he had issues

 

[zjcvols]

I have Tuesday/Wednesday/Saturday off now and have way too much time on my hands during Tuesday/Wednesday so I have been looking at 90’s Braves playoff games and 1999 NLCS Game 6 was WILD

 

[TBrown]

I am not against having a rotation of Julio, Gaus, Soroka, Touki and Newk and using Folty and Fried in the Hader role if you think they are capable of that.

 

[zjcvols]

Switch Folty and Gaus. I’d love to see Gaus in the pen with his fastball/Split combo

 

[Florida Stanley]

Sooooooo we gonna act like Mikie “Ace” Minor didn’t just throw 9 SHUTOUT innings???

 

[Wickman]

MakeBryseCloser.com

 

[05_never_again]

And it is not unique to the Braves.

There are far more bad bullpens than good ones.

Which is interesting given that more teams don’t let their starters go as long as they used to. Seems like the worst possible time for bullpens to **** the bed. Maybe there’s a correlation?

That's what's so ironic about it. Bullpens seem to be as bad as ever at the same time there's a huge premium, bigger than there ever has been, on having a great one.

It seemed like there was a period 4-8 years ago where most teams, even a lot of bad teams, had a collection of 2-3 bullpen arms that you basically had to assume you wouldn't get runs off of if the entered the game. That doesn't seem to be as common as it used to be. A lot of those guys have simply flamed out or gotten hurt. Almost none of these dudes, except outliers like Kimbrel and Chapman, last long. And ironically Kimbrel can't find a suitor.

I mean, just naming some guys offhand...
Andrew Miller is a shell of himself
Betances is hurt
Rosenthal got hurt/shell of himself
Venters got hurt/shell of himself
Knebel is hurt
Melancon had a run where he was good, now he sucks
Britton is now awful after a 2-3 year run
Glen Perkins awful after 2 year run

I hate to predict things like this, but I wonder if a guy like Josh Hader's run of dominance is nearly over. Hard thrower, max effort, wipeout stuff, now in his 3rd season.