Crompton Turnaround

[k-town_king]

I thought Jonathan was a great example of what a change in coaching can do for a kid. He was tough and did the best he could with what he had. Damn near beat AL which hasn't been done in forever. To make a thread simply to bash him should give you a good insight into the OP.

Since when is a statistical comparison bashing? and I what point did I actually say anything bad about JC?

Y'all keep trying to find new things to cry about.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Since when is a statistical comparison bashing? and I what point did I actually say anything bad about JC?

Y'all keep trying to find new things to cry about.

Your agenda is well known and generally despised and/or laughed at. As Behr said, this was simply a new way to start an "I Love JG" thread.....KTQ, you gots some splainin to do.

 

[k-town_king]

You are indicative of a problem that plagues our society. You think that if you believe something then it makes someone a liar... or immoral... or hateful... or prejudiced... or whatever when they disagree with you.

You haven't proven ANYTHING I've said "false". Not one thing. You've just ranted your disagreement or responded with things that DO NOT disprove my points.

That is categorically FALSE. Every QB is taught to approach the line then read alignments and keys. Even option QB's do that. You simply don't know what you're talking about but worse... you don't want to know any better.

His first two OC's weren't first timers. Not even close. Other than that... NO coach will limit a kid from doing things that help the team. If JG could do it... he would have been allowed to do it. It really is that simple... unless you are arguing they didn't want to be good.

Nope. That is false also. Both statements. If a QB can handle the line calls then only an abject idiot wouldn't do it. He has the perspective to do it. The ONLY reason you don't do it (when it has been your practice in the past to do it which it was with Jones)... is that the QB can't be trusted with it.

Nope. It is something I observed watching him play. I watched a highlight video earlier today. He simply doesn't throw to the middle under 15. Not one slant was on the highlight reel. No crossing routes where he hit receivers in stride underneath to burn LB's overplaying or being too aggressive vs the run. It is simply a fact and if you know the game... you should know it is a problem and why.

It is interesting though that you think the "professionals'" silence speaks... but then reject what they actually say when it doesn't fit your narrative. It doesn't take a "professional' to see what I'm telling you. You just have to watch the games... and be able to count.

And the question... is why if he were able. It would have made the offense MUCH better.

You are delusional. You really are... and "stats" prove nothing of the sort. Those "stats" are indicative of low risk play design and calling... not a "great" ability to read D's.


I gave you the reasoning. The "proof" is in the fact that the O was anemic... and they DIDN'T give more of it to JG. He was 14th in the SEC in pass attempts per game. If he were even close to as good as you think... they would have thrown more... unless you just think they were trying to lose.


Again, not once.... not one time... have you "proven" anything I've said wrong. You are just too much of a coward to consider that you might be wrong... or that being wrong and admitting that JG needs a lot of improvement wouldn't be the end of your world.

Someone earlier mentioned that JG needs a restraining order against you... they're probably right. Your cult-like delusional crush is pretty creepy.

They didn't throw more because they couldn't block and therefore the scheme was conservative. He also missed two games worth of attempts. That is why he was 14th in attempts.


The middle of the field stuff is another of your nebulous, made up narratives that can't be proven wrong or right.

Like I said I will give you your respect on that. Your troll game is on one million. Just exceptional.


Everything else you are wrong about like usual. So I won't call you a liar. Just ignorant. So . . .

NFL doesn't even have all the qbs call protections.

Who calls the protections, and why?

"On top of all of that, in some systems, the quarterback is also setting the protections.

Is asking him to manage the blocking scheme putting too much on his plate?

Some teams think so, leaving those decisions mostly to the center and giving the quarterback power to make a simple switch. Other teams want their quarterback to control everything, and ask him to assess what needs to happen up front, not just downfield."

Football 101: Breaking Down Pass-Protection Fundamentals

"The center will often give a line call of which side of the defense is the strength . . .A combo block is called before the snap, usually by the center, as he is the person most often angling to combo block or shifting to pick up the guard's man/zone in the event a guard-tackle combo is called. "



As Line’s Choreographer, Center Holds Key to Success


"Those questions and many others race through the mind of a center, who plays the most cerebral offensive line position. He is the choreographer of the line, giving verbal and nonverbal commands that determine his team’s blocking schemes."






College where almost no qb calls protections.

Why star college QBs are struggling in the pros
Why star college QBs are struggling in the pros

"With college offenses moving at breakneck speed, a quarterback isn’t spending much time, if any, making pre-snap adjustments based on what the defense is showing, and he is probably taking less than 2.5 seconds after the ball is snapped to either throw it, hand it off, or tuck it and run himself. At the end of every play, as the referee spots the ball, college quarterbacks look to the sideline, where the play is signaled in either by a big sign held up or a staff member making various arm motions. And then it’s go time. "

“That’s the biggest thing that the pro guys are frustrated with, is that the college quarterback, for the most part, is managed from the sideline,” Dilfer said. “They are making very few dynamic decisions at the line of scrimmage or after the ball is snapped. Dynamic decision-making before the ball is snapped and after the ball is snapped is what separates the best pro quarterbacks from everybody else.

3) Dynamic decision making
▪ NFL quarterbacks receive longer play calls, read defenses, make pre-snap protection adjustments and are more deliberate with throws after the snap

▪ College plays are signaled in via signs or hand motions, the ball is snapped quickly and throws are made quickly, too

Significance: College quarterbacks must adjust to making more dynamic decisions once they reach the pros – easier said than done




So maybe not a liar. Just ignorant about the quarterback's role in protection.

 

[sjt18]

They didn't throw more because they couldn't block and therefore the scheme was conservative. He also missed two games worth of attempts. That is why he was 14th in attempts.


The middle of the field stuff is another of your nebulous, made up narratives that can't be proven wrong or right.

That's false. It is one of the most easily proven or disproven things I could say. All you have to do is go on youtube, watch the games, and count the number of completions he had in the short middle and slants. That's an objective claim... that you can prove or disprove by simply counting. Which is why you will avoid it like the plague.

Like I said I will give you your respect on that. Your troll game is on one million. Just exceptional.

Yeah... I've been "trolling" for 13 years. You can't be that stupid, can you?

So maybe not a liar. Just ignorant about the quarterback's role in protection.

Dude. If I were inclined to go find quotes out of context to counter this ignorance... I could. You don't know the game. That's obvious. JG doesn't run a high speed O and never has for UT. So that dog won't hunt. And YES. Every team asks QB's who are capable to make the reads and even change plays. The quotes you gave are specifically about the hurry up type O's.

There was a time when the C or OG made most of the OL calls in CFB. That was a while back. Few do it now.

There's enough going on in the NFL and enough time to get everyone in sync that you can ask an OL to do it while the QB checks the rest of the D. JG isn't in the NFL.

 

[GAVol]

Nobody but nobody does the multiquote like @sjt18 . Blows my mind every time. I'm just too impatient lol.

 

[sjt18]

Can't remember off the top of my head if this was Chaney or Jones' first OC but fairly recently... UT's O was designed to give the QB a set of 4 or 5 plays that he chose from when he got to the line of scrimmage and read the alignment.