Why not make the refs take questions after games

[vanillagorilla]

No one hesitates to throw a camera or microphone in the face of these kids after the game why not do the same for the refs. Why are they off limits? How did you miss the double dribble, why did you make a call When your 40ft away from the play, how much does the KY athletic department pay you?? I would like to see some accountability, or at least hear some of the reasons behind these calls/no calls.

 

[livefaith]

I actually would too. The foul at the end was legit. The DD was horrible. Overall I thot it was called great. Mentioned it at half and end how much zebras let the game flow be played.

But here and in FB it would be nice to get a "here's what we saw" or "here's what we missed" after games. Prob opens up a big can of worms. But, man refs have so much influence over games and their flow.

 

[VOL608]

I agree and disagree. Refs get graded out around 90-95% and whatever remains gets questioned by fans and media. For the most part, they get things right. However, when they get something wrong, you always hear about it, especially in the social media age when everything is magnified and there’s a million different angles. They are considered professionals and should be treated as such. When coaches and players make mistakes throughout the course of the game in any sport, they have to face the media. It’s a shame that the NCAA, NFL, NBA, and MLB shields these officials from the public. It’s also a shame that there’s one pool reporter who gets only a couple minutes to ask the refs any questions, and most of the time, you don’t get the answer that you want because they don’t have any personal accountability. Out of the NCAA, MLB, NBA, and NFL, the NCAA is the worst when it comes to officials.

 

[vanillagorilla]

I actually would too. The foul at the end was legit. The DD was horrible. Overall I thot it was called great. Mentioned it at half and end how much zebras let the game flow be played.

But here and in FB it would be nice to get a "here's what we saw" or "here's what we missed" after games. Prob opens up a big can of worms. But, man refs have so much influence over games and their flow.

Agree. Plus they're getting paid to call games. It would be different if they were volunteering their time but they're not.

 

[VolfromBirth65]

No one hesitates to throw a camera or microphone in the face of these kids after the game why not do the same for the refs. Why are they off limits? How did you miss the double dribble, why did you make a call When your 40ft away from the play, how much does the KY athletic department pay you?? I would like to see some accountability, or at least hear some of the reasons behind these calls/no calls.

Had the TV announcers not mentioned the double dribble, 99% of us would not know it was a double dribble. It happens all the time, referees should be the announcers, even they didn't call it when it happened.

 

[BigBadVol]

But then you have an Anthony Jordan and everything gets fuzzy.

 

[calban]

They'd just give the old Jim Boeheim response. GFY.

 

[sechamp2012]

I see guys get a rebound the ball slips out of their hand and they bounce it or dribble it back up to their hands one or two bounces. Then everybody starts up court and the rebounder start dribbling up court. I'm thinking back when I played that was double dribble same thing I thought last night but then I said to one of my friends with this Euro step etc... I guess playground rules have trumped the more stringent original rules.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Refs could be in danger if they had to stick around for a press conference. After football games they get a police escort away from Neyland Stadium.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to have a teleconference a day later though. But they're independent contractors rather than employees and are on their way to a different game the next day. I think that refs need to be conference employees. But... what do they do in the off season?

 

[CAVPUT]

I actually would too. The foul at the end was legit. The DD was horrible. Overall I thot it was called great. Mentioned it at half and end how much zebras let the game flow be played.

But here and in FB it would be nice to get a "here's what we saw" or "here's what we missed" after games. Prob opens up a big can of worms. But, man refs have so much influence over games and their flow.

This.

 

[CAVPUT]

I see guys get a rebound the ball slips out of their hand and they bounce it or dribble it back up to their hands one or two bounces. Then everybody starts up court and the rebounder start dribbling up court. I'm thinking back when I played that was double dribble same thing I thought last night but then I said to one of my friends with this Euro step etc... I guess playground rules have trumped the more stringent original rules.

Maybe the "loss of control" resets the play and there's no "double dribble"? Interpretation call?

 

[Jackjon90]

No one hesitates to throw a camera or microphone in the face of these kids after the game why not do the same for the refs. Why are they off limits? How did you miss the double dribble, why did you make a call When your 40ft away from the play, how much does the KY athletic department pay you?? I would like to see some accountability, or at least hear some of the reasons behind these calls/no calls.

Totally agree. I’ve said this for years. It’s disgusting that everyone else is publicly held accountable except for officials. It’s a joke.

 

[volmainia2]

Had the TV announcers not mentioned the double dribble, 99% of us would not know it was a double dribble. It happens all the time, referees should be the announcers, even they didn't call it when it happened.

when it happened i said that is a double dribble, and i said well there is another No call just like the guards arm barring the defendant

 

[CAVPUT]

Totally agree. I’ve said this for years. It’s disgusting that everyone else is publicly held accountable except for officials. It’s a joke.

So you want to see them sitting at a table with mics and cameras on them to answer questions about why they did or did not make a certain call? Yeah...I can see that being super successful. Might as well go with street ball rules. Players call their own fouls and only if there's blood. Officials have governing bodies that evaluate them and their performances. Leagues as well. No need to interrogate them on a national stage.

 

[Jackjon90]

So you want to see them sitting at a table with mics and cameras on them to answer questions about why they did or did not make a certain call? Yeah...I can see that being super successful. Might as well go with street ball rules. Players call their own fouls and only if there's blood. Officials have governing bodies that evaluate them and their performances. Leagues as well. No need to interrogate them on a national stage.

Totally disagree. Coaches are made to go to postgame press conferences. Refs should be held to same accountability. Why do they get a free pass from the media when no one else does?

 

[CAVPUT]

Totally disagree. Coaches are made to go to postgame press conferences. Refs should be held to same accountability. Why do they get a free pass from the media when no one else does?

They are held accountable...just not to biased reporters and fans. And, IMO, that's as it should be. The league and officials offices evaluate without bias. Reporters and fans usually have an allegiance to a school one way or the other. They'll be interested in throwing as much shade on an official as possible....well...half the room will anyway. You know how that scene would play out. It serves no purpose other than to have refs swallow their whistles and avoid making tough calls. A public, antagonistic lynching of refs during a post game grilling from biased media after controversial calls...yeah, that's gonna solve all the problems with officiating. They sure as hell aren't paid enough to deal with that chit game after game, year after year.

 

[VolGee4]

So you want to see them sitting at a table with mics and cameras on them to answer questions about why they did or did not make a certain call? Yeah...I can see that being super successful. Might as well go with street ball rules. Players call their own fouls and only if there's blood. Officials have governing bodies that evaluate them and their performances. Leagues as well. No need to interrogate them on a national stage.

I am not familiar with the procedure or the rules, but I am pretty sure MLB makes their crew chief available to a pool reporter or reporters after games. I don’t know if they are required to speak or not.

I do think that there has to be something to hold them accountable. Saying the leagues evaluate them is not enough. The leagues protect them. The SEC head of football officials is in Birmingham, and the previous head of basketball officials resided in Lexington. They don’t even pretend to hide it.

It’s also been a complaint of mine for years. This isn’t anything new.

 

[savannahfan]

I actually would too. The foul at the end was legit. The DD was horrible. Overall I thot it was called great. Mentioned it at half and end how much zebras let the game flow be played.

But here and in FB it would be nice to get a "here's what we saw" or "here's what we missed" after games. Prob opens up a big can of worms. But, man refs have so much influence over games and their flow.

The only thing that bothers me about "the call", look at the arm of the ref. Before the shot, his arm and hand were on the way up (already above his sholder). This makes me think he had made his mind up before the foul to make a call if one even came close.

How many times have we seen this type of play and a much worst foul happen on a shot or under the basket on a try for a "put back" and seen the refs let them play?? Just not much of a foul happened to make a call. Bye the way, if the push really was a serious foul, then the guy was pushed away from the basket, should his shot then been short. It was long, how long would it have been had there been no contact?

To answer your question as directly as I can. They would say "that is the way I saw it".......

 

[savannahfan]

I see guys get a rebound the ball slips out of their hand and they bounce it or dribble it back up to their hands one or two bounces. Then everybody starts up court and the rebounder start dribbling up court. I'm thinking back when I played that was double dribble same thing I thought last night but then I said to one of my friends with this Euro step etc... I guess playground rules have trumped the more stringent original rules.

How bout "walking"?? I laugh at the "bigs" in perticular dancing up and down, change anchor foot while twirling around and then jumping the unbelivable height of 6-12 inches to jam the ball down... Hardly ever get called. And forget the call in the lane, have seen it called less than half doz. time in this tourney.

 

[savannahfan]

Refs could be in danger if they had to stick around for a press conference. After football games they get a police escort away from Neyland Stadium.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to have a teleconference a day later though. But they're independent contractors rather than employees and are on their way to a different game the next day. I think that refs need to be conference employees. But... what do they do in the off season?

Learn the rules and how to call a game by study and watching tape. Maybe have a virtual reality mcahine with situations the make calls or not make calls and grade them.. There is lots they could do in the off season to become better at their jobs.

 

[savannahfan]

So you want to see them sitting at a table with mics and cameras on them to answer questions about why they did or did not make a certain call? Yeah...I can see that being super successful. Might as well go with street ball rules. Players call their own fouls and only if there's blood. Officials have governing bodies that evaluate them and their performances. Leagues as well. No need to interrogate them on a national stage.

Why not??? They preform ao a national stage. AND as to the "rules of the game" for some time now they have digressed to street ball.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

They are held accountable...just not to biased reporters and fans. And, IMO, that's as it should be. The league and officials offices evaluate without bias. Reporters and fans usually have an allegiance to a school one way or the other.

So, I am to believe that all people with Bama ties in the League office and Football Officials office evaluate Bama football games without bias? At a minimum, there's already a perception bias.....

 

[tn4elvis]

when it happened i said that is a double dribble, and i said well there is another No call just like the guards arm barring the defendant

Michigan St got away with the arm bar dribbling all game long.

 

[volmainia2]

Maybe the "loss of control" resets the play and there's no "double dribble"? Interpretation call?

lol not

 

[beachvol23]

It was an easy DD call!!! All the nonsense people are spewing about it’s “rare” or whatever is disingenuous! All refs should catch that and call it % of the time! No excuses unless rigged! We all saw it three weeks in a row! The corruption is disgusting!