A little humor to help with the pain we’re feeling (meme)

[Stoked]

The loss hurts but at least he owns the Kitties.

 

[Stoked]

 

[VolFreakJosh]

Curious to see how Cal would have done with our roster this year without any McDonald’s All Americans?

 

[PandamoniumReigns]

Curious to see how Cal would have done with our roster this year without any McDonald’s All Americans?

He would have been middle of the pack at best. He cant develop players. Thats why he relies on one and done talent.
He is not a good Xs and Os coach either.

 

[zjcvols]

He would have been middle of the pack at best. He cant develop players. Thats why he relies on one and done talent.
He is not a good Xs and Os coach either.

Yet still is one of the 3 most successful coaches this decade. Must be doing something right...oh wait recruiting, which is half the job of a college coach.

 

[PandamoniumReigns]

Yet still is one of the 3 most successful coaches this decade. Must be doing something right...oh wait recruiting, which is half the job of a college coach.

I never said he wasnt successful. He just relies on pure talent (his recruiting) and has no evidence that he can develop a player.

No reason for you to bash every post today Z. Im pi$$ed about the loss too.

 

[zjcvols]

I never said he wasnt successful. He just relies on pure talent (his recruiting) and has no evidence that he can develop a player.

No reason for you to bash every post today Z. Im pi$$ed about the loss too.

PJ Washington? Terrance Jones? Willie Cauley-Stein? Doron Lamb? I don’t think Cal is genius basketball mind but this silly narrative he doesn’t coach or isn’t a good coach has always been absurd.

 

[jackaro]

He would have been middle of the pack at best. He cant develop players. Thats why he relies on one and done talent.
He is not a good Xs and Os coach either.

I would say that getting a bunch of big ego, one and doners to play outstanding team defense by tournament time every year counts as developing players. He seems to do that every year. I would also say that "he relies on talent" just means that he is better at recruiting than anyone else. I do not know of a coach that would voluntarily recruit lesser talent if he had the option of getting the top talent.

 

[Stoked]

I would say that getting a bunch of big ego, one and doners to play outstanding team defense by tournament time every year counts as developing players. He seems to do that every year. I would also say that "he relies on talent" just means that he is better at recruiting than anyone else. I do not know of a coach that would voluntarily recruit lesser talent if he had the option of getting the top talent.

I used to overlook this fact. He really can get his players to buy in at the right time each year. Still I think he needs one in a generation type of player like Davis to win it all. He's yet to prove otherwise.

 

[JettVol]

I would say that getting a bunch of big ego, one and doners to play outstanding team defense by tournament time every year counts as developing players. He seems to do that every year. I would also say that "he relies on talent" just means that he is better at recruiting than anyone else. I do not know of a coach that would voluntarily recruit lesser talent if he had the option of getting the top talent.

Agreed. Also more impressive to take Grant Williams a high school player outside of the top 1000 players and get him to back to back SEC player of the year.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

PJ Washington? Terrance Jones? Willie Cauley-Stein? Doron Lamb? I don’t think Cal is genius basketball mind but this silly narrative he doesn’t coach or isn’t a good coach has always been absurd.

Marcus Camby, Lou Roe, Robert Dozier, Chris Douglas Roberts, Rodney Carney, Joey Dorsey, Antonio Andersen. He had some very good teams at Memphis and UMass by taking these 3-4 year players.

Cal is not a great X's and O's tactician but his teams usually buy in defensively. Cal recruits guys to his system and they run that system and usually dictate tempo pretty well. I've always thought Cal needed to recruit more shooters (he won his natty when he had great shooters).

 

[cncchris33]

PJ Washington? Terrance Jones? Willie Cauley-Stein? Doron Lamb? I don’t think Cal is genius basketball mind but this silly narrative he doesn’t coach or isn’t a good coach has always been absurd.

While I agree that the idea Cal can't coach is way overblown and overplayed, the players you just named aren't proof that he can develop. 3 of those guys were 5* players who were plug and play guys, and the 4th was a 7-foot kid with wing skills who was top-50. Let's just say he had a lot to work with in WCS, and the rest of those guys were stars with or without Cal.

 

[VolGee4]

It’s no secret that Cal had help recruiting when he got on a roll. Now, whether you want to say he cheated or he was just doing what others were doing, that’s up to you.

T.J. Gassnola, the Adidas rep who plead guilty and also testified at this last trial, is a UMass guy and maybe even played with Derek Kellog. He was at Memphis practices all the time. He has admitted to paying Ayton’s family. You can come to whatever conclusion you want.

Cal also stashed his first really good class at Memphis at Laurenburg Prep. There are stories how those guys ended up qualifying academically. This stuff has been stated publicly by the person who was the beat writer for Memphis and was following the team on a daily basis. It’s no secret.

Cal is good getting his young guys to play hard. But he’s a manipulator and spins things his way. Not the best floor coach. Whatever. No one is going to stop him at UK so it doesn’t really matter. At this point, he probably can recruit relatively clean because of his history of getting guys drafted.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

It’s no secret that Cal had help recruiting when he got on a roll. Now, whether you want to say he cheated or he was just doing what others were doing, that’s up to you.

T.J. Gassnola, the Adidas rep who plead guilty and also testified at this last trial, is a UMass guy and maybe even played with Derek Kellog. He was at Memphis practices all the time. He has admitted to paying Ayton’s family. You can come to whatever conclusion you want.

Cal also stashed his first really good class at Memphis at Laurenburg Prep. There are stories how those guys ended up qualifying academically. This stuff has been stated publicly by the person who was the beat writer for Memphis and was following the team on a daily basis. It’s no secret.

Cal is good getting his young guys to play hard. But he’s a manipulator and spins things his way. Not the best floor coach. Whatever. No one is going to stop him at UK so it doesn’t really matter. At this point, he probably can recruit relatively clean because of his history of getting guys drafted.

Very well said. Cal cheated like crazy at Memphis but he also did what others were doing. If Cal handled the Jeremy Hunt case today like he did back then, he would be fired in a heartbeat.

Around this same time, Bruce Pearl was recruiting over his weight class and he was beating out some of the big boys (Memphis included) for some players.

I'm not as hard on guys like Will Wade for doing what he is doing at LSU since his closest three geographic SEC rivals (Avery, Howland, Bruce) are all cheating plus the closest ranked team to LSU (Kelvin Sampson) are all cheating.

 

[PandamoniumReigns]

Tyronn Lue has a great winning percentage in the NBA. Guess that proves hes a great coach.

Cal is a good coach, but he is not a great coach or developer. He's merely a good recruiter

 

[cardvolfan]

It’s no secret that Cal had help recruiting when he got on a roll. Now, whether you want to say he cheated or he was just doing what others were doing, that’s up to you.

T.J. Gassnola, the Adidas rep who plead guilty and also testified at this last trial, is a UMass guy and maybe even played with Derek Kellog. He was at Memphis practices all the time. He has admitted to paying Ayton’s family. You can come to whatever conclusion you want.

Cal also stashed his first really good class at Memphis at Laurenburg Prep. There are stories how those guys ended up qualifying academically. This stuff has been stated publicly by the person who was the beat writer for Memphis and was following the team on a daily basis. It’s no secret.

Cal is good getting his young guys to play hard. But he’s a manipulator and spins things his way. Not the best floor coach. Whatever. No one is going to stop him at UK so it doesn’t really matter. At this point, he probably can recruit relatively clean because of his history of getting guys drafted.

I agree with what you said 100%.