Fire Pete Carroll!!!

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This man just lost to a team that is probably worse than UCLA with a team more talented than UT... even when benefitting from the weak Pac10 competition.

The man should be fired right away.

BTW: This is a UT thread... not an NCAA thread.
 
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sjt18 said:
This man just lost to a team that is probably worse than UCLA with a team more talented than UT... even when benefitting from the weak Pac10 competition.

The man should be fired right away.

BTW: This is a UT thread... not an NCAA thread.
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Oregon State is light years better than UCLA Technical Community College.
 
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He also lost to stanford last year. By God he is Satan returned.

I'd take him over Fulmer anyday tho.
 
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There does seem to be a problem of late with USC. This is 3 years in a row that they have lost to a crappy team that they should have drilled.

Now by no means does that excuse the lack of ... well pretty much every aspect of ineptness UT has shown this year.
 
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Yeah, going 11-1 every season is comparable to Foolmer's miserable record over the past 7 seasons.

Nice try, Hambone, but this is a ridiculous analogy.

This is considered a monumental upset for USC. The sad thing is that the UCLA loss was just more of the same for the Vols. Remember the days when it was BIG news every time UT lost a game, no matter who it played?
 
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EZE said:
Yeah, going 11-1 every season is comparable to Foolmer's miserable record over the past 7 seasons.

Nice try, Hambone, but this is a ridiculous analogy.

This is considered a monumental upset for USC. The sad thing is that the UCLA loss was just more of the same for the Vols. Remember the days when it was BIG news every time UT lost a game, no matter who it played?
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Not true. It was considered by most a huge upset. Not as big as last night but it was a big upset. You can nail Fulmer on a lot of things but UT usually beats the crappy teams. That surprised even most Fulmer haters.
 
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BTW, I'm in no way saying that Fulmer shouldn't be dealt with and fired after the results of the season are in. I am saying that the reasoning or lack thereof that the first two games of this season are necessarily the tipping point doesn't hold water. Better teams lose to bad teams. That's college football. Teams shoot themselves in the foot. That's also college football.

I have consistently said that Fulmer should have to improve year over year. That's a high hill to climb now but all the non-sense going on right now is doing nothing but hurting the program.
 
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it's still a ridiculous comparison.......USC and Pete Caroll will still be in the Rose bowl come January. and no one will still care where we wound up.
 
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sjt18 said:
BTW, I'm in no way saying that Fulmer shouldn't be dealt with and fired after the results of the season are in. I am saying that the reasoning or lack thereof that the first two games of this season are necessarily the tipping point doesn't hold water. Better teams lose to bad teams. That's college football. Teams shoot themselves in the foot. That's also college football.

I have consistently said that Fulmer should have to improve year over year. That's a high hill to climb now but all the non-sense going on right now is doing nothing but hurting the program.
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That would be correct; if those games were out of the norm these days.
 
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sjt18 said:
BTW, I'm in no way saying that Fulmer shouldn't be dealt with and fired after the results of the season are in. I am saying that the reasoning or lack thereof that the first two games of this season are necessarily the tipping point doesn't hold water. Better teams lose to bad teams. That's college football. Teams shoot themselves in the foot. That's also college football.
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It's not just about the first 2-3 games of this season. There is a trend that has gone on since 1998.
 
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sjt18 said:
BTW, I'm in no way saying that Fulmer shouldn't be dealt with and fired after the results of the season are in. I am saying that the reasoning or lack thereof that the first two games of this season are necessarily the tipping point doesn't hold water. Better teams lose to bad teams. That's college football. Teams shoot themselves in the foot. That's also college football.

I have consistently said that Fulmer should have to improve year over year. That's a high hill to climb now but all the non-sense going on right now is doing nothing but hurting the program.
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How does asking for a team to show improvement hurt a team? How does showing disapproval of a coaching staff hurt a program? It does not. If your talking about recruits then I think you're off base as well. Fans at every stadium boo and write on message boards. UT is not alone. Do I boo? No, but I will not tell others they cant. And if you want to use a coach to defend CPF you better get another one. PC has a record that is not touchable. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
 
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I got a GREAT idea!!...Why don't we work out a TRADE!...We'll take Pete and they can have Fulmer!...YES!
 
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EZE said:
Yeah, going 11-1 every season is comparable to Foolmer's miserable record over the past 7 seasons.
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I would virtually guarantee that Fulmer and pretty much all SEC coaches would have dominated the Pac10 to about the same degree as Carroll has with USC's talent.

Nice try, Hambone, but this is a ridiculous analogy.
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Not demonstrated by anything you posted.

This is considered a monumental upset for USC.
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.... Yeah, except for the fact that Carroll did the same thing at Stanford last year and in Corvalis two years ago.
The sad thing is that the UCLA loss was just more of the same for the Vols.
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Yep. EXACTLY like the drubbing of UGA last year.
Remember the days when it was BIG news every time UT lost a game, no matter who it played?
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Actually, no. That's the fantasy you've cultivated to help justify your position.

The only time UT came close was in the 90's... under Fulmer. It wasn't true prior to that since Neyland... who more than likely pre-dates both of us.

So now you want the guy fired because he's not meeting the expectations that his accomplishments allowed you to have, right?

Again, I'm not saying he shouldn't be evaluated and fired... I AM saying that the evaluation should be done in proper perspective.
 
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jakez4ut said:
it's still a ridiculous comparison.......USC and Pete Caroll will still be in the Rose bowl come January. and no one will still care where we wound up.
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Pete Carroll and USC will still play the weak sisters in the Pac10... so you are probably right.
 
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sjt18 said:
I would virtually guarantee that Fulmer and pretty much all SEC coaches would have dominated the Pac10 to about the same degree as Carroll has with USC's talent.

Not demonstrated by anything you posted.

.... Yeah, except for the fact that Carroll did the same thing at Stanford last year and in Corvalis two years ago. Yep. EXACTLY like the drubbing of UGA last year. Actually, no. That's the fantasy you've cultivated to help justify your position.

The only time UT came close was in the 90's... under Fulmer. It wasn't true prior to that since Neyland... who more than likely pre-dates both of us.

So now you want the guy fired because he's not meeting the expectations that his accomplishments allowed you to have, right?

Again, I'm not saying he shouldn't be evaluated and fired... I AM saying that the evaluation should be done in proper perspective.
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I have high expectations no matter who is coaching. If CPF or any other coach doesnt perform on a high level then I have an issue. I am not calling for him to be gone yet. But so far what we have seen this year is totally unacceptable. There is no arguing that.
 
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sjt18 said:
Pete Carroll and USC will still play the weak sisters in the Pac10... so you are probably right.
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if you're one that believes that USC wouldn't be a top dog in any other conf., including the SEC, you are as dellusional as the people you accuse of it as well.

i'm not going to say the Pac 10 is as strong as some other conf., but there's zero doubt in my mind that USC would be competing at conf. championship levels in any conf. they palyed in.
 
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sjt18 said:
This season? This season is less than a month old.

Last year? Year before? No, not the norm.
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The "norm" this season is to lose. 1-2 means it is normal for us to not win games.

Last year? When we lost to Cal, UF, Bama and LSU?

06? When we lost to UF, LSU, Ark and Penn State?

Your argument is still holding about as much water as a sieve.
 
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jakez4ut said:
if you're one that believes that USC wouldn't be a top dog in any other conf., including the SEC, you are as dellusional as the people you accuse of it as well.

i'm not going to say the Pac 10 is as strong as some other conf., but there's zero doubt in my mind that USC would be competing at conf. championship levels in any conf. they palyed in.
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You are correct. They have as much if not more talent than any team in the nation. In fact I would say more talent than any team this year. PC knows they dropped a big one here and that this was their year to win another title. Thier defensive play last night was terrible. They also rarely went down field and that surprised me a lot.
 
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