Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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#121,879
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LSU has tons of talent. If you follow college basketball you know there previous coach could recruit really well, just couldn’t manage the team. Wade can obviously recruit, too. (Hence being in the FBI report). Waters back up has more upside and a higher ranking than Waters out of high school. If he is on almost any other team in the country he is a starter. Our PG was clearly really sick so again, it comes back to Turner and Bowden.

We did a great job on the boards. Out-rebounded them and matched them in O-Rebounds. We also held them to 38% overall and 32% from 3.
 
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volinbama256 said:
probably not, but the lack of respect we got going from a 1 to 5 after losing to a 5 away, doesn't make me think anyone will be doing us any favors.
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Like Zaga falling to 4 after losing to us? And then 8 after losing to Unc? Or UK falling from 2 to 10 after losing to Duke? Or UM falling 2 to 5 even tho it was their 5 loss and 2 teams in front of them had more losses
 
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T Dog said:
Every single game i have read through this year has been bad calls by the refs. Someone needs to do a collage of the fouls on us and the fouls on them that was BS.
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There will be plenty of bs fouls called on the other team. We don’t notice them cause of bias. Just like other teams think the refs are terrible too
 
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Ain’t even mad. Grant came alive late. Bone was clearly not 100%. Road game against a good team. Whether we are a 1-2-3-or 4 seed, we still have to win 6 games on neutral courts to win NT (which, i’m In the let’s get to the final four and anything else is gravy camp personally).

Still love this team. We have had a string of games where only one or 2 of our main players have played well at the same time. If we get back to 3-4 of our main players playing at same time, we’ll be just fine
 
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chargervol said:
Oh man, I hate to hear that.
And don't ever feel that way. 2 years ago, like most guys, my wife thought I was the world's biggest baby if I had a bad cold haha.
It's not toughness, I just don't have any options.

Is there nothing they can do to prevent them? Anything I can do to help?
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I'm supposed to drink 2 of the 2 liter bottles of water daily! Which is pretty much impossible. My mom , and both sisters have them kind of a family curse I guess.
I sweat more than most and just can't replace fluids quickly enough. When I was younger I tried to make it on one of the sattelite tennis tours but continually cramped and had to quit.
But it's nothing compared to your trials and tribulations..
You are the MAN!!
 
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I'm a little upset. I'm mostly over it because I know that in the long run none of this really matters; I know it's just a game. But I kinda want to vent a little bit.

Look, LSU deserved to win and we didn't. I'm fine with you disagreeing with that premise but I feel like, with their two best players offering a total of 1 point, a team that has as much talent as Tennessee (as in, more talent than LSU) needs to seize the moment and they didn't do it. Yes, there were bad/missed calls. There may have even been more on us than on them. BUT, you have GOT to seize opportunity when it's staring you in the face.

I'm not depressed or anything about this game or the state of Tennessee sports (I mean I am but not like CLINICALLY depressed), but I just feel like I see this happen way too much across all sports at UT. Now, this is probably me projecting -- I'm noticing patterns, which we're hardwired to do as human beings, and I could be making inferences that are WILDLY off base, but what it FEELS like is every once in a while we'll have all of the ingredients to do something super special and then find a way to screw it up because we get uptight. The 2012, 2015, and 2016 football teams come immediately to mind. Talent out the wazoo but a bunch of basketcases (not all of them, and this isn't a personal criticism because I'm a basketcase too).

And I *think* -- this is just a theory -- that a lot of it might be due not to people being up their own buttholes and thinking they're better than they are, but because they feel so much pressure to BE TENNESSEE. We've been so bad at everything for so long (this basketball team is good and so was last year's and we've had some moments in football that brought me immense joy, so I don't mean we've been so bad at everything literally) that there MUST be immense pressure to deliver, and the pressure I feel like sometimes gets to the team in various sports across various years. I only say this because it's an issue that I have at times -- to live up to people's standards -- and it makes me wonder if it works the same with with athletes and coaches.

I ADORE Rick Barnes, but my nightmare scenario is that he can't handle players who believe they're really good and these players believed they were really good (BECAUSE THEY ARE) but then they got smacked in the mouth by Kentucky and they're going "uh oh here we go again." It's not so much about Barnes, or Butch, or Dooley, or Cuonzo, or Bruce, or Pruitt, or Holly. It's that it seems like this is happening all the time.

Again, none of this matters in the long run. Just thinking out loud. Please ignore and report me.
 
#121,890
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The SEC protects their marquee programs. Even the national media has even floated the idea that could Tennessee starting to become the dominant program in the SEC? The SEC laughs and says we'll see about that. They know that TN is the main threat to KY and having beaten then twice, once on their court last year. They'll not stand for it. Anyone expecting the Vols to beat KY in Knoxville next weekend is setting themselves up for disappointment. They'll make sure KY wins in convincing fashion. It's the same way with Alabama in football. It's extremely corrupt and has been for a while. You can't win consistently when your league office doesn't want you to. Enjoy what you get but don't expect any more.
 
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Smokey123 said:
Will Wade screams and acts like a child all game and gets the refs to explain every call to him. Barnes tries to talk to head official after the game and a ref grabs him and stops him...
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I missed the last 10 minutes of second half and on. But I lost any respect I had for Wade. Cried at every call.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
The SEC protects their marquee programs. Even the national media has even floated the idea that could Tennessee starting to become the dominant program in the SEC? The SEC laughs and says we'll see about that. They know that TN is the main threat to KY and having beaten then twice, once on their court last year. They'll not stand for it. Anyone expecting the Vols to beat KY in Knoxville next weekend is setting themselves up for disappointment. They'll make sure KY wins in convincing fashion. It's the same way with Alabama in football. It's extremely corrupt and has been for a while. You can't win consistently when your league office doesn't want you to. Enjoy what you get but don't expect any more.
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They *may* protect top teams but I sincerely don't think it's any kind of conspiracy. I think it's unintentional. People get starry-eyed for big programs, and officials are also people.

But even if it WERE a conspiracy, we are good enough as a team to have won that game against LSU. I also know I say "we" like I'm on the team and everyone on that team, from coaches on down, understand more about basketball specifically and sports generally than I ever will. But still...we could have won that game and we didn't. I thought there were some bad calls. Crap happens and life isn't fair. You have to do it for yourself some times and the team didn't do it for themselves today.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
The SEC protects their marquee programs. Even the national media has even floated the idea that could Tennessee starting to become the dominant program in the SEC? The SEC laughs and says we'll see about that. They know that TN is the main threat to KY and having beaten then twice, once on their court last year. They'll not stand for it. Anyone expecting the Vols to beat KY in Knoxville next weekend is setting themselves up for disappointment. They'll make sure KY wins in convincing fashion. It's the same way with Alabama in football. It's extremely corrupt and has been for a while. You can't win consistently when your league office doesn't want you to. Enjoy what you get but don't expect any more.
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I just don’t understand why AD’s and coaches call them out. It’s like it’s a fraternity to let this crap happen. Barnes is a good man, but stuff they have had to deal with is infuriating.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I missed the last 10 minutes of second half and on. But I lost any respect I had for Wade. Cried at every call.
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I think he was putting on a show and I think it worked. It helped fire up the home crowd and I felt like Tennessee got rattled and did dumb things instead of playing the kind of basketball every single person in America knows they're capable of playing.

A huge amount of sports is mental. I think Wade was just playing the game.
 
#121,896
#121,896
UT can go as far as they want to go... just not playing the way they have. People can always find excuses, but the reality is, the BasketVols haven't been playing well for weeks. They know their shortcomings and they can fix them, but so far, they haven't. They can still win the SECT and make a deep run in the NCAAT. But they've made their path a lot tougher by playing so poorly.
 
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LA Vol said:
UT can go as far as they want to go... just not playing the way they have. People can always find excuses, but the reality is, the BasketVols haven't been playing well for weeks. They know their shortcomings and they can fix them, but so far, they haven't. They can still win the SECT and make a deep run in the NCAAT. But they've made their path a lot tougher by playing so poorly.
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Yep. No hot takes here, but to say we must play better to accomplish any of the things this team set out to do is an understatement.

And we must handle " situational ball" better.
 
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I think this team is a perfect example of Barnes and why Texas got tired of him. He could have them playing well with some talent but at the end of the year when adversity hits he couldn't figure it out. This last month or show has shown me why Barnes only has 1 final four under his belt
 
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