The rock on campus...

#103
#103
when was the last rivalry game the students didnt pick up their full allotment?
 
#105
#105
andrewh said:
now THAT is a devoted athletic administration
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I think many of you would be surprised how much support he still has in the state. This is going to get much uglier before it's all done. I hate to see it but it is going to get really ugly. This kind of reminds me of the situation in Arkansas with Nolan richardson.
 
#106
#106
If the school is responsible for the repaint job (which it probably is), it is hypocritical and pathetic. The students should wage an ongoing war with the clowns in this administration. Can we set up a paint fund at the local Home Depot?

Plus, the argument sucks. Army was the class of NCAA football back in the 50s.... What does that mean now? Absolutely nothing. Same with Fulmers record in the 90s.
 
#108
#108
VolBeef88 said:
I think many of you would be surprised how much support he still has in the state. This is going to get much uglier before it's all done. I hate to see it but it is going to get really ugly. This kind of reminds me of the situation in Arkansas with Nolan richardson.
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Beef,
What would have to happen this year to make you say "enough is enough, it is time Phil bowed out"? I am curious what your limits would be.
 
#109
#109
VolBeef88 said:
I think many of you would be surprised how much support he still has in the state. This is going to get much uglier before it's all done. I hate to see it but it is going to get really ugly. This kind of reminds me of the situation in Arkansas with Nolan richardson.
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Agreed. Outside this board, which is obviously the extreme "fire Fulmer" crowd, I think there's a large percentage of UT fans out there that are somewhat indifferent to his status. The folks that you see wearing the orange sweatpants, orange shirt, and orange hats every day of the week, think he's there man. There's some fans in between but it'll take them 2 or 3 years of 5-7 years to start complaining.
 
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#110
raherndon said:
Agreed. Outside this board, which is obviously the extreme "fire Fulmer" crowd, I think there's a large percentage of UT fans than are somewhat indifferent to his status. The folks that you see wearing the orange sweatpants, orange shirt, and orange hats every day of the week, think he's there man. There's some fans in between but it'll take then2 or 3 years of 5-7 years to start complaining.
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The Incarcerated?
 
#111
#111
awebb7 said:
Beef,
What would have to happen this year to make you say "enough is enough, it is time Phil bowed out"? I am curious what your limits would be.
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The same they have been all along. After the 05 season I stated that CPF had earned the right to correct things. I still think that is the case. I stated and still stand by it that as long as we see improvement then he should be allowed to stay. Right now things are not looking good. The way we have played this year so far is unacceptable. But we shall see as the season continues. I am a VOL fan first and foremost. I like CPF but I love UT. So we shall see.
 
#112
#112
Fair enough. And if we drop the AU, UGA, 'Bama, and Vandy or UK games? Does he still get a chance to correct things?

Just picking your brain. There is still a lot of football left this season, and while I would love to see this team get it together and finish up with seven or eight wins; I can't help but feel like the wheels are quickly falling off. I don't like our chances.
 
#113
#113
raherndon said:
Agreed. Outside this board, which is obviously the extreme "fire Fulmer" crowd, I think there's a large percentage of UT fans out there that are somewhat indifferent to his status. The folks that you see wearing the orange sweatpants, orange shirt, and orange hats every day of the week, think he's there man. There's some fans in between but it'll take them 2 or 3 years of 5-7 years to start complaining.
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I wear orange quite often and I believe he needs to go. That stereotype is incorrect. Everyone I talk to is of the mind that its time for him to go. I can't believe my portion of the state is any different than any other.
 
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#115
raherndon said:
Agreed. Outside this board, which is obviously the extreme "fire Fulmer" crowd, I think there's a large percentage of UT fans out there that are somewhat indifferent to his status. The folks that you see wearing the orange sweatpants, orange shirt, and orange hats every day of the week, think he's there man. There's some fans in between but it'll take them 2 or 3 years of 5-7 years to start complaining.
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I also have to disagree with you. I work with people who have UTK shrines in thier offices with thier UTK diplomas right next to the framed prints of Neyland Stadium, etc. To a man/woman they all either say they want a change or they think it will happen. Every UTK fan that I have spoken with face to face since Saturday says it's time for a change, and some of those folks were still in Phillip's corner last week. The only place I have heard the opinion that change is not needed is on the Internet. I do agree with Beef that this can get as ugly as Phillip wants to make it. If the Vols lose to AU, UGA and Bama I think he's gone but it is going to be expensive and painful.
 
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#116
VolBeef88 said:
This is going to get much uglier before it's all done. I hate to see it but it is going to get really ugly.
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I think it's a beautiful scenario. Either Fulmer turns it around or he exposes himself for the greedy, pious, and self serving man he always has been. That's a win/win if I ever saw one.
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#118
#118
hatvol96 said:
I think it's a beautiful scenario. Either Fulmer turns it around or he exposes himself for the greedy, pious, and self serving man he always has been. That's a win/win if I ever saw one.
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I dont see it that way. I dont want to see my school go through what it appears it's about to. You can enjoy it all you want.

I hope I'm wrong but it looks like it will get very ugly.
 
#119
#119
VolBeef88 said:
I dont see it that way. I dont want to see my school go through what it appears it's about to. You can enjoy it all you want.

I hope I'm wrong but it looks like it will get very ugly.
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The school will survive. Fulmer's phony reputation as a standup guy won't. That's the beauty. I hope he fights it to the point he's about as fondly remembered as Jerry Green.
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#120
#120
hatvol96 said:
The school will survive. Fulmer's phony reputation as a standup guy won't. That's the beauty. I hope he fights it to the point he's about as fondly remembered as Jerry Green.
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Ofcourse the school will survive. But I dont want to see UT have to go through it. Thats all.
 
#121
#121
hatvol96 said:
The school will survive. Fulmer's phony reputation as a standup guy won't. That's the beauty. I hope he fights it to the point he's about as fondly remembered as Jerry Green.
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Do you mean by stand up guy being shown to be false by taking the buy out? If so then I have to say I would hold the school to the contract as well. I think you too would take the five mill as well.
 
#122
#122
VolBeef88 said:
Do you mean by stand up guy being shown to be false by taking the buy out? If so then I have to say I would hold the school to the contract as well. I think you too would take the five mill as well.
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I'm not the one who has made a cottage industry out of spewing how much I "love" UT and convincing people that all I want is for UT is to be successful. He is. Now, people will get to see him for what he really is. No different than any other coaching mercenary. I like it.
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#123
#123
This is a point that I've heard made multiple times on the Basilio show the past two days. In pursuing the contract he received, Fulmer made this a results oriented issue. Not to say it shouldn't have been results oriented in the first place.
 
#124
#124
VolunteerHillbilly said:
This is a point that I've heard made multiple times on the Basilio show the past two days. In pursuing the contract he received, Fulmer made this a results oriented issue. Not to say it shouldn't have been results oriented in the first place.
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that can't be binding in a buyout scenario.
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#125
#125
I've just heard alot of people mention the 8-win rollover provision. Oddly, if Fulmer does go this year I am fairly certain that his great success in obtaining such a contract may be his undoing. I am starting to wonder if maybe just maybe Hamilton planned this.
 
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