Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[engineerVOL]

So, I just checked yahoo, and the Lady Vols lost again. Sadly, I'm not surprised.

Went from shock to anger to apathy real quick for me.

 

[BruinVol]

Maybe, but two dudes watching that travesty unfold, no more than 25 feet away in s not due to poor team dynamics

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I don't mind admitting that live that I thought the hit was clean. It wasn't until the back view came that it became clear to me there should have been a flag

With that said if the official closer to the LOS saw it like i did perhaps the back side official wasn't as comfortable calling it because they hadn't worked together before.


Anyway a confort level as a crew can't be a bad thing imo.

 

[BruinVol]

Fulmer extended Holy last year.
Do we know the details of the extension?


I think those details tell us a lot about Fulmer and he should be judged on them imo

 

[drvenner]

Have the lady Vols ever lost 5 in a row?

Yes. In 1970, they went 0-6. Thursday, we will tie that record.

 

[mrMet]

Yeah it’s been discussed a few times here. Extended but nothing changed with buyout

 

[JohnnyD1024]

Yeah it’s been discussed a few times here. Extended but nothing changed with buyout

I thought the buyout got lower?

 

[BruinVol]

Yeah it’s been discussed a few times here. Extended but nothing changed with buyout

So do we owe more this year if we fire her than we would have owned without the extension?

 

[tnhunter 10]

Yes. In 1970, they went 0-6. Thursday, we will tie that record.

That was pre Summitt. That tells you that Holly needs to resign before she digs the lady Vols into a deeper hole.

 

[Orange Studs]

Fulmer knows this can't go on like this. Holly knows it can't keep going on like this. Holly needs to pwn up and resign for being a terrible coach. She needs to make it easier on Fulmer if she really cares about UT BB at all.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Fulmer extended Holy last year.
Do we know the details of the extension?

I think those details tell us a lot about Fulmer and he should be judged on them imo

He extended the contract and lowered the buyout. I think they owe her $600K +/- if they fire her this year.

 

[BruinVol]

He extended the contract and lowered the buyout. I think they owe her $600K +/- if they fire her this year.

Good info

Thanks

 

[Ridgerunner Vol]

Fulmer extended Holy last year.
Do we know the details of the extension?


I think those details tell us a lot about Fulmer and he should be judged on them imo

No one should judge Phil on freaking women's bball.... good grief it's a sport only a few enjoy..

 

[SLICKYINC]

That was pre Summitt. That tells you that Holly needs to resign before she digs the lady Vols into a deeper hole.

I’m not sure who would replace her mid season. Maybe would be better to just let everyone know she’s done at the end of the season. I don’t what the right thing to do is, in this situation.

 

[JCP201]

I’m not sure who would replace her mid season. Maybe would be better to just let everyone know she’s done at the end of the season. I don’t what the right thing to do is, in this situation.

Phil will wait till the end of the season and give her respect. The guys are doing great,-- no need to be Debby downer, right now.

 

[tnhunter 10]

I’m not sure who would replace her mid season. Maybe would be better to just let everyone know she’s done at the end of the season. I don’t what the right thing to do is, in this situation.

I just think it would be better for her if she resigned during the season. The hostility towards her would just keep building as the season goes on.

 

[BruinVol]

No one should judge Phil on freaking women's bball.... good grief it's a sport only a few enjoy..

Lord knows I don't give a damn about Women's hoops but I care a lot about how our AD manages $ and his coaches. It's very relevant to the sports i do care about so he does deserve to be judged on it.

 

[SLICKYINC]

Phil will wait till the end of the season and give her respect. The guys are doing great,-- no need to be Debby downer, right now.

I feel like that’s the best thing too.

 

[Ridgerunner Vol]

Lord knows I don't give a damn about Women's hoops but I care a lot about how or AD manages $ and his coaches. It's very relevant to the sports i do care about so he does deserve to be judged on it.

Fix football, and he rides off into the sun set as the hero. I don't care what he spends on coaches. Nor do I care if he does anything with women bball!!!!!

 

[Ace]

That was pre Summitt. That tells you that Holly needs to resign before she digs the lady Vols into a deeper hole.

UT only had a club team in 1970. It was not recognized as a school sport.

 

[Ace]

No one should judge Phil on freaking women's bball.... good grief it's a sport only a few enjoy..

12,000 use to enjoy it everytime LV played. Now attendance is about 5,000.

 

[BruinVol]

Fix football, and he rides off into the sun set as the hero. I don't care what he spends on coaches. Nor do I care if he does anything with women bball!!!!!

If it was only that simple he'd have a very easy job.

The facts of his job are he must have an AD that is prepared for a football program that needs to replace Jeremy Pruitt either for failing or succeeding. I find it relevant for either one of those with how he has and is going to handle Holy.

 

[VolGee4]

Always found it ridiculous that coaches can not control themselves to back up 4 feet, as though their coaching improves dramatically as they touch the field

That is pretty funny. He literally follows him.

But I do understand why coaches have to be reminded. When you are in the zone of coaching, you want to be as close as you can to your players. Communication, seeing what your players see, getting a feel for play calling, etc.- all things a coach wants to be a part of.

 

[Ridgerunner Vol]

If it was only that simple he'd have a very easy job.

The facts of his job are he must have an AD that is prepared for a football program that needs to replace Jeremy Pruitt either for failing or succeeding. I find it relevant for either one of those with how he has and is going to handle Holy.

I don't borrow trouble from tomorrow. If Phil has to replace Pruitt he will be judge on the replacement. Not if he handle women's basketball firing/hiring correctly this year...This is where we differ I don't care how much money he spends or doesn't spend.

 

[BruinVol]

I don't borrow trouble from tomorrow. If Phil has to replace Pruitt he will be judge on the replacement. Not if he handle women's basketball firing/hiring correctly this year...This is where we differ I don't care how much money he spends or doesn't spend.

From what's been posted here it sounds like Fulmer handled the extension very well with Holy.

Imo he did a very poor job on the buyout for Pruitt if he leaves for Alabama.


The holly eXtension made me Glad to see he isn't always pro coach with his contracts.

 

[amavol2]

Why would Fulmer put a buyout in her new contract, the writing has been on the wall for a while. Maybe extend without a buyout.