Could it be Chaney?

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BigOrangeTrain said:
Are you being serious?
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Yes, I am. In my opinion, a STUD OL in college football should definitely go in the first seven rounds of the NFL draft. UT had ONE in 2013, Dallas Thomas (3rd Round). What is your opinion of a STUD OL? I didn't say a good/great OL!!! An Elite player is a STUD, in my opinion.
 
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Devo's Post, Crompton? You mean our highest rated QB recruit since Manning? What an achievement to get him to a 136(!) qbr as a SENIOR. 13 picks. For comparison, JG had a 141 qbr as a sophomore this year. Sorry if I'm not impressed.

What DID he do with Peterman? Maybe you're misremembering, but he was there in 2015, when Peterman has a 136 qbr. It was 2016 when he hit a whopping 163 qbr.

The year before Chaney came to Pitt - over 6.15 ypp and 31 ppg. The year after he left - over 6.7 ypp and 40 ppg. Chaney's year? Less than 5.8 ypp and 28 ppg. Man, what a wizard!

Dude just treads water any time he doesn't have a ton of talent to work with. Once he does have a crazy amount of talent, he does what would be expected, nothing more. No Oklahoma, Clemson, Bama, OSU, Ok St, etc offensive numbers, yet he has the talent to match or exceed right now, so why can't he?



vegasvolfan said:
Crompton was awful before Chaney got a hold of him. Peterman was terrible before Chaney got a hold of him, and he turned both pro.
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Devo is always regurgitating biased facts to his liking based little to no substance! Most of the time he has one stat to point toward the direction of his position on things. When all the other stats or FACTS point toward the opposite of his stance. LOL A coach's worth isn't always seen by a few stats. The other side of the ball dictates what that coach can do a lot of the time. For example, when you have a great D that has a 3rd down efficiency of 28.3% like Clemson did this year. The offense has many more chances to score points and should. The OC can also be a little more aggressive due to knowing his O will get many more chances to score points than other OCs in the country!!!
 
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Okay, weird randomass connection: Every time I see this thread title, Van Halen’s Could This Be Magic? starts playing in my head.
 
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I don’t know anything, but this Chaney deal seems to have some legs. If Pittman comes along then maybe everyone can stop bitching...

For a second
 
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VolsGrad1989 said:
Devo's Post, Crompton? You mean our highest rated QB recruit since Manning? What an achievement to get him to a 136(!) qbr as a SENIOR. 13 picks. For comparison, JG had a 141 qbr as a sophomore this year. Sorry if I'm not impressed.

What DID he do with Peterman? Maybe you're misremembering, but he was there in 2015, when Peterman has a 136 qbr. It was 2016 when he hit a whopping 163 qbr.

The year before Chaney came to Pitt - over 6.15 ypp and 31 ppg. The year after he left - over 6.7 ypp and 40 ppg. Chaney's year? Less than 5.8 ypp and 28 ppg. Man, what a wizard!

Dude just treads water any time he doesn't have a ton of talent to work with. Once he does have a crazy amount of talent, he does what would be expected, nothing more. No Oklahoma, Clemson, Bama, OSU, Ok St, etc offensive numbers, yet he has the talent to match or exceed right now, so why can't he?





Devo is always regurgitating biased facts to his liking based little to no substance! Most of the time he has one stat to point toward the direction of his position on things. When all the other stats or FACTS point toward the opposite of his stance. LOL A coach's worth isn't always seen by a few stats. The other side of the ball dictates what that coach can do a lot of the time. For example, when you have a great D that has a 3rd down efficiency of 28.3% like Clemson did this year. The offense has many more chances to score points and should. The OC can also be a little more aggressive due to knowing his O will get many more chances to score points than the other OC in the opposing box or opposing sidelines.
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BigOrangeTrain said:
IMO, if there is a chance Pittman wants to come to TN, then Pruitt needs to do whatever it takes to get him. While I do believe Friend is a good coach, Pittman has proven he can be elite. Especially in the SEC. i dont know how both would work together. Seems like each would be wanting to be the alpha so to speak. Who knows?
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GREAT POST!!! I agree and have thought the same thing for a long time. I think Pittman is the best OL Coach we have had at UT since Barry!!! UT's O improved dramatically the ONE YEAR we had PITTMAN. Chaney thought so much of him that he took him to Arkansas and Georgia with him!!! Maybe that has been the hold up for all this time. Pruitt is trying to get Chaney and Pittman while keeping Friend. Let Friend and Pittman both coach the OL and another position each. Maybe they could rotate daily for pratices as long as THEY ARE ON THE SAME PAGE DOING EXACTLY THE SAME THINGS TO BUILD CONSISTENCY!!!
 
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I don't want to see Kelly or Fair leave. But, if Weinke is working his IMG connections and will be getting us a lot of IMG Academy recruits in the future. Maybe we could replace Kelly or Fair (weakest recruiter). The secondary is Pruitt's forte anyway and has been reported he spends more time with the secondary than anywhere already. If we had a great offensive staff in every aspect, Pruitt could concentrate on D (secondary) all the time when he wasn't recruiting and fulfilling media/fundraising obligations.
 
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VolsGrad1989 said:
Yes, I am. In my opinion, a STUD OL in college football should definitely go in the first seven rounds of the NFL draft. UT had ONE in 2013, Dallas Thomas (3rd Round). What is your opinion of a STUD OL? I didn't say a good/great OL!!! An Elite player is a STUD, in my opinion.
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Are you serious? He said Butch's first team had stud OLs and you cite Dallas Thomas? He never played for Butch, he was DRAFTED in 2013...

You're drunk, take a lap!
 
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VolsGrad1989 said:
I don't want to see Kelly or Fair leave. But, if Weinke is working his IMG connections and will be getting us a lot of IMG Academy recruits in the future. Maybe we could replace Kelly or Fair (weakest recruiter). The secondary is Pruitt's forte anyway and has been reported he spends more time with the secondary than anywhere already. If we had a great offensive staff in every aspect, Pruitt could concentrate on D (secondary) all the time when he wasn't recruiting and fulfilling media/fundraising obligations.
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Agree, Fair doesn't add much value when the HC is already an elite DB coach, as is Kelly. His secondaries stunk at Colorado St too. But if Pruitt sees something in him, then by all means!
 
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VolsGrad1989 said:
Devo is always regurgitating biased facts to his liking based little to no substance! Most of the time he has one stat to point toward the direction of his position on things.
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I post stats as I get them. I had no idea what Crompton or Peterman's stats were when I went looking. I'd be dang happy if they were better, but alas.

On the other hand, Bray flourished under him. Not sure how to figure Fromm, since he was balling out from the day he showed up.


VolsGrad1989 said:
A coach's worth isn't always seen by a few stats. The other side of the ball dictates what that coach can do a lot of the time. For example, when you have a great D that has a 3rd down efficiency of 28.3% like Clemson did this year. The offense has many more chances to score points and should. The OC can also be a little more aggressive due to knowing his O will get many more chances to score points than other OCs in the country!!!
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Ok? Even if we want to get nickpicky, I posted the QBRs, not gross yardage stats. Your argument is one of - how many plays are being attempted (your example that a good defense gets you the ball back more)? Exactly why I'd never use gross yards, it is far too dependent on tempo, your defense, and playcall distribution. QBR is heavily efficiency-based. For instance, a negative play drops your QBR. You can't just go out, sling it a hundred times willynilly and rack up QBR points, as you can yards. That is why a guy like Fromm can have a great qbr, despite throwing much at all.

Either way, neither the 09 Vols or 15 Pitt D's were atrocious. In fact, 09 Vols was pretty stout iirc
 
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Devo182 said:
I post stats as I get them. I had no idea what Crompton or Peterman's stats were when I went looking. I'd be dang happy if they were better, but alas.

On the other hand, Bray flourished under him. Not sure how to figure Fromm, since he was balling out from the day he showed up.





Ok? Even if we want to get nickpicky, I posted the QBRs, not gross yardage stats. Your argument is one of - how many plays are being attempted (your example that a good defense gets you the ball back more)? Exactly why I'd never use gross yards, it is far too dependent on tempo, your defense, and playcall distribution. QBR is heavily efficiency-based. For instance, a negative play drops your QBR. You can't just go out, sling it a hundred times willynilly and rack up QBR points, as you can yards. That is why a guy like Fromm can have a great qbr, despite throwing much at all.

Either way, neither the 09 Vols or 15 Pitt D's were atrocious. In fact, 09 Vols was pretty stout iirc
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"Either way, neither the 09 Vols or 15 Pitt D's were atrocious. In fact, 09 Vols was pretty stout iirc"


You are spinning your rhetoric as always!!! LOL How bad was the 2012 D at UT with Sal when Chaney had his most successful O? I will tell you the D gave up 36ppg!!! UGA was #10 in 3rd down conversion for offense this year along with Bama (#2), Clemson was #25. When you have a college team that has an O and D that ranks in the top 25 in 3rd down efficiency. They are probably in the top 10 in the country. Unless, they have a ton of penalties and turnovers that cost them lots of points! 9 of the top 10 teams after the conference championship games were in the top 32 (8 in top 25) in 3rd down conversion for offense. The lone one that was not was Florida that was #47.

I know UGA flopped vs Texas. But, I think they were the fourth best team in the country going into the playoffs and would have beat both OSU or OU should they have had the chance. I think several didn't care to play in the Sugar Bowl due to being disappointed in not beating Bama in the SEC Championship.

I never said Chaney developed Fromm and made him great. I really haven't given Chaney credit for Bray's development either. I am saying Chaney is a great OL/QB Coach and probably an ELITE OC!!! I want him to come to UT and prove me and others right. I think he gets it done should he come!!!
 
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It’s looking like it’s Chaney and Pittman. This guy doesn’t have a million followers, but check him out, EVERYTHING he has said so far has happened. He has legit sources and knows his stuff!
 

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According to VQ insiders, they to think it's more likely Sark than Chaney. 247 Mods on both GA and TN say there is zero smoke regarding Chaney.
 
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Jay Nichols Sports says: "Sources say deal with Jim Chaney is in the works. Expect an announcement next week. Chaney also bringing Sam Pittman with him. Huge snag for Pruitt."
 
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