Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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volinbama256 said:
We all were hopeful and excited when Pruitt came in at the end last year and flashed a lot of potential being able to recruit at the elite level. Lots of folks said "just wait for him to get a full year here to recruit and we'll be getting the big fishes in the boat"... We are going to get some really good talent in this class, but still realistically needed 3-4 more elite level guys to really get our program kick-started this fall. (assuming we are getting Wright)

I am optimistic that we do have a good coaching staff (although personally I still think it's dumb to have some staff coaching up positions they've never played before themselves- Weinke/RBs?) that will end up getting the most out of the talent we have. The issue is AL, GA, and FL continue to do a better job of pulling the talent needed, and we have to play all of them every year. The team culture and mindset must change for the upcoming season in order for us to really compete with everyone.

We will start to close the gap sooner than later, but I think it is going to take at least 3 more years to have a chance at getting to the SEC Championship game. It will be interesting to see how the staff sells/spins getting more elite talent after a 6-6/7-5 season, unless it is simply that we are moving up, but need their help to take the next step. I am still somewhat hopeful that Pruitt knows what he is doing with the OC search, and will bring us what we need. If he doesn't, and with the time that it has taken, it will probably be a huge red flag as to his ability to handle a power 5 head coaching position... we will find out soon enough on all fronts.

For now, we are a basketball school.
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Talk about a feel good piece!
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Guys... guys... my sources stated that the war room met this morning. Coley was interviewed and that the actual rate is 3 yrs at $3.8mil. Also, they stated that Tee Martin was comin as well. Possibly as RBs coach.
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My inside sources say that I gotta go poop. When they talk, I listen. They are rarely wrong. TIFWIWGOVOLSROTCGUTSNEVERLIE
 
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Last I'm saying about Freeze-- but UT wasn't hiring him, and the SEC was never on board. Sankey was clear about this and so was UT admin. Freeze had a pattern of behavior going back a decade that was unacceptable to UT and the SEC, UT and the SEC knew about it and was not going to go in that direction. A coach who ignores that or thinks he can do an end-run around his boss and his boss's bosses is not going to last long, so anybody claiming Freeze was Pruitt's top priority and Pruitt was pushing to hire him against top-down wishes better hope they're wrong.
 
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LA Vol said:
Last I'm saying about Freeze-- but UT wasn't hiring him, and the SEC was never on board. Sankey was clear about this and so was UT admin. Freeze had a pattern of behavior going back a decade that was unacceptable to UT and the SEC, UT and the SEC knew about it and was not going to go in that direction. A coach who ignores that or thinks he can do an end-run around his boss and his boss's bosses is not going to last long, so anybody claiming Freeze was Pruitt's top priority and Pruitt was pushing to hire him against top-down wishes better hope they're wrong.
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Plus he’s a complete goober.
 
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LA Vol said:
Last I'm saying about Freeze-- but UT wasn't hiring him, and the SEC was never on board. Sankey was clear about this and so was UT admin. Freeze had a pattern of behavior going back a decade that was unacceptable to UT and the SEC, UT and the SEC knew about it and was not going to go in that direction. A coach who ignores that or thinks he can do an end-run around his boss and his boss's bosses is not going to last long, so anybody claiming Freeze was Pruitt's top priority and Pruitt was pushing to hire him against top-down wishes better hope they're wrong.
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I think there’s truth in the middle. We went to talk to him first so Pruitt clearly had interest. Your big hang up is that you want it to be made clear he was never offered the job. I believe that. And I don’t believe Pruitt pushed it very hard when he was told to take Freeze off the list.

But, he was the first guy. I don’t think that’s debatable.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I think there’s truth in the middle. We went to talk to him first so Pruitt clearly had interest. Your big hang up is that you want it to be made clear he was never offered the job. I believe that. And I don’t believe Pruitt pushed it very hard when he was told to take Freeze off the list.

But, he was the first guy. I don’t think that’s debatable.
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That’s the whole thing. Freeze was at the top of Pruitts wish list as he was the first real call. Talks were made. Freeze wanted the job.... but stuff from his past that fulmer wasn’t comfortable with and the sec put a halt to it.

When it gets to the stage where you’re doing that deep of vetting and checking with the sec about hiring him then i take that as being offered the job. Just like yurcich. You don’t go into negotiations with someone unless you’ve offered them the job. That’s why i said there is an astronomical gap between being offered the job and being offered a contract. You don’t get offered a contract unless you’ve accepted the job.
 
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Just curious but what is this freeze stuff that is popping up. It seems like if it was that bad it wouldve come up when he was hired at ole miss
 
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bignewt said:
Talk about a feel good piece!
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I know, I know... was at a party last night listening to bammers talk about getting Bogle and others, then they started saying they feel sorry for UT, which just pissed me off even more. They go "well at least you beat the piss out of GA today in BASKETBALL"... I was about ready to start throwing bows and wind-milling F'ers ...

After my last one gets out of college, I am seriously considering moving back to Chattanooga... can't take it much longer.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I think there’s truth in the middle. We went to talk to him first so Pruitt clearly had interest. Your big hang up is that you want it to be made clear he was never offered the job. I believe that. And I don’t believe Pruitt pushed it very hard when he was told to take Freeze off the list.

But, he was the first guy. I don’t think that’s debatable.
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No. I've said multiple times that UT didn't offer Freeze. IDK what Pruitt does or is doing. I'm not his confidant, and I'm willing to bet no one on this board is. The media certainly isn't. Former players, coaches and players aren't. He's running a tight search and confiding in a closed circle. Talking is one thing; interviewing is another. And hiring is in an entirely different realm, and Pruitt's not doing that on his own. There are people whose opinions matter more than his.

If you think Pruitt isn't accountable to people above him or doesn't operate within certain parameters, then you have no idea how UT is run. Or any business, for that matter.
 
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