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#51
#51
I really don't see 8-4, I hope I'm wrong.
I dont either, especially with another new OC

Aug. 31 Georgia State W
Sept. 7 BYU W
Sept. 14 Chattanooga W
Sept. 21 at Florida L

Sept. 28OPEN DATE

Oct. 5 Georgia L
Oct. 12 Mississippi State L
Oct. 19 at Alabama L
Oct. 26 South Carolina W/L
Nov. 2 UAB W/L
Nov. 9 at Kentucky W

Nov. 16 OPEN DATE

Nov. 23 at Missouri W
Nov. 30 Vanderbilt W

6-6 to 8-4 but could just as likely be another 5-7 season...
 
#52
#52
IMO defensive line will be our achilles heel next season like Oline was this year. Pruitt put together a nearly amazing class coming off of a 5 and 7 season...but despite being in the running for several good "big eaters" on the Dline, we signed very little, and are losing a bunch. Shy tuttle, despite not showing up much on the stat sheets, will be sorely, sorely missed. Watch game tape, him and our walkon hero turned scholly man, The Paul Bain, were about all we had that could get any push at tackle this season. They are both gone now...we are gonna really struggle at tackle unless we get a Juco or some more committments from very highly rated, 300 plus pounders that can play well from day 1.

I am a sunshine pumper by trade, but to anyone who focuses on line play, as I do, this looks very, very shaky for next year. Our LB amd safeties will get beat to death if every tackle is made 5 to 7 yards downfield BC our Dline is getting beaten badly at the point of attack. We will be unable to stop the run...just like many times last season, and every single snap of Botchs last season.
Got a feeling Savion Williams is going to be a good one. Simmons will step on campus and be one of the strongest guys on the team. Pruitt didnt sign highly rated guys, but he signed some that will require 2 blockers for sure.
 
#53
#53
I’m right there with you. Until we get the line play straightened out on both sides of the bill, it will be tough.
This always has been and as far as I can will always be the key to success especially in the SEC. RB’s are plentiful and really so are WR’s. The key is an OL that understands and executes. Then on DL be strong and athletic enough to disrupt that OL. Hopefully we’re heading in that direction especially with this class of OL.
 
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#54
#54
IMO defensive line will be our achilles heel next season like Oline was this year. Pruitt put together a nearly amazing class coming off of a 5 and 7 season...but despite being in the running for several good "big eaters" on the Dline, we signed very little, and are losing a bunch. Shy tuttle, despite not showing up much on the stat sheets, will be sorely, sorely missed. Watch game tape, him and our walkon hero turned scholly man, The Paul Bain, were about all we had that could get any push at tackle this season. They are both gone now...we are gonna really struggle at tackle unless we get a Juco or some more committments from very highly rated, 300 plus pounders that can play well from day 1.

I am a sunshine pumper by trade, but to anyone who focuses on line play, as I do, this looks very, very shaky for next year. Our LB amd safeties will get beat to death if every tackle is made 5 to 7 yards downfield BC our Dline is getting beaten badly at the point of attack. We will be unable to stop the run...just like many times last season, and every single snap of Botchs last season.



It's been awhile since UT has had a good Dline and next year probably won't be an exception. I agree that the Dline will be a real concern, because it all starts up front, unfortunately.
We've got to a least get back to beating Vanderbilt, don't we?
 
#55
#55
IMO defensive line will be our achilles heel next season like Oline was this year. Pruitt put together a nearly amazing class coming off of a 5 and 7 season...but despite being in the running for several good "big eaters" on the Dline, we signed very little, and are losing a bunch. Shy tuttle, despite not showing up much on the stat sheets, will be sorely, sorely missed. Watch game tape, him and our walkon hero turned scholly man, The Paul Bain, were about all we had that could get any push at tackle this season. They are both gone now...we are gonna really struggle at tackle unless we get a Juco or some more committments from very highly rated, 300 plus pounders that can play well from day 1.

I am a sunshine pumper by trade, but to anyone who focuses on line play, as I do, this looks very, very shaky for next year. Our LB amd safeties will get beat to death if every tackle is made 5 to 7 yards downfield BC our Dline is getting beaten badly at the point of attack. We will be unable to stop the run...just like many times last season, and every single snap of Botchs last season.
I think Greg Emerson and Emmit Gooden could fill those holes... What about Kingston Harris?
 
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#57
#57
Jordan Allen and Jeremy Banks (maybe?) could also develop into nice players down the line
I think Banks could be a very good LB. I m9ight see how he doe during Spring practice. However, he may learn to jold on to the football and contribute at RB. He has the power and speed to play the position if he can hold on to the ball.l
 
#60
#60
Johnson and JJ returning at LB. Add Harrison and Crouch to this group and things are starting to look up at the LB position I feel. I know we are still in on a couple of more LBs and hope we get em as this is our biggest need on defense I feel. You can't be a physical dominant defense without a bunch of big and fast grown men at the LB position.

Classy announcement by Taylor I thought.

I'm not sure I would be hyping up this whole group like we have an All-Sec caliber group. The good news is we have experience returning. The bad news is we have experience returning. I just remember several of you calling Bitui All-SEC prior to the start of the season. Many have continued to overstate the upper class talent on the roster and quickly blame Coach Pruitt for the lemon that is put on the field. This roster still has a lot of Lyle Jones written on it for now.
 
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#61
#61
I dont either, especially with another new OC

Aug. 31 Georgia State W
Sept. 7 BYU W
Sept. 14 Chattanooga W
Sept. 21 at Florida L

Sept. 28OPEN DATE

Oct. 5 Georgia L
Oct. 12 Mississippi State L
Oct. 19 at Alabama L
Oct. 26 South Carolina W/L
Nov. 2 UAB W/L
Nov. 9 at Kentucky W

Nov. 16 OPEN DATE

Nov. 23 at Missouri W
Nov. 30 Vanderbilt W

6-6 to 8-4 but could just as likely be another 5-7 season...
Mississippi loses 12 starters. UAB in Neyland. I think we stomp the Bragging Dragon.
 
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#62
#62
I can see our struggles along both lines being the problem next year. Most of the skill players problems stemmed from the poor O-line play. The skill players cant get into position to make a play if they don't have time, between JG running for his life and the RB's barely getting the ball in their hands before first contact, its no wonder that we had so many fumbles and had to settle for passes for minimal to no gain. The defense has to be able to tackle better if we expect to have time to grow as an offense. I think we will struggle to put up points behind a tired and undersized line, and will struggle to stop the run until at least a 5-6 yard game by good running teams. But CJP has an offseason to work with them on tackling, and luckily tackling can be taught. If we get enough beef on the line to create creases that will be a drastic improvement from being blown off the ball into our own backfield.
 
#63
#63
Tackling skill? This still baffles me.

Tackling is a skill. First, you have to "want to" but you also need to be fast, (gotta get there) physically strong in arms and hands. And you need the mental awareness to be able to "lock in" on someone. Some guys take the first move and get faked out easily. Or they play out of control, running up but completely missing any contact when the ball carrier makes a basic move. The good players play under control, make contact, stop the momentum until help arrives to finish the play. Also, using leverage to stop a 3 yd gain from becoming 5 or 6 yds.

One of the biggest differences in Tennessee and these teams playing in the big bowls and playoffs, watch how good their LBs and DBs are tackling in space and limiting yards after contact. Then watch a replay of one of Tennessee's games. It will open your eyes to just how bad the Vols are tackling, especially in open field.
 
#64
#64
Other than Tuttle, we really didn't get much production on the DL except from Johnson, who showed up in some games, but got mauled in many others. The bar is just not very high to get improved play on the DL----imo.

We'll have Gooden, Harris, Middleton, Williams, Butler, and Emerson to fill DT and DE positions--JUCOs Middleton and Williams just lack SEC experience.

I know that everyone was singing Phillips' praises at the end of the game, but I expect Butler and Emerson to play better than he did.

We ought to be better at LB, and much improved in the secondary.

It's just an opinion at this point from anyone.

I'm banking heavily that CJP and crew know a whole heck of a lot more about evaluating talent than the previous idiots did.

GO VOLS!

I think you are right. We have a lot of people coming back and a weak schedule next year. I don’t agree that talent was the problems with Butch and Company though. I just don’t think they were good coaches. With kids coming back in year two of Pruitt’s system, with SC, Vandy and Mississippi St. at home and no Oregons, Oklahoma or West Virginia type out of conference games, I think we very possibly could win 8 or more games. Mississippi St. lost something like 8 seniors. We very easily could take both Missouri without Lock and Kentucky without a handful of people. We can’t drop a game we shouldn’t win such as BYU or USB, but we have those at home. The only games we should lose next year are Bama, Georgia and Florida.

Losing Tuttle and Johnson IS going to hurt early though. I do think the guys behind them can fill their shoes, but it’s the lack of depth that concerns me there and learning yet another offense. My hope is that won’t hurt us as much as recent years because of how light the first quarter of our schedule is next year, so we will have some growing room without too any losses. Florida will just before our open date is perfect as we will then get a week off to fix mistakes and take on Georgianat home. Who knows what happens there? Will they be any better next year than they were last year? Fromm has yet to play in Neumann’s. It could get interesting there. I am chalking that up as a loss with everyone else, but who knows?

But while we are talking about what bodes well for us next year and what doesn’t, Let’s not negate that this is our 5th OC in 6 years: Bajakian, Debord, Scott, Helton and Scott. It doesn’t completely negate the fact that we return so much of our offense, but it definitely doesn’t help continuity.
 
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#65
#65
I think you are right. We have a lot of people coming back and a weak schedule next year. I don’t agree that talent was the problems with Butch and Company though. I just don’t think they were good coaches. With kids coming back in year two of Pruitt’s system, with SC, Vandy and Mississippi St. at home and no Oregons, Oklahoma or West Virginia type out of conference games, I think we very possibly could win 8 or more games. Mississippi St. lost something like 8 seniors. We very easily could take both Missouri without Lock and Kentucky without a handful of people. We can’t drop a game we shouldn’t win such as BYU or USB, but we have those at home. The only games we should lose next year are Bama, Georgia and Florida.

Losing Tuttle and Johnson IS going to hurt early though. I do think the guys behind them can fill their shoes, but it’s the lack of depth that concerns me there and learning yet another offense. My hope is that won’t hurt us as much as recent years because of how light the first quarter of our schedule is next year, so we will have some growing room without too any losses. Florida will just before our open date is perfect as we will then get a week off to fix mistakes and take on Georgianat home. Who knows what happens there? Will they be any better next year than they were last year? Fromm has yet to play in Neumann’s. It could get interesting there. I am chalking that up as a loss with everyone else, but who knows?

But while we are talking about what bodes well for us next year and what doesn’t, Let’s not negate that this is our 5th OC in 6 years: Bajakian, Debord, Scott, Helton and Scott. It doesn’t completely negate the fact that we return so much of our offense, but it definitely doesn’t help continuity.

CBJ and crew had their chance in the 2015 season and just flat out blew it! Wins that year against OK and Fla--and the momentum that winning would've brought into the home game against Arky would've been exceptional and helped those recruits straddling the fence to turn Orange. But they could not overcome who they are.

We have 3 pretty easy games lined up to kick off the 2019 season and that should be enough time to get our front 7 somewhat settled--barring injuries.
I think CJP will hire an OC who will provide some continuity....he has stated repeatedly that you cannot win championships without being able to run the ball.
So I don't expect him to hire an OC who will sling it around everywhere. We will be run oriented with a diverse play-action passing game pro-style attack---but I believe he will hire a guy who will implement the RPO, too.

Replacing Tuttle and Johnson will not hurt as much as people think--imo.

GO VOLS! We NEED to sign Crouch and Wright to get this thing turned around sooner rather than later. I think Crouch could be another Leonard Little type player!
 
#70
#70
Yep, a little silly, to say the least, IMO to suggest we lose to UAB. How many years has it been since we lost to a cupcake?
UAB is MUCH better than Charleston. So, I wouldn't be overly confident about that game. And, they have a proven HC. We don't.
 
#72
#72
UAB is MUCH better than Charleston. So, I wouldn't be overly confident about that game. And, they have a proven HC. We don't.
And even in our worst season in program history, under the used-car salesman as coach, we still didn't lose to a lower-tier school.
 
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#73
#73
Like they did this year? I don't see any reason for optimism there.


I'm sorry you live in a world where every bridge you cross is just another to consider jumping from. While I don't recommend jumping, physically speaking, if you wish to jump off with regards to the Vols, I will not mourn the loss of your fandom. Doom and gloom with everything on this team is ridiculous. If you need positivity, don the crimson and feel better about yourself, if you just need the attention or the drama, go root for someone else.
 
#74
#74
UAB is MUCH better than Charleston. So, I wouldn't be overly confident about that game. And, they have a proven HC. We don't.
That’s true, if we played them in 2018. They lose something like 29 seniors. They built the program off juco and grad transfer, but are getting ready for a big transition with the large senior class.
 
#75
#75
For consistency, I thought Phillips was the best DL Tennesseee had this yr but overall, none had the kind of yr you’d expect from 4 and 5 star recruits their SENIOR yr. It was obvious none put in the necessary work in the weight room to succeed at SEC level.
 
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