Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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31VFL said:
It is one of the dumbest lines people throw out there on this board. Like we can actually do something about being mediocre.
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If you just REALLY REALLY expect and demand it more on a message...wait I messed up. If you just REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY expect, demand and demand it on a message board!
 
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JacketVol said:
Our coaches wouldn't let them commit and lost them before signing day because they slowed played them. Sometimes the kids don't trust the coaches and rightfully so. It is a meat market business. What I meant by posting is in this forum which leads me to think you don't watch it very much. If you had, you would understand my statement. Brown was all orange and the coaches told him to hold off on his verbal till he had to take a spot somewhere else and when Mack got the job at UNC, it turned him back to his home school where his brother plays. Payton picked Miss State as his verbal because we wouldn't take him. THEY wanted to be Vols and we lost them due to swinging for guys like hazelwood and Pickens. You tell a kid who wants to commit to hold on, they get other options and tell you to stick it. I can't make it any clearer.
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Nothing you're saying is groundbreaking or new...it's part of the process and with the new ESD and 25 per class limit it's not going to make it any easier. You're just a username on a forum of anonymous opinions, that's all I'm saying. Can't make it any clearer, no offense meant I'm sure you know more than me and are far more informed. I say that truthfully too, no blue font. The area I live rarely has talent that's getting UT recruitment and I don't have the time or desire to try and keep my ear on the pulse of all the possible kids that may or may not want to commit to UT.
 
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JacketVol said:
Thanks for rational thought and posting but you have not posted much and K. Brown wanted to be here and we slowed played him and he is an outstanding prospect and we did the same thing to Javonta. We did the same thing to Anderson and he then told us he was coming and then signed with USC because he wasn't slow played by them. I do know a few things that are true. You don't have to believe them nor AV either. I don't have his connections but know who he is and what he does and actually have some myself. Gotta hand it to the staff to go for the big wins but they didn't win any of those today and lost out on some guys they eventually wanted but didn't get.
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i'll buy some of this.

i think coaches are sometimes wary of accepting a committment if they're not 100% sure, i mean, either you have your standard and you follow it, or you don't. so i don't fault the staff for going thru the process.

that said, i do think they can do a better job of kinda reading the tea leaves of how things are going and when they should probably pull the trigger and take a kid, and when to slow play.

i think Anderson and Brown are two good examples, that i bet if you got pruitt in a closed room between him, me and the fencepost, would probably tell you he should have taken those guys committments when he had the chance. but that's hindsight. as it turns out, we probably put too many eggs in the basket of guys like Bogle, Eboigbee, Pappoe, and basically every WR recruit not named ramel keyton......edit: you still take those swings though. you have to. not taking the swing is what Butch would do. and we wouldn't land any of those big name guys.

for the rest of this class, not knowing how the board resets after today, i think we still have to address DL (where we go to find it, dunno), and focus on Wright, Crouch, Gray and To'oto'o. sign the rest of our committments, get those three and a DL and it's gonna be a very good class.
 
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JacketVol said:
You guys don't understand Jack about recruiting and kids and what they say and do. @Atlanta VOL these guys that like this don't deserve your time appreciate you but I would stop posting because these jack ***** don't deserve your time
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Dude he was dead wrong with his info today. I’m sure he couldn’t care less about message board posters he will never meet. Calm down.
 
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Our coaches and bagmen get played by recruits. Not many kids are willling to come here with our pathetic record over the last decade and I don’t blame them. We are going to have to go better than 5-7 before we get an elite class
 
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As long as we keep everyone we think including Wright and Gray we will be aight, aight.

I am keeping the faith we have real coaches this time around that know what they are doing.

As we all know High school star ratings don’t matter when your on the field in college. Coaching a developing makes a major difference.

Now go eat some cornbread, aight.
 
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scvolfan7 said:
Cuz they had more stars?
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no, because we didn't get any of the DL that we thought were better than anderson and we didn't get any of the WR that we thought were better that Brown.

if you want to find faults with how this class was maybe handled, these are two potentially good examples of where the slow play backfired.
 
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Even with the reality that the program is 67-70 over the past 11 seasons since Phil's last year, some of you don't get how good it is that CJP is bringing in a top 15 class that meets proven needs. Have you actually looked at the mix matched to need and at how all of the players have the right physical attributes walking in the door? If you don't get what is happening is much better than should be expected then following recruiting is not right for you.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
So... we're missing our targets today and meanwhile, Florida is racking up on ESPN with one of the top OL, DL, and the number 1 TE in the country. Great...
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Yep, but everyone said last year just wait until Pruitt and Co get an entire year under their belt to recruit, then we will be seeing the big fish just jumping in the boat! Wait.................................................................... NM

apparently it is looking like we are still not cheating well enough, or at the same level as AU, FL, GA, and AL, and until we do (see Nolan Smith Raptor), we will continue to cross our fingers for 6-6, 7-5, maybe 8-4 seasons if we are lucky... Our coaches can coach, but recruiting is not going as well.

I believe I remember ATLVol said sit back and enjoy the process and recruiting--- I'm not enjoying watching our rivals pick us off and pick up all the elite talent...
 
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