Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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HankHill said:
...a good majority of people from all fan bases are calling fields selfish, baby, runs at the first bit of adversity, takes his ball and goes home”. Etc.

Completely ignoring the side of... well maybe he should go somewhere where he will fit better, play more, be happier, idk anything positive.
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No one has said they don’t agree with kids being able to transfer. People just object to it resulting in free agency and not having to sit out a year. Distinct difference.

I want kids to be happy. They can do what they want. They just have to sit a year unless there is a hardship waiver.
 
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drylo said:
Truth is that there are very, very few players (e.g. Peyton, Cam, Johnny Football) who are irreplaceable in terms of bringing value to their university. College football is big business, and the value is in the schools’ brands. If you took the entire “ESPN 300” (more players than get drafted every year in the NFL) and diverted them into some second-rate pro league (or the NFL, possibly, for a select few), all the same money would still pour into college football. It has nothing to do with the players, other than that you obviously need somebody (anybody) to play.

For those who say the players add a lot more value than what they get back from the school, then let me just suggest a brilliant arbitrage opportunity for you — you should start up a new pro league that takes kids straight out of high school and actually pay them their “market value.” If you are right about them being shafted by the NCAA, then new league should crush it.
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Hell...pay them the value of their college expenses per year that they’re supposedly being “shafted”. Bet there are some bounced checks.
 
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HankHill said:
...a good majority of people from all fan bases are calling fields selfish, baby, runs at the first bit of adversity, takes his ball and goes home”. Etc.

Completely ignoring the side of... well maybe he should go somewhere where he will fit better, play more, be happier, idk anything positive.
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He shouldn't have gone to it UGA in the first place. It wasn't a smart decision.
 
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rockytop25 said:
Most coaches are upfront about it, have no problem with it if the kids know what they are signing up for before they go. If they are comfortable taking the risk then it's not on the coaches.
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To add context our baseball program has 62 commits in the 18,19.20 classes and that doesn't even count the juco signees which is roughly 10-15 more

And only 35 of those can be on the roster.


No thats not the norm
 
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VolGee4 said:
No one has said they don’t agree with kids being able to transfer. People just object to it resulting in free agency and not having to sit out a year. Distinct difference.

I want kids to be happy. They can do what they want. They just have to sit a year unless there is a hardship waiver.
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JAllen18 said:
Would love if to have continuity at S&C and we really need it. But, its hard to turn down your alma mater.
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It makes sense that they would throw the house at alumni in order to right their ship. If I were an alum and saw my school going through a real tough patch -and they wanted me back to help get it together - it would be tough to turn them down.
 
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Hoping someone can help me out here...

Do the Vols have anyone on staff, or support staff, that has a son that plays in the NFL, or has a son that is a 4* recruit in '20 or '21?
 
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Rishvol said:
I haven't been wrong about anything but if you want to "claim victory" for being stubborn. I guess you can have it.
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Lol you originally said Football and Basketball were the only college sports that offered full scholarships. That’s 100000% incorrect. But you do you
 
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LA Vol said:
UT carries far more non-contributing players than players asked to look elsewhere. If it were all about money, we could cut at least 20-30 current players and add walk-ons, without losing productivity. The cut players would lose tuition, room, board, medical, academic support and career counseling. Culling the herd would be cost-effective for schools; less so for players.
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Even more relevant at schools and programs where little or no athletic programs are turning a profit. I agree with all the points you have made on this topic today. We focus on a couple of stud outliers when the vast majority are simply above average athletes hustling in obscurity to a couple hundred fans.
 
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