Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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Kingston Vol said:
But in college you theoretically learned things that made you a better lawyer. There’s nothing someone who wants to play football gains from sitting through Biology. Or said better, there’s nothing gained that helps them in their chosen profession.
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Like I said above, one can learn personal finance, public speaking, english, etc. Plus, they don't even have to graduate to play football...at all. They just have to be 3 years removed from high school.

Folks need to join the real world.
 
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Smokey123 said:
a non-student athlete has to sit out to transfer?

It has a lot to do with it, a coach can jump from school to school lying to recruits and not a damn person says “he should have to sit out” or trashes him. A football player has only four years to pursue his dream and if he decides to transfer he’s trashed as a cry baby, sore loser, ect and has to sit out.

The fact that the NCAA and others want to be able to control and dictate what another adult does with their career and life is odd

But no blame on Kirby for lying?
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w'ere not talking about non student athletes. the rules apply equally to all student athletes.
 
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drvenner said:
Uh, I am sorry, but a degree is not useless for anyone ever. It may not lead to the career that someone really wants, but it's better to have it than not have it.
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I can think of a few NFL players off the top of my head that could have benefited from some personal finance credits.

Education is never useless, kids.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
But in college you theoretically learned things that made you a better lawyer. There’s nothing someone who wants to play football gains from sitting through Biology. Or said better, there’s nothing gained that helps them in their chosen profession.
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spoken like an engineer.
 
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Smokey123 said:
That’s not what I asked. You said: so how do you feel about coaches leaving for better opportunities?
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Ok let me try and put it in a simple terms as possible for you, Hank, and Kingston

A coach is a Professional. meaning he is being PAID for his services. When a coach signs a contract they usually have something call a BUY OUT, When the coach leaves for "better employment" they usually OWE their previous employers a lump sum of their salary. Vise versa if they were to be fired for something that is not a fire-able offense.

A student-athlete is an AMATEUR meaning their are REWARDED for their athletic abilities. This reward is usually a free education, free room and board, free school supplies, free books, free meals, free healthcare, etc. Lots of items that are rewarded to these student athletes. They are an INVESTMENT to whichever school they go to, whether they successfully contribute to the sport or not, and as such have an obligation to the school. If they choose to leave the school then there is a punishment, aka sitting out a year for their perspective sports, and it should be enforced. There are rare occasions where it would be acceptable for the student-athlete to transfer but those are few and far between. Being called a mean name is not a hardship.
 
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Simonton on 3hl just now... not dishing out the recruiting feels. He thinks a very quiet boring signing day tomorrow for Tennessrr
 
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Smokey123 said:
Yes and I’m saying it’s a dumb rule that is unfair for all student athletes.

Why should they be penalized for playing a sport?
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Smokey123 said:
Football players are employees now?

They must be making bank with all the money they make the ncaa and the university
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Kingston and Hank were analogizing as though they were. Their argument was: "If you can quit your job today and go work the same job somewhere else immediately, why can't college football players transfer and play somewhere else immediately?"

My rebuttal was that their premise was flawed, and that many people can't quit their job and go work the same job somewhere else immediately. I think my posts are pretty consistent on this point.
 
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VolGee4 said:
They don't have to get a degree to play football. They just have to be 3 years removed from high school. That's the requirement, just like the requirement for practicing law is two degrees. There are reasons for that as well, one of which is probably physical maturity.

Even as an undergrad at UT, I was in favor of a "football major." Make these guys take classes in personal finance, english, public relations, interviewing 101, etc. That wouldn't bother me at all. But the "it's not fair they can't play out of high school" argument is kind of ridiculous. There are many, many careers that have certain requirements (even age requirements) in order to be eligible. .
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good post. i think there's merit here. a lot of what you're talking about could then be rolled in to any number of programs for those that maybe find out they're not going to the NFL or NBA or whatever. but for those that are headed in that direction and can and do leave early, they're getting foundational stuff they'll need, and credit apply in the futrure should they want to come back and finish the degree.
 
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