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Walk around campus and look at their names on things. The benefit to academics is massive. Therefore they will wield as much influence as they want for the most part. Though Big Jim is closing in on 90 and doesn't care as much about meddling as many on here would have you believe.

That's the thing though, how do you know this? And, he doesn't have to meddle much.

I'm not saying it is as bad as some say it is, but does it really matter? I mean we do know he has been a strong "influence" on some very unfortunate decisions.

I did remember reading just the other day somewhere, that Big Jim and his wife gave over $70 million total in two "gifts" in a period of 2 years I think? And those were special gifts, meaning that was on top of whatever other regular donations.

I guess what I'm saying is, I don't know if someone is claiming most of the House of Haslam crap is crap made up by fans just wanting to attach blame, then I'd like to see something to back it up.
 
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Does anybody know what kind of bank they donate annually to UT to warrant such (apparent) control? If they are truly bankrolling the entire athletic department (which I highly doubt) and the track record of the program since they have been donating is similar to that of an Enron chart, why would the BOD still allow it to continue? I get it that (to quote Animal House) "We need the dues". But damn...

Thoughts?

Not sure of the total, but a quick google search showed the following

• $32.6 million in 2006
• $5 million in 2007
• $50 million in 2014
 
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Jimmy was why Currie came here. Jimmy was why we had to fight off Schiano.

Most people loved Currie until the football team went into the sh*tter! He brought back the Lady Vols brand and was seen in and out of the athletic community. To know how much Jimmy was involved in the Schiano fiasco, I don't know. If you have solid proof it was Jimmy Haslam please post.
 
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That's the thing though, how do you know this? And, he doesn't have to meddle much.

I'm not saying it is as bad as some say it is, but does it really matter? I mean we do know he has been a strong "influence" on some very unfortunate decisions.

I did remember reading just the other day somewhere, that Big Jim and his wife gave over $70 million total in two "gifts" in a period of 2 years I think? And those were special gifts, meaning that was on top of whatever other regular donations.

I guess what I'm saying is, I don't know if someone is claiming most of the House of Haslam crap is crap made up by fans just wanting to attach blame, then I'd like to see something to back it up.

I have personal friendships that allow me to know some of it. I know for a fact that the Haslams actually tried to help in the opposite direction of what happened in past coaching searches where they ended up taking the blame for some things going wrong. Not the most recent one, but when Butch was hired. They are like George Soros to right wingers or Koch brothers to left wingers. Blamed for all ills, never credited for anything positive. The actual truth is they have made a massive positive impact on the University as a whole. More so than almost anyone, they are a good part of the reason our athletic facilities are so nice.
 
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Prove to me it's not crap! See. It works both ways.
If the HOH existed as fans want to believe then wouldn't an OC have already been hired and shoved down the fans' throats?

I'm not the one running my mouth about it. You said MOST was crap. Give an example of what you think is crap. I already told you I thought there was some exaggerating.

Ive seen very little blaming of Haslam and that was in the very beginning of this search. Is this search for an OC your example?
 
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I have personal friendships that allow me to know some of it. I know for a fact that the Haslams actually tried to help in the opposite direction of what happened in past coaching searches where they ended up taking the blame for some things going wrong. Not the most recent one, but when Butch was hired. They are like George Soros to right wingers or Koch brothers to left wingers. Blamed for all ills, never credited for anything positive. The actual truth is they have made a massive positive impact on the University as a whole. More so than almost anyone, they are a good part of the reason our athletic facilities are so nice.
The University has benefited from their monetary contributions, not sure about other means of influence. Browns sucks, Pilot been under huge lawsuits, Randy Boyd was the Haslam supported governor nominee and was then hired on as president of UT after getting bumped out in the governor's race. Thats shady enough if nothing else that has come out is true.
 
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Jimmy was why Currie came here. Jimmy was why we had to fight off Schiano.
Honestly, Please tell us the details. What has Jimmy dictated and how did it happen? I am not arguing with you, I just want to know.

I guess if I cared enough to donate such large sums, I would also care enough to make some suggestions. Those suggestions could easily be interpreted as demands. Or perhaps they are demands outright.
 
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Most people loved Currie until the football team went into the sh*tter! He brought back the Lady Vols brand and was seen in and out of the athletic community. To know how much Jimmy was involved in the Schiano fiasco, I don't know. If you have solid proof it was Jimmy Haslam please post.
Everyone, and I mean everyone needs to read this written by Celina Summers. The kindle version is $7.99. I actually ordered several paperbacks for gifts. I have already read mine front to back. I won't go in to detail because the book is worth every penny. I do not know this woman and have no affiliation with her or this book. Anybody that's a Vol fan needs to read it.

Here's an excerpt from UT mega-donor Alan Jones interview she has posted from the book.

SUMMERS: What did you think of Currie’s managerial style?

JONES: Well he was part of firing Phillip Fulmer and when you fire Phillip Fulmer you fired the cook for a bad hamburger that wasn’t his fault, ok? I could see through that right away. And have you figured out why they fired Phillip Fulmer?

SUMMERS: I have been sifting through that. I’ve heard a bunch of different stories.

JONES: Is Hamilton willing to talk to you?

SUMMERS: Have not heard. From what I understand there was a power play involved. That involved some boosters, some you know, like mega fans around the program.

JONES: That wanted rid of Fulmer? Well Celina, he called me, I guess ten years ago this week, or next week. When they fired him. My phone rang at 7 am in the morning. When Fulmer calls you at 7 am on Monday, I thought someone had died. I didn’t know what had happened. He told me he had been fired, and it was just devastating to me. And Janie (Jones’s wife), Janie and I, he wanted us to come there while he tells the team and Jane and I drove up there and it was…

I was in there but I felt like I shouldn’t have been in there. We were in the dressing room, and then we went to Phillip Fulmer’s house and he was a wonderful host. It’s like a funeral, and the body is walking around serving the food. It was an odd feeling. Because his whole life had been there (at UT) and I knew what had happened. I lived it. I saw it. I couldn’t get the aquatic center built; I can’t imagine needing some help with a student. Nobody to help. There’s no big toe on the foot.

SUMMERS: I live in Ohio and I watched that farewell press conference and I seriously had to question for a few weeks, especially after they hired Kiffin, it’s like, “Man, he (Fulmer) has been loyal to the school for forty years, I don’t know if I can support them after this.”

JONES: Phillip has a magnetic personality. He’s the warmest. He’s a girls’ Daddy.

SUMMERS: He’s a charmer.

JONES: If we hadn’t have fired him, he and Nick Saban would be the two biggest celebrities in football history right now, I’m pretty sure.

SUMMERS: I agree with that.

JONES: And he’d be going neck to neck with him.

SUMMERS: I think a lot of people would agree with you on that. What do you think about the vindication of Coach Fulmer? They fired him 2008 mid-season in a pretty classless move and then they have to turn to him last year to salvage the situation.

JONES: Exactly. There wasn’t one other person in this world that could’ve saved us but him.

SUMMERS: I agree. And I said that at the time. Like, as a story, what does that make you think about when you think about them bringing Coach Fulmer back?

JONES: Well, I mean I was rocking along with this thing and I did not care for Currie. But I had loaned them my plane. Kurt Gulbrand (associate UT athletic director) called. Do you know Kurt?

SUMMERS: No I don’t.

JONES: He’s an assistant AD. This is Sunday I guess, in November. It’s a winter day. I was taking a winter nap when Kurt Gulbrand called me at home and said. “I’ve talked to Bill. We’ve hired a coach, we need your plane.”

My plane was on charter and he wouldn’t tell me who it was—which, I didn’t ask. I’ve always respected their confidentiality. And he wouldn’t even tell me where they were going except it was two and a half hours away.

So finally I hung up and then finally I called him back and I said, “Wait a minute Kurt. Two and a half hours away in a Falcon 900? That’s the other side of Utah. I need to know about where it’s going.”

He said, “We’re going to Columbus, Ohio.”

So I called the plane up and they’d just left Philadelphia so they were in mid-air. I transferred that plane to Columbus, Ohio…I mean…I redirected it.

And then about fifteen minutes later, I get a call from Kurt and he says, “All hell is breaking loose. I’m not sure what to do. The students are lighting up the… they’re burning the dumpsters around the stadium and we’re planning to bring this coach back and announce it at 8 o’clock on Sunday night!”

And I said, “Why are you going to do something at 8 o’clock on Sunday night when no one’s paying attention?”

He said, “We were going to bring him back to the stadium but all hell is breaking loose.”

And I said, “Well you better ring John Currie.”

I’ll never forget this. He said, “Mr. Currie is in a real bad mood. I don’t want to call him and tell him.”

I said, “Oh, God.” I’d been asleep, but now I’m dealing with…

I said, “Look, you cannot allow that coach to come back here into a riot!”

And then he told me it was Greg Schiano. And remember, he hasn’t told me who it was. I don’t know how the word got out but in fifteen or twenty minutes, word had got out on the internet.

It’s a new world right now, you understand? Because whoever they hire, there’s a base out there that can respond in twenty minutes with a national voice on the internet. And I saw that happen.

So now I’ve got my plane entering into a major controversy with my name on the side and so I wasn’t sure what to do. I don’t pay attention to that. I didn’t know Schiano. I didn’t know why they (fans) were rioting. I had no idea but it got worse and worse and Kurt could not reach Currie at the time.

So then he called back and said he’d heard from Currie and they have a… no, let me correct that… they redirected it (the plane) in the air, that’s right. They redirected in the air from Philadelphia. It was going to Knoxville, to pick up a charter client and I redirected it to Columbus. He (Gulbrand) called back and said that they’d had a contract snag.

I said, “Well, I’m going to go redirect it back to Knoxville, pick up our client, take him. The flight’s going to Birmingham and then we can be on the ground in two and a half hours. He said, “That’s fine.”

So in the meantime, when all hell breaks loose and then he calls me back and says, “I don’t know what to do, they’re burning down the school.”

And I said, “You’ve got to call Mr. Currie.”

And he says, “I hate to call him. Mr. Currie’s in a real foul mood.”

And I said, “You’ve got to call him. You cannot allow…”

And he told me it was Schiano. I said, “Why are they rioting?”

And he said, “I think he’s a…”

What was it, a pedophile? I don’t know anything about it. I just know I was asleep and an hour later I’m in a big controversy with my airplane. I didn’t know if they were going to attack the plane once it landed, you know. So I was on the phone with Bill Lane like: “I gotta get out of this mess.”

Finally Curt called back and said, “I’ve found another plane that can pick us up a little quicker, is that okay?”

And I said, “Yes, but you gotta make sure he understands what he’s coming into.”

So Kurt called me back again and said, “The whole thing is off.”

And this is about five o’clock. Probably three hours had passed and I still didn’t get to go back to sleep *laughs*.

SUMMERS: Did you follow the uprising as it was going on online?

JONES: Well, no. I don’t do all that, but Bill Lane my chief financial officer did. He was watching it, and he was reporting it all to me, because I just don’t even know how to do that. You can tell I’m pretty technical but I don’t care to do that. I don’t care what people are saying.

SUMMERS: Social media is not your thing.

JONES: No, I don’t care about all that. Anyway, and then we get this fiasco going on. People from all over the country was calling… I have never seen a major university screw up so bad in my life.
 

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I'm not the one running my mouth about it. You said MOST was crap. Give an example of what you think is crap. I already told you I thought there was some exaggerating.

Ive seen very little blaming of Haslam and that was in the very beginning of this search. Is this search for an OC your example?

There's less grumbling about them because people have this odd belief that Phil is some anti-Haslam agent that told the Haslam's to stick it and that they weren't welcome. Here is the reality of the Haslam's and UTAD+HC.

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Everyone, and I mean everyone needs to read this written by Celina Summers. The kindle version is $7.99. I actually ordered several paperbacks for gifts. I have already read mine front to back. I won't go in to detail because the book is worth every penny. I do not know this woman and have no affiliation with her or this book. Anybody that's a Vol fan needs to read it.

Here's an excerpt from UT mega-donor Alan Jones interview she has posted from the book.

SUMMERS: What did you think of Currie’s managerial style?

JONES: Well he was part of firing Phillip Fulmer and when you fire Phillip Fulmer you fired the cook for a bad hamburger that wasn’t his fault, ok? I could see through that right away. And have you figured out why they fired Phillip Fulmer?

SUMMERS: I have been sifting through that. I’ve heard a bunch of different stories.

JONES: Is Hamilton willing to talk to you?

SUMMERS: Have not heard. From what I understand there was a power play involved. That involved some boosters, some you know, like mega fans around the program.

JONES: That wanted rid of Fulmer? Well Celina, he called me, I guess ten years ago this week, or next week. When they fired him. My phone rang at 7 am in the morning. When Fulmer calls you at 7 am on Monday, I thought someone had died. I didn’t know what had happened. He told me he had been fired, and it was just devastating to me. And Janie (Jones’s wife), Janie and I, he wanted us to come there while he tells the team and Jane and I drove up there and it was…

I was in there but I felt like I shouldn’t have been in there. We were in the dressing room, and then we went to Phillip Fulmer’s house and he was a wonderful host. It’s like a funeral, and the body is walking around serving the food. It was an odd feeling. Because his whole life had been there (at UT) and I knew what had happened. I lived it. I saw it. I couldn’t get the aquatic center built; I can’t imagine needing some help with a student. Nobody to help. There’s no big toe on the foot.

SUMMERS: I live in Ohio and I watched that farewell press conference and I seriously had to question for a few weeks, especially after they hired Kiffin, it’s like, “Man, he (Fulmer) has been loyal to the school for forty years, I don’t know if I can support them after this.”

JONES: Phillip has a magnetic personality. He’s the warmest. He’s a girls’ Daddy.

SUMMERS: He’s a charmer.

JONES: If we hadn’t have fired him, he and Nick Saban would be the two biggest celebrities in football history right now, I’m pretty sure.

SUMMERS: I agree with that.

JONES: And he’d be going neck to neck with him.

SUMMERS: I think a lot of people would agree with you on that. What do you think about the vindication of Coach Fulmer? They fired him 2008 mid-season in a pretty classless move and then they have to turn to him last year to salvage the situation.

JONES: Exactly. There wasn’t one other person in this world that could’ve saved us but him.

SUMMERS: I agree. And I said that at the time. Like, as a story, what does that make you think about when you think about them bringing Coach Fulmer back?

JONES: Well, I mean I was rocking along with this thing and I did not care for Currie. But I had loaned them my plane. Kurt Gulbrand (associate UT athletic director) called. Do you know Kurt?

SUMMERS: No I don’t.

JONES: He’s an assistant AD. This is Sunday I guess, in November. It’s a winter day. I was taking a winter nap when Kurt Gulbrand called me at home and said. “I’ve talked to Bill. We’ve hired a coach, we need your plane.”

My plane was on charter and he wouldn’t tell me who it was—which, I didn’t ask. I’ve always respected their confidentiality. And he wouldn’t even tell me where they were going except it was two and a half hours away.

So finally I hung up and then finally I called him back and I said, “Wait a minute Kurt. Two and a half hours away in a Falcon 900? That’s the other side of Utah. I need to know about where it’s going.”

He said, “We’re going to Columbus, Ohio.”

So I called the plane up and they’d just left Philadelphia so they were in mid-air. I transferred that plane to Columbus, Ohio…I mean…I redirected it.

And then about fifteen minutes later, I get a call from Kurt and he says, “All hell is breaking loose. I’m not sure what to do. The students are lighting up the… they’re burning the dumpsters around the stadium and we’re planning to bring this coach back and announce it at 8 o’clock on Sunday night!”

And I said, “Why are you going to do something at 8 o’clock on Sunday night when no one’s paying attention?”

He said, “We were going to bring him back to the stadium but all hell is breaking loose.”

And I said, “Well you better ring John Currie.”

I’ll never forget this. He said, “Mr. Currie is in a real bad mood. I don’t want to call him and tell him.”

I said, “Oh, God.” I’d been asleep, but now I’m dealing with…

I said, “Look, you cannot allow that coach to come back here into a riot!”

And then he told me it was Greg Schiano. And remember, he hasn’t told me who it was. I don’t know how the word got out but in fifteen or twenty minutes, word had got out on the internet.

It’s a new world right now, you understand? Because whoever they hire, there’s a base out there that can respond in twenty minutes with a national voice on the internet. And I saw that happen.

So now I’ve got my plane entering into a major controversy with my name on the side and so I wasn’t sure what to do. I don’t pay attention to that. I didn’t know Schiano. I didn’t know why they (fans) were rioting. I had no idea but it got worse and worse and Kurt could not reach Currie at the time.

So then he called back and said he’d heard from Currie and they have a… no, let me correct that… they redirected it (the plane) in the air, that’s right. They redirected in the air from Philadelphia. It was going to Knoxville, to pick up a charter client and I redirected it to Columbus. He (Gulbrand) called back and said that they’d had a contract snag.

I said, “Well, I’m going to go redirect it back to Knoxville, pick up our client, take him. The flight’s going to Birmingham and then we can be on the ground in two and a half hours. He said, “That’s fine.”

So in the meantime, when all hell breaks loose and then he calls me back and says, “I don’t know what to do, they’re burning down the school.”

And I said, “You’ve got to call Mr. Currie.”

And he says, “I hate to call him. Mr. Currie’s in a real foul mood.”

And I said, “You’ve got to call him. You cannot allow…”

And he told me it was Schiano. I said, “Why are they rioting?”

And he said, “I think he’s a…”

What was it, a pedophile? I don’t know anything about it. I just know I was asleep and an hour later I’m in a big controversy with my airplane. I didn’t know if they were going to attack the plane once it landed, you know. So I was on the phone with Bill Lane like: “I gotta get out of this mess.”

Finally Curt called back and said, “I’ve found another plane that can pick us up a little quicker, is that okay?”

And I said, “Yes, but you gotta make sure he understands what he’s coming into.”

So Kurt called me back again and said, “The whole thing is off.”

And this is about five o’clock. Probably three hours had passed and I still didn’t get to go back to sleep *laughs*.

SUMMERS: Did you follow the uprising as it was going on online?

JONES: Well, no. I don’t do all that, but Bill Lane my chief financial officer did. He was watching it, and he was reporting it all to me, because I just don’t even know how to do that. You can tell I’m pretty technical but I don’t care to do that. I don’t care what people are saying.

SUMMERS: Social media is not your thing.

JONES: No, I don’t care about all that. Anyway, and then we get this fiasco going on. People from all over the country was calling… I have never seen a major university screw up so bad in my life.
Here's what Jimmy said in an interview with the coauthor of the book Tom.

 
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Walk around campus and look at their names on things. The benefit to academics is massive. Therefore they will wield as much influence as they want for the most part. Though Big Jim is closing in on 90 and doesn't care as much about meddling as many on here would have you believe.

Big Jim has never been the problem.
 
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I tend to agree with Boca. The assertion by many fans is that the Haslams are screwing up everything for UT. I would ask for the actual proof that the Haslams are controlling the UTAD. The burden of proof should reside with the Haslam accusers.

Okay, I shouldn't have said prove it.

I don't see anyone blaming everything on the Haslems. It someone else does and thinks most of it is crap, I just ask for an exame of the crap so I have an idea of what they are talking about.

Want me to prove its not crap? Okay, what do you want me to prove is not crap. I'll try, but wasn't the one claiming anything was or wasn't.

Edit: Not that it matters but I've changed my mind. I haven't accused anyone of anything so I'm not proving anything. I just see someone saying most everything said about Haslam is crap and I don't think its too much to ask for an example.
 
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Everyone, and I mean everyone needs to read this written by Celina Summers. The kindle version is $7.99. I actually ordered several paperbacks for gifts. I have already read mine front to back. I won't go in to detail because the book is worth every penny. I do not know this woman and have no affiliation with her or this book. Anybody that's a Vol fan needs to read it.

Here's an excerpt from UT mega-donor Alan Jones interview she has posted from the book.

SUMMERS: What did you think of Currie’s managerial style?

JONES: Well he was part of firing Phillip Fulmer and when you fire Phillip Fulmer you fired the cook for a bad hamburger that wasn’t his fault, ok? I could see through that right away. And have you figured out why they fired Phillip Fulmer?

SUMMERS: I have been sifting through that. I’ve heard a bunch of different stories.

JONES: Is Hamilton willing to talk to you?

SUMMERS: Have not heard. From what I understand there was a power play involved. That involved some boosters, some you know, like mega fans around the program.

JONES: That wanted rid of Fulmer? Well Celina, he called me, I guess ten years ago this week, or next week. When they fired him. My phone rang at 7 am in the morning. When Fulmer calls you at 7 am on Monday, I thought someone had died. I didn’t know what had happened. He told me he had been fired, and it was just devastating to me. And Janie (Jones’s wife), Janie and I, he wanted us to come there while he tells the team and Jane and I drove up there and it was…

I was in there but I felt like I shouldn’t have been in there. We were in the dressing room, and then we went to Phillip Fulmer’s house and he was a wonderful host. It’s like a funeral, and the body is walking around serving the food. It was an odd feeling. Because his whole life had been there (at UT) and I knew what had happened. I lived it. I saw it. I couldn’t get the aquatic center built; I can’t imagine needing some help with a student. Nobody to help. There’s no big toe on the foot.

SUMMERS: I live in Ohio and I watched that farewell press conference and I seriously had to question for a few weeks, especially after they hired Kiffin, it’s like, “Man, he (Fulmer) has been loyal to the school for forty years, I don’t know if I can support them after this.”

JONES: Phillip has a magnetic personality. He’s the warmest. He’s a girls’ Daddy.

SUMMERS: He’s a charmer.

JONES: If we hadn’t have fired him, he and Nick Saban would be the two biggest celebrities in football history right now, I’m pretty sure.

SUMMERS: I agree with that.

JONES: And he’d be going neck to neck with him.

SUMMERS: I think a lot of people would agree with you on that. What do you think about the vindication of Coach Fulmer? They fired him 2008 mid-season in a pretty classless move and then they have to turn to him last year to salvage the situation.

JONES: Exactly. There wasn’t one other person in this world that could’ve saved us but him.

SUMMERS: I agree. And I said that at the time. Like, as a story, what does that make you think about when you think about them bringing Coach Fulmer back?

JONES: Well, I mean I was rocking along with this thing and I did not care for Currie. But I had loaned them my plane. Kurt Gulbrand (associate UT athletic director) called. Do you know Kurt?

SUMMERS: No I don’t.

JONES: He’s an assistant AD. This is Sunday I guess, in November. It’s a winter day. I was taking a winter nap when Kurt Gulbrand called me at home and said. “I’ve talked to Bill. We’ve hired a coach, we need your plane.”

My plane was on charter and he wouldn’t tell me who it was—which, I didn’t ask. I’ve always respected their confidentiality. And he wouldn’t even tell me where they were going except it was two and a half hours away.

So finally I hung up and then finally I called him back and I said, “Wait a minute Kurt. Two and a half hours away in a Falcon 900? That’s the other side of Utah. I need to know about where it’s going.”

He said, “We’re going to Columbus, Ohio.”

So I called the plane up and they’d just left Philadelphia so they were in mid-air. I transferred that plane to Columbus, Ohio…I mean…I redirected it.

And then about fifteen minutes later, I get a call from Kurt and he says, “All hell is breaking loose. I’m not sure what to do. The students are lighting up the… they’re burning the dumpsters around the stadium and we’re planning to bring this coach back and announce it at 8 o’clock on Sunday night!”

And I said, “Why are you going to do something at 8 o’clock on Sunday night when no one’s paying attention?”

He said, “We were going to bring him back to the stadium but all hell is breaking loose.”

And I said, “Well you better ring John Currie.”

I’ll never forget this. He said, “Mr. Currie is in a real bad mood. I don’t want to call him and tell him.”

I said, “Oh, God.” I’d been asleep, but now I’m dealing with…

I said, “Look, you cannot allow that coach to come back here into a riot!”

And then he told me it was Greg Schiano. And remember, he hasn’t told me who it was. I don’t know how the word got out but in fifteen or twenty minutes, word had got out on the internet.

It’s a new world right now, you understand? Because whoever they hire, there’s a base out there that can respond in twenty minutes with a national voice on the internet. And I saw that happen.

So now I’ve got my plane entering into a major controversy with my name on the side and so I wasn’t sure what to do. I don’t pay attention to that. I didn’t know Schiano. I didn’t know why they (fans) were rioting. I had no idea but it got worse and worse and Kurt could not reach Currie at the time.

So then he called back and said he’d heard from Currie and they have a… no, let me correct that… they redirected it (the plane) in the air, that’s right. They redirected in the air from Philadelphia. It was going to Knoxville, to pick up a charter client and I redirected it to Columbus. He (Gulbrand) called back and said that they’d had a contract snag.

I said, “Well, I’m going to go redirect it back to Knoxville, pick up our client, take him. The flight’s going to Birmingham and then we can be on the ground in two and a half hours. He said, “That’s fine.”

So in the meantime, when all hell breaks loose and then he calls me back and says, “I don’t know what to do, they’re burning down the school.”

And I said, “You’ve got to call Mr. Currie.”

And he says, “I hate to call him. Mr. Currie’s in a real foul mood.”

And I said, “You’ve got to call him. You cannot allow…”

And he told me it was Schiano. I said, “Why are they rioting?”

And he said, “I think he’s a…”

What was it, a pedophile? I don’t know anything about it. I just know I was asleep and an hour later I’m in a big controversy with my airplane. I didn’t know if they were going to attack the plane once it landed, you know. So I was on the phone with Bill Lane like: “I gotta get out of this mess.”

Finally Curt called back and said, “I’ve found another plane that can pick us up a little quicker, is that okay?”

And I said, “Yes, but you gotta make sure he understands what he’s coming into.”

So Kurt called me back again and said, “The whole thing is off.”

And this is about five o’clock. Probably three hours had passed and I still didn’t get to go back to sleep *laughs*.

SUMMERS: Did you follow the uprising as it was going on online?

JONES: Well, no. I don’t do all that, but Bill Lane my chief financial officer did. He was watching it, and he was reporting it all to me, because I just don’t even know how to do that. You can tell I’m pretty technical but I don’t care to do that. I don’t care what people are saying.

SUMMERS: Social media is not your thing.

JONES: No, I don’t care about all that. Anyway, and then we get this fiasco going on. People from all over the country was calling… I have never seen a major university screw up so bad in my life.

Sounds like an interesting read
 
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@Boca Vol Here's is more from her Alan Jones interview she has posted. Couldn't pull it so I screenshot it.
 

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Most of this "House of Haslam" crap you see and hear is just that. Yes, they donate a ton of money but blaming them for everything that's wrong with UT football is a cop-out for fans to attach blame.
Uh-oh. Take heart, because many of us agree with you.
 
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There's less grumbling about them because people have this odd belief that Phil is some anti-Haslam agent that told the Haslam's to stick it and that they weren't welcome. Here is the reality of the Haslam's and UTAD+HC.

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That's cool, but what am I supposed to get from those?

Is that an example of some of the crap, Phil being anti Haslam? If so, yea I said I guessed there was some exaggeration.

Ive never thought the Haslams were the devil and I've been clear about it during coaching searches, that I'm not very educated on that side of things. But again, ignorant as I may be on all of it, Im not sure most of everything said is 100% crap.

But whatever, this is VN where everybody knows everything and everyone. I have learned something from this discussion.
 
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Most of this "House of Haslam" crap you see and hear is just that. Yes, they donate a ton of money but blaming them for everything that's wrong with UT football is a cop-out for fans to attach blame.

Do not blame the father Jim Haslam. Blame it on son, Jimmy Haslam. Jim Haslam is one of the finest individuals in existence. He has donated more millions to the educational side of UT rather than the athletic side. He was torn to pieces when Jimmy and Pilot got caught in the rebate scheme. He turned to Pilot until it got straighten out.
 
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Jimmy was definitely meddling with the hiring of Schiano because we had a state senator that came out and flat out said he called her up and harassed her about how he runs the show at UT. This was shortly after Bill Haslam stating that his brother had nothing to do with any of the shenanigans. Very little goes on at UT on a major level without their consent.
 
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Jimmy was definitely meddling with the hiring of Schiano because we had a state senator that came out and flat out said he called her up and harassed her about how he runs the show at UT. This was shortly after Bill Haslam stating that his brother had nothing to do with any of the shenanigans. Very little goes on at UT on a major level without their consent.
Ding ding ding.
 
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