FULMER vs PRUITT decision....

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Bottom line is that they have sat on their butts and not gotten it done yet and we are one short recruiting during a very vital recruiting period and we also provided our opponents with more negative ammunition.
 
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Dougie_D said:
Here's what I really think is going on.

I think both Fulmer and Pruitt have to come to a mutual agreement on whoever is the next OC.

What's at RISK with Fulmer? --- if Pruitt fails then Fulmer fails and his "soon to be legacy as an AD is washed up"

What's at RISK with Pruitt? --- nothing really. He might be forced to resign or get fired, but he could easily get a DC job.

So this OC hire is more important to Fulmer IMO.

Here are the snags that might interfere though:

-Pruitt probably wants to keep everyone on his staff without pushing them out. So whoever comes here won't be able to bring in his own guys. I think this is one aspect where a lot of coaches might fail.
-the OC who is hired will want some type of "security" if things get slippery.
- so the 2nd year (pruitts 3rd year, that's when Pruitt will HAVE TO allow the OC to hire his own guys, forcing people out.
- If not, than it's an understanding that Pruitt resigns and gives the keys to the OC/Interim coach.
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Well Geezzze I am sure glad you cleared all this up for us idiots...…………...
Take another drink and relax....
You lost me when you couched it Pruitt vs. Fulmer...…..Why in the wide world of sports would they be against each other......
Get a life...……….

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Just speculating based on having made a selection that cant be announced.
1. Sark from Atlanta. Will need a new job when atl fires him. Can’t be announced until he gets his departing gift. He and Pruitt are friends from Bama. Sarks o fits Pruitt s philosophy. Not a big splash but ok.
2. Clemson has two OCs and we could use one. You don’t get arguments about bringing staff. Not a great philosophy fit. Medium large splash.
3. Briles at Huston. Still playing and is the only OC that said there is nothing going on with Tennessee. Splash Down side is he would want to bring staff. I would.
4. Wild card Randy Sanders ETSU. His offense fits Pruitt’s philosophy. There are people that won’t like Randy but he was schooled by Cut and some other great minds at FSU.
 
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Other_Guy said:
Why do people keep saying Fulmer will be a failure if Pruitt fails? I mean seriously, how many options did he have at that point? I would rather gamble with the unknown then find a Butch 2.0
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Agreed. If Pruitt doesn’t work out we should still give Fulmer the benefit of choosing the replacement. After all, Fulmer only had a few days to make the hire. It was very rushed.

With that said, I still want Pruitt to be the guy. I want him to be the one to pull us out of this mess. All he has to do is improve every season in order to buy more time. I’m just frustrated that we don’t have much to hang our hat on for him. For the Auburn win there’s the Mizz loss. For the UK win we lose in terrible fashion to Vandy. Those are hard to defend.
 
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I honestly think that he has his guy and is waiting out of respect until after bowl season. But then again I also don’t know jack, just spitballing.
 
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Bucket18 said:
I dont think Pruitt wants to fail and just return to being a dc for the remainder of his career. Its much more than money to them. I think Mathews knows and has
been told by Fulmer what to release. They have made a hire and think its a big splash. The splash want go public until ??? date for his reason. Be patient.

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If they had a big hire it would have been announced for ESD. It has occurred to me that there is a tiny sliver of a chance that they are telling the prospects who it is today before recruiting weekend ends and then there will be an official announcement tomorrow. Unlikely, but possible.
 
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vols-1 said:
Maybe it's best to sign a one-and-done OC for next year. That gives Pruitt a year to stabilize the offense and work on a long term solution.
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Long term solution is replacing Pruitt if the offense isn't a lot better by 2020. He knows that. Has to figure out a way to be a 4-5 win team in conference within 2 more seasons or he gone
 
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Nobody knows anything except for Fulmer and Pruitt.

It's the holiday season so relax, eat, drink, wait for the announcement and send me all your extra money because I'm flat broke, LOL!

We'll learn what's going on whenever Pruitt wants to tell us and not before.

Go coaches...reel in some more top recruits!!!

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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Dougie_D said:
Here's what I really think is going on.

I think both Fulmer and Pruitt have to come to a mutual agreement on whoever is the next OC.

What's at RISK with Fulmer? --- if Pruitt fails then Fulmer fails and his "soon to be legacy as an AD is washed up"

What's at RISK with Pruitt? --- nothing really. He might be forced to resign or get fired, but he could easily get a DC job.

So this OC hire is more important to Fulmer IMO.

Here are the snags that might interfere though:

-Pruitt probably wants to keep everyone on his staff without pushing them out. So whoever comes here won't be able to bring in his own guys. I think this is one aspect where a lot of coaches might fail.
-the OC who is hired will want some type of "security" if things get slippery.
- so the 2nd year (pruitts 3rd year, that's when Pruitt will HAVE TO allow the OC to hire his own guys, forcing people out.
- If not, than it's an understanding that Pruitt resigns and gives the keys to the OC/Interim coach.
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Who's on First?
 
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th.jpg In order to land a top-notch OC, we need to sweeten our offer by presenting him with the Butch Jones "Five-Star Heart Medal". Complete with stars, marching band sheet music, and a ribbon with four bands, representing Butch's four wins in his last year at Tennessee, this could just land our guy.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Long term solution is replacing Pruitt if the offense isn't a lot better by 2020. He knows that. Has to figure out a way to be a 4-5 win team in conference within 2 more seasons or he gone
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That's not a long term solution. That's hurry up and give it to me now short term mess. Patience is what is needed. At a minimum he should finish his contract.
 
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UT_Dutchman said:
To me the time table is not as important as a respectable hire. Jmo
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Until proven otherwise, nothing really respectable has happen to Tennessee football in awhile. The only thing mildly interesting is waiting to read the latest Tennessee jokes. I am sure posters on the Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina boards are fighting each other for any copyright claims.
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
I think the only thing that can be said with certainty is no program steps on it's own d**k more than UT when it comes to coaching searches.
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Pretty hard to do when they need the hubble telescope to see it. But they manage.
 
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TVA said:
Not wanting to let friends go was a major reason for CPF's fall and firing. CJP has the perfect object lesson right there in front of him. If you want a top OC you will have to let them pick their own assistants.
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Friendships were just a drop in the bucket. They made a bunch of really poor recruiting decisions and had poor oversight in team discipline. That is why they have the Fulmer Cup. Too bad you and a couple of like minded guys were not a part of the Christmas story. Instead of the three wise men, it would have been the three wise guys. Not the same thing.
 
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NEVolFan said:
The new OC is still coaching and will be announced promptly after their bowl game... the guys name is @^&%^$#~! Soon.
I don't do rumors... I have a source.
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I think that makes perfect sense. If a guy is coaching in a bowl game why put any extra pressure on that guy and the team he's trying to coach. What difference does a couple of weeks make; better to get the hire you want. Look at Pruitt for example, hired for the HC job at TN but still had to coach the Bama guys through the playoffs, etc. Makes perfect sense to me to wait until after that guys bowl game.
 
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Dougie_D said:
Here's what I really think is going on.

I think both Fulmer and Pruitt have to come to a mutual agreement on whoever is the next OC.

What's at RISK with Fulmer? --- if Pruitt fails then Fulmer fails and his "soon to be legacy as an AD is washed up"

What's at RISK with Pruitt? --- nothing really. He might be forced to resign or get fired, but he could easily get a DC job.

So this OC hire is more important to Fulmer IMO.

Here are the snags that might interfere though:

-Pruitt probably wants to keep everyone on his staff without pushing them out. So whoever comes here won't be able to bring in his own guys. I think this is one aspect where a lot of coaches might fail.
-the OC who is hired will want some type of "security" if things get slippery.
- so the 2nd year (pruitts 3rd year, that's when Pruitt will HAVE TO allow the OC to hire his own guys, forcing people out.
- If not, than it's an understanding that Pruitt resigns and gives the keys to the OC/Interim coach.
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You lost me when you said Pruitt really had nothing to lose, because he could get a DC job somewhere else. Did you ever stop and think that he wants to be a head coach and not a DC? No one ever wants to take a step back in their profession!
 
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GulfCoasterVol said:
why is it Fulmer Vs Pruitt ??????????
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On whom to blame most when it all falls apart. Don't blame me, I didn't write the OP, I am just trying to translate it so you might understand it. Sorry if the one nine letter word confuses you.
 
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Other_Guy said:
Why do people keep saying Fulmer will be a failure if Pruitt fails? I mean seriously, how many options did he have at that point? I would rather gamble with the unknown then find a Butch 2.0
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Because it's been reported that Fulmer blocked Leach/got Currie fired/and he is the one who hired Pruitt, a completely unproven commodity.
 
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