Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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Draft rules wrt to Sapp. Sounds like he can still play as long as he's not drafted.

12.2.4 Draft and Inquiry.
12.2.4.1 Inquiry. An individual may inquire of a professional sports organization about eligibility for a professional-league player draft or request information about the individual’s market value without affecting his or her amateur status.
12.2.4.2 Draft List. After initial full-time collegiate enrollment, an individual loses amateur status in a particular sport when the individual asks to be placed on the draft list or supplemental draft list of a professional league in that sport, even though: (Revised: 4/25/02 effective 8/1/02)
(a) The individual asks that his or her name be withdrawn from the draft list prior to the actual draft;
(b) The individual’s name remains on the list but he or she is not drafted; or
(c) The individual is drafted but does not sign an agreement with any professional athletics team.

12.2.4.2.3 Exception—Football. [FBS/FCS] In football, an enrolled student-athlete (as opposed to a prospective student-athlete) may enter the National Football League draft one time during his collegiate career without jeopardizing eligibility in that sport, provided the student-athlete is not drafted by any team in that league and the student-athlete declares his intention to resume intercollegiate participation within 72 hours following the National Football League draft declaration date. The student-athlete’s declaration of intent shall be in writing to the institution’s director of athletics. (Adopted: 10/31/02, Revised: 4/14/03,
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SmokinBob said:
This is a small excerpt from The Athletic-Ubben interview with Tyson (Great Article - Ubben is real reporter and The Athletic is well-worth the subscription price!). Mods, delete if inappropriate:
How would you describe your year at Tennessee?
Invaluable. Invaluable. I loved every minute of it. Working for Coach Pruitt was unbelievable. He is truly the best football mind I’ve ever been around. A lot of people say how good of a defensive coach he is, but he’s just a really good football coach. He can walk into any room, any position room, offense, defense, special teams, and be able to bring a tremendous wealth of knowledge. I truly valued that.

And I loved during the season, because obviously we had a young team. We were trying to develop a team, but he was always able to come into an offensive staff room and be able to work with you and say, ‘OK, here’s how you can attack this defense in this way. This is their weaknesses.’ As an offensive coach, you do that, too, but he brings a new perspective of here’s why they’re doing what they’re trying to do. I just gained a tremendous wealth of knowledge. It’s something I will carry with me throughout my time here as well.

Did you ever feel restrained, in terms of what you wanted to do vs. what Jeremy wanted to do at Tennessee?
No, not necessarily. I’ve always viewed — I’m a chain-of-command guy. I believe you take on the vision of your head football coach. When I accepted this job at the University of Tennessee, I knew I wanted to work for Jeremy Pruitt. I knew Coach Pruitt and his style and what he wanted to do. I was willing to accept that, you know, and I followed that plan. He was great, too, about allowing me to do what I needed to do to try and be successful. But I’ve always said that you get the head football coach tag because you’re the guy in charge. And the people that work underneath you, they need to follow your plan. That’s why I think he’s going to be a great head coach. He had to do a lot of things this year to try and make it better for the following years, and I think that the University of Tennessee will reap those rewards as they move forward.
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thanks for posting that.
 
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LynxVol said:
Disagree. In terms of responsibility, among other things, going from a OC to a HC is not a lateral move. I wouldn't say exposure is the key factor, and I don't think pay is in this case. Guess I'll agree to disagree on this point.
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Fair enough. We're looking at it through different lenses. You've got a good point though.
 
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appyvol said:
Lol that's exactly what it says.
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12.2.4.2.3 Exception—Football. [FBS/FCS] In football, an enrolled student-athlete (as opposed to a prospective student-athlete) may enter the National Football League draft one time during his collegiate career without jeopardizing eligibility in that sport, provided the student-athlete is not drafted by any team in that league and the student-athlete declares his intention to resume intercollegiate participation within 72 hours following the National Football League draft declaration date. The student-athlete’s declaration of intent shall be in writing to the institution’s director of athletics. (Adopted: 10/31/02, Revised: 4/14/03,
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LynxVol said:
Disagree. In terms of responsibility, among other things, going from a OC to a HC is not a lateral move. I wouldn't say exposure is the key factor, and I don't think pay is in this case. Guess I'll agree to disagree on this point.
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I would say that going to Western Kentucky from Tennessee (OC to head coach) is similar to Lane going from OC at Bama to FAU as head coach.
 
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SLICKYINC said:
Lulz, no. No it doesn’t.

“an individual loses amateur status in a particular sport when the individual asks to be placed on the draft list”
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If I am reading this correct their amateur status is reinstated if they submit the writing when not drafted

That make any sense ?


Edit: this is wrong
 
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appyvol said:
12.2.4.2.3 Exception—Football. [FBS/FCS] In football, an enrolled student-athlete (as opposed to a prospective student-athlete) may enter the National Football League draft one time during his collegiate career without jeopardizing eligibility in that sport, provided the student-athlete is not drafted by any team in that league and the student-athlete declares his intention to resume intercollegiate participation within 72 hours following the National Football League draft declaration date. The student-athlete’s declaration of intent shall be in writing to the institution’s director of athletics. (Adopted: 10/31/02, Revised: 4/14/03,
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I swear it looks like the player is allowed to declare but has to change his mind within 72 hours of DECLARING and not be drafted within that time but that doesn't even make sense does it?
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and the student-athlete declares his intention to resume intercollegiate participation within 72 hours following the National Football League draft declaration date.
 
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chargervol said:
I swear it looks like the player is allowed to declare but has to change his mind within 72 hours of DECLARING and not be drafted within that time but that doesn't even make sense does it?
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and the student-athlete declares his intention to resume intercollegiate participation within 72 hours following the National Football League draft declaration date.
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Bingo Jan 10th or 11th.
 
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BruinVol said:
It says following the draft
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and the student-athlete declares his intention to resume intercollegiate participation within 72 hours following the National Football League draft *declaration date.

don't know enough about it to debate but if so, that's the most poorly worded document history. Because it definitely says draft declaration date.
 
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chargervol said:
and the student-athlete declares his intention to resume intercollegiate participation within 72 hours following the National Football League draft *declaration date.

don't know enough about it to debate but if so, that's the most poorly worded document history. Because it definitely says draft declaration date.
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He can still change his mind but it isn't lomg
 
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SLICKYINC said:
Lulz, no. No it doesn’t.

“an individual loses amateur status in a particular sport when the individual asks to be placed on the draft list”
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Amateur status is lost in all NCAA sports except football. They have the exemption. As long as the player has not hired an agent or signed (can even be drafted and decides against going to the league), then he still retains his NCAA eligibility.
 
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utvolmaniac said:
Amateur status is lost in all NCAA sports except football. They have the exemption. As long as the player has not hired an agent or signed (can even be drafted and decides against going to the league), then he still retains his NCAA eligibility.
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Basketball has similar exception
 
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utvolmaniac said:
Amateur status is lost in all NCAA sports except football. They have the exemption. As long as the player has not hired an agent or signed (can even be drafted and decides against going to the league), then he still retains his NCAA eligibility.
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I think it was cleared up a few post ago..
 
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