Former player for Eliah Drinkwitz discusses the search

#27
#27
If you want to run uptempo, like Jones wanted to do, you might want to have a strong defense with good depth. Otherwise time of possession is gonna suck like the Vandy (Missouri?) game. TN doesn't have the D yet to even consider it right now IMO.
 
#31
#31
ACvol3 said:
What won in 98 won't win now. You have to evolve.
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Still a lot of teams that run Pro style and do just fine. I tend to like power spread like Auburn runs because it pretty much is still the I formation with some wing T influence. Definitely think when you are running out of gun you have to take advantage of RPOs though
 
#33
#33
Funny how Vol fans including myself are so accustomed to having an offense that can't adjust to personnel or be multiple and have the ability to spread it out and pass or run when they need to run.

I just can't see Pruitt and Fulmer signing off on a pass first OC.
 
#35
#35
ACvol3 said:
What won in 98 won't win now. You have to evolve.
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Your right. Just look at Saban. He is not affraid to take a chance on the OC. Kiffin. Steve Sark. probaly Freeze. But since Saban does it. The media says that is a smart guy, ahead of his time.
 
#36
#36
don't remember Coach Pruitt ever saying he wanted five wide and uptempo

GO VOLS...RECRUIT LIKE HECK!
 
#38
#38
Nope we don't ever need that speed game again serves no purpose unless you three deep on defense or like winning or losing 50 to 49 games.
 
#40
#40
Volman365 said:
You dont want Freeze then, not even close to smashmouth.
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That’s my concern with Freeze. I’ve followed his teams closely over the years and honestly his offensive style is similar to that of Butch Jones. The only noticeable difference is how they use WRs. Freeze leans heavily on his better receivers and pushes the ball downfield more.

Their running games are indistinguishable
 
#42
#42
nomads-11 said:
If you want to run uptempo, like Jones wanted to do, you might want to have a strong defense with good depth. Otherwise time of possession is gonna suck like the Vandy (Missouri?) game. TN doesn't have the D yet to even consider it right now IMO.
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Or you can be like Oklahoma, just outscore everyone. Will it work in sec, well probably not against Bama, ga. But problem against most of the other teams. Only problem is we could turn into ole miss, no defense at all, worse than ours if possible. Maybe we could have beaten vandy . That would be a start. Don’t knock an offense just because butch jones wasn’t successful using it.
 
#43
#43
Those offenses will work with a strong D and a QB that can tuck the ball and run to make their D pay for leaving him open , see J Hurts or J Dobbs . If you look at our QBs and the QBs coming in , we don’t have anybody close to being able to do that .
 
#44
#44
k-town_king said:
Sounds better than than slow em down 60/40 run pass like this year. It doesn't win.

And before anyone says Bama they passed more than ran the first half. They run it when the passing game has already put them up.
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It does if you have the pieces to do that. Bama can do either now.
 
#45
#45
vettefool said:
Or you can be like Oklahoma, just outscore everyone. Will it work in sec, well probably not against Bama, ga. But problem against most of the other teams. Only problem is we could turn into ole miss, no defense at all, worse than ours if possible. Maybe we could have beaten vandy . That would be a start. Don’t knock an offense just because butch jones wasn’t successful using it.
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Certainly not knocking his offense, it worked before, just not here. The offense at Georgia Tech works too. It will certainly beat teams, it just not going to take you to the big stage. In the SEC we play GA and AL each year, so I'm of the mind we need and offense that can compete with them, and a play caller/coordinator that can run it. Personally I'm more interested in how an O performs against the better conference teams than Vandy. Beat the former and you'll probably fair well against the latter. Jones had a losing record against Vandy, and Helton already started on the wrong foot. Anyway, we'll see what the future holds.
 
#46
#46
Not enough QB's on the roster to go 5 wide much. Most would be in body cast's.
 
#47
#47
BeecherVol said:
It does if you have the pieces to do that. Bama can do either now.
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Then why did they move to a pass heavy attack if they can do both?

It works better. Its what wins now.

They pass more than run when the game is still undecided. There is a reason they pass more than run. It is what works. trying to win 24-14 running the ball is a recipe for disaster.
 
#48
#48
k-town_king said:
Then why did they move to a pass heavy attack if they can do both?

It works better. Its what wins now.

They pass more than run when the game is still undecided. There is a reason they pass more than run. It is what works. trying to win 24-14 running the ball is a recipe for disaster.
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I don't know that they did. Being more efficient because Tua is a better passer than anyone Saban has had doesn't necessarily mean they have moved to a more pass heavy offense. He's just a lot more efficient than his previous QBs. That 160 yrds and 5.5 a carry come in handy Saturday.

If they have moved to a more pass heavy attack do you think that had anything to do with having a better QB? If Saban had Keller Chryst as his QB is he moving to pass heavy attack because everybody says 24-14 (or run heavy/defense type) is a recipe for disaster.

The pieces matter. That was my point.
 
#49
#49
BeecherVol said:
I don't know that they did. Being more efficient because Tua is a better passer than anyone Saban has had doesn't necessarily mean they have moved to a more pass heavy offense. He's just a lot more efficient than his previous QBs. That 160 yrds and 5.5 a carry come in handy Saturday.

If they have moved to a more pass heavy attack do you think that had anything to do with having a better QB? If Saban had Keller Chryst as his QB is he moving to pass heavy attack because everybody says 24-14 (or run heavy/defense type) is a recipe for disaster.

The pieces matter. That was my point.
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Tua is a better passer. If you think running is such a big factor he might be close in overall play. Your run game is much stronger with Hurts. He went with Tua because they thought having a better passing game was more important.

With a capable qb and running game they have decided to throw more than run. I think that is what wins. Around a 54/46 split.
 
#50
#50
k-town_king said:
Tua is a better passer. If you think running is such a big factor he might be close in overall play. Your run game is much stronger with Hurts. He went with Tua because they thought having a better passing game was more important.

With a capable qb and running game they have decided to throw more than run. I think that is what wins. Around a 54/46 split.
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My math may be off,
but it appears they are 58/42 run through Saturday.
Historically at Bama, Saban has been right around 60/40 run.

He's been as high as 65/35 run and as low as 56/44. Im sure OC's/QB's/RB's/ and OL's in different seasons contributed to the number ranges.
 
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