Interesting Interview by a QB coach on Guarantano

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VolsGrad1989 said:
It will be proven who is clueless. And, that person will be you! JG will not be starting at UT or any other high end Power 5 school no later than mid November of 2019!!!
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You said that before and during the season. No matter how many times you say it, it won't happen.

Stick to whatever your day job is. You obviously are clueless when it comes to football talent evaluation.
 
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awaitingawin said:
Its according to what you call open. Some QB's see a target as open as long as the defender isn't in the targets face. Some qbs only see the target as open if they are several yards in the clear. By the way, how many passes did JG throw over the MIDDLE. Yeah thats right. Guess why. Those off target and over the head passes would be intercepted. Good QB's throw the ball to a spot. Its up to the target to be there.
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But wouldn't that make the throw a 50/50 ball?🤔 isnt that exactly what JG does when he throws it to his guys to make a play on it?
 
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k-town_king said:
We won those games 59-3 and 24-0. What are you talking about. You are complaining about his quarterbacking in two games we won literally 83-3.

You are not making a valid point. We averaged 41.5 points in the two game and he went 20/29 for 322 11 ypa and over 160 rating each game.

So yes those stats did translate to points. OUR COACHING PHILOSOPHY FAVORS RUNS IN THE REDZONE. The runningbacks scored on drives he lead.

Your insistence on using two games we won 83-3 and he averaged about a 175 rating and over 11 ypa shows your lack of understanding.
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Against ETSU and UTEP, a top 5 SEC QB would have slung 4-5 touchdowns in the first half and never taken another snap, but that's not the kind of play we saw from JG all season. His YPA of 7.75 puts him with 50 other QBs who have YPAs between 7-8 yards at the end of the season, and his completion percentage at 62.2, has him at 47th in the nation. Considering the fact that he was 81st in total passing yards, and tied for 85th in passing TDs, his performance was pedestrian at best, even behind a crappy oline.

Your fantasy that he's a top 5 SEC QB, with zero chance of being displaced in 2019, is all in your head..
 
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I just do not see how you can grade a QB with an OL line we had. The first year CBJ became coach for the vols I posted time after time recruit big time offensive lineman, but would only get what was left. JG just does not look like a QB but I guess that really doesn’t matter if he can play. I thought he went to Payton Manning camp last summer. Did they not teach him fundamentals? What does that QB camp teach?
 
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BeardedVol said:
Against ETSU and UTEP, a top 5 SEC QB would have slung 4-5 touchdowns in the first half and never taken another snap, but that's not the kind of play we saw from JG all season. His YPA of 7.75 puts him with 50 other QBs who have YPAs between 7-8 yards at the end of the season, and his completion percentage at 62.2, has him at 47th in the nation. Considering the fact that he was 81st in total passing yards, and tied for 85th in passing TDs, his performance was pedestrian at best, even behind a crappy oline.

Your fantasy that he's a top 5 SEC QB, with zero chance of being displaced in 2019, is all in your head..
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Keep moving those goalposts. You complained a about lack of passing tds in two specific games. We won them 83-3. He was over 11 ypa and a 69% completion percentage in the two games you were talking about.

We weren't talking about the whole year. If you want to we can.

Any sane coach would be happy to have a returning starter who threw at least one td in each full game played, completed 62% plus, had over a 140 rating, and had a 4/1 td/int ratio against an SEC schedule. That is why he will start no question about it.

Keep on acting like those aren't good numbers for a first year starter in the SEC. Especially with the terrible line play and lack of speed at wideout.
 
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btate said:
I just do not see how you can grade a QB with an OL line we had. The first year CBJ became coach for the vols I posted time after time recruit big time offensive lineman, but would only get what was left. JG just does not look like a QB but I guess that really doesn’t matter if he can play. I thought he went to Payton Manning camp last summer. Did they not teach him fundamentals? What does that QB camp teach?
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Sam Ehlinger at Texas was sacked 23 times, same as JG, still threw for 23 TDs, 8.4 YPA, and only 4 INTs, while rushing for 11 TDs. JG's issues are not all at the feet of the offensive line.
 
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btate said:
I just do not see how you can grade a QB with an OL line we had. The first year CBJ became coach for the vols I posted time after time recruit big time offensive lineman, but would only get what was left. JG just does not look like a QB but I guess that really doesn’t matter if he can play. I thought he went to Payton Manning camp last summer. Did they not teach him fundamentals? What does that QB camp teach?
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What does a qb look like?
 
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BeardedVol said:
Against ETSU and UTEP, a top 5 SEC QB would have slung 4-5 touchdowns in the first half and never taken another snap, but that's not the kind of play we saw from JG all season. His YPA of 7.75 puts him with 50 other QBs who have YPAs between 7-8 yards at the end of the season, and his completion percentage at 62.2, has him at 47th in the nation. Considering the fact that he was 81st in total passing yards, and tied for 85th in passing TDs, his performance was pedestrian at best, even behind a crappy oline.

Your fantasy that he's a top 5 SEC QB, with zero chance of being displaced in 2019, is all in your head..
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Just silly.

Against ETSU and UTEP, the game plan was not to sling it all over the place. The game plan was to work on the run. The coaches see a bigger picture than you do. I'll support my argument with evidence.

Notice passing attempts vs rushing attempts. Also, notice how many time Guarantano actually even attempted passes.
 

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awaitingawin said:
Its according to what you call open. Some QB's see a target as open as long as the defender isn't in the targets face. Some qbs only see the target as open if they are several yards in the clear. By the way, how many passes did JG throw over the MIDDLE. Yeah thats right. Guess why. Those off target and over the head passes would be intercepted. Good QB's throw the ball to a spot. Its up to the target to be there.
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JG can't throw over the middle? What have you been watching?

This is taken from an article from The Athletic looking at advanced stats. Written prior to the South Carolina game:
 

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Evergrenevol said:
I’m not familiar with this QB coach, but I think he does a good job of summing up his limited observations of JG.
- He saw JG play at a camp between his junior and senior year and felt he was very talented for a hs QB entering his senior year
- He paused, then in a “politically correct” fashion, added that he thought JG hasn’t developed like he thought he would while at Tennessee...


There’s been an onslaught of commentary from all of us on JG, so I’m not going to regurgitate those comments again.

This post is about hiring a good OC. I think we should hire an Offensive Coordinator who excels in QB coaching. You hire an OC with Cutcliffe’s or Kiffin’s skills, it would make a difference. I do know that Helton wasn’t good at it. I’ve been shocked at his inability to teach and instill basic QB fundamentals.

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How obnoxiously loud and overbearing that girl is.
 
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Orange Swagger said:
The read and calling protection is pre snap, going through the progression of receivers is after the snap. JG is not not good at either. He holds the ball way too long.
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Did you watch how many times the RB, TE, Tackle block the same guy and let someone blast Guarantano before he even made his drop? A QB makes his reads and protection pre-snap, but the OL and RB have to make the right blocks to give the QB the chance to go through his progressions. I think people are too hard on Guarantano.
 
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I hear KC is coming back for a sixth year, NCAA made concessions and allowed for a waiver after seeing UT QB play this year.
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
If Shrout was that good he'd have pushed for time this year.
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Right. its funny that they think a guy who started one year in high school when he had 26ints with 51% passing and that couldn't even sniff the qb competition due to accuracy and decision making is going to magically be a great qb and pass up the starter who never turns the ball over and is very accurate.
 
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An off season and a new OC should tell us that almost anything is possible and no one is a locked into their position....
 
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VOLnMiami said:
You've been wrong since day one...but keep believing your boy is an SEC caliber QB...He wouldn't even start at Vanderbilt
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Just like you said Dobbs was a runningback playing qb, not an SEC qb, won't get drafted. Right?

Do you mean not an ALL SEC qb? I'm trying to help you not sound so stupid. I mean he already won two top 25 SEC games and finished in the top half of most categories in the SEC. Or does an SEC qb have to be in the top 5 of every stat? So most qbs that play in the SEC aren't "SEC QBs" by you evaluation then?

If he and Shurmur came the same year he would. he would next year. He would have started over at least half the qbs in the SEC this year.
 
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k-town_king said:
Just like you said Dobbs was a runningback playing qb, not an SEC qb, won't get drafted. Right?

Do you mean not an ALL SEC qb? I'm trying to help you not sound so stupid. I mean he already won two top 25 SEC games and finished in the top half of most categories in the SEC. Or does an SEC qb have to be in the top 5 of every stat? So most qbs that play in the SEC aren't "SEC QBs" by you evaluation then?

If he and Shurmur came the same year he would. he would next year. He would have started over at least half the qbs in the SEC this year.
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I completely stopped watching this interview once the guy said, "I think he moves well in the pocket." Lost any credibility with that sentence.

That LITERALLY is probably Guarantano's biggest weakness and could be his downfall. His feel of pressure and how he hardly EVEN moves away from pressure in the pocket is very poor and even the KG fans will admit that.

So hilarious. You can't make this stuff up.
 
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k-town_king said:
Just like you said Dobbs was a runningback playing qb, not an SEC qb, won't get drafted. Right?

Do you mean not an ALL SEC qb? I'm trying to help you not sound so stupid. I mean he already won two top 25 SEC games and finished in the top half of most categories in the SEC. Or does an SEC qb have to be in the top 5 of every stat? So most qbs that play in the SEC aren't "SEC QBs" by you evaluation then?

If he and Shurmur came the same year he would. he would next year. He would have started over at least half the qbs in the SEC this year.
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Wow...Talk about an ignorant statement...I'll just leave this here.
 
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