Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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There will be hot boards everywhere (including one here) but I don't think anything is going to happen quickly with this OC search.

Hugh Freeze is a candidate and there's mutual interest there, but folks in Tennessee's administration and SEC would have to green-light the move to make it happen.

I've been texted Josh Niblett's name a couple times. I don't see it with the Hoover HC. But Niblett does have strong connections to Pruitt. Freddie Kitchens also has ties to Pruitt but the Browns new OC has called plays for all of 3-4 games in his entire career. He was a college position coach until 2005 when he moved on the NFL to be a position coach (mostly RBs) until Hue Jackson and Todd Haley were fired.

Dan Enos is an interesting name. He's developed Tua well this year and has experience calling plays in the SEC.

Finally, I wouldn't rule out Tennessee simply making a few promotions from within, starting with Will Friend. There's a couple different avenues to take there, but John Lilly and Joe Osovet are options to be made on-field staffers. Those moves would likely dictate changing roles for Brian Niedermeyer and Chris Weinke. Just something else to consider.
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HankHill said:
Same people that told me Helton was leaving a month ago. Just passing you guys names i hear. Mac, Enos, Lindsey, freeze, Tony Franklin are the names I’ve heard. Could mean something could no.

Mac actually intrigued me his HC experience could help Pruitt too.
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Would Enos bring Tua with him?
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Are you aware if Helton had language in his contract to eliminate the buyout for a upward move?
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I've only seen the MOU. The legal teams for both parties have boilerplate clauses that they insert and each side agrees to strike certain clauses during negotiation. The executed contract could include a clause waiving the buyout if Helton accepted a HC position at another institution within a specified amount of time. Legal likes to strike such clauses when there is leverage to do so, but UT made a lot of concessions last year. I could call and find out, but it doesn't matter-- given the circumstances, UT will likely waive any applicable buyout.
 
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NMVol said:
So it begins. Deflect responsibility to the OC, deflect responsibility to the O-Line coach, deflect responsibility to the players. Not a good look either.
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Helton is leaving on his own. How is that deflecting anything. Pruitt has said a number of times he is ultimately responsible and has to get better so we can get better.
 
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Someone will hire Hugh Freeze and someone will get a good OC because of it. Not worried about negative recruiting.
 
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butchna said:
“Reported” by LAVol...😉 That was off the “1/3 of their remaining” blanket language that included Sherrer, Friend and Fitz...you saying they all have the same exact contract? That was “reported” as part of their standard contract but it doesn’t include leaving to be HC...never does. It’s a protection against them making a lateral move. Call it an “exception” if you wish when there’s no buyout “reported”. I still can’t reconcile this thinking that you’re more likely to lock in someone you threw money at to pry them away because they were in LESS demand.
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I don’t know if Helton’s contract is the same as Fitz’s, but from the 247 report it sounded like their buyouts worked the same way.

I’m just saying all of this is negotiable on a case-by-case basis. And I’m saying the conversation could easily have gone something like this:

Pruitt/UT: “I want you as OC.”
Helton: “OK, but I like it here with Clay and I think I’m awesome. You’re going to have to pay me like a top-5 coordinator.”
Pruitt/UT: “OK, I mean we want you, so we’re open to paying you, but you’ve never even called plays before. $1.2M is pretty steep.”
Helton: “Oh, and you have to guarantee me 3 years of that salary.”
Pruitt/UT: “Good gracious alive. OK. If we’re going to take that kind of risk on you, though, we need to be able to reap the reward, so you can’t just leave after one year.”
Helton: “OK.”
 
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LA Vol said:
I've only seen the MOU. The legal teams for both parties have boilerplate clauses that they insert and each side agrees to strike certain clauses during negotiation. The executed contract could include a clause waiving the buyout if Helton accepted a HC position at another institution within a specified amount of time. Legal likes to strike such clauses when there is leverage to do so, but UT made a lot of concessions last year. I could call and find out, but it doesn't matter-- given the circumstances, UT will likely waive any applicable buyout.
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I was just curious. Thanks.
 
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