Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[engineerVOL]

Don’t let Fulmer hear...

Minutes later, he strolls into Pruitt’s office, cigar hanging out the mouth, the Beer Barrel tucked under his arm, and whistle around his neck...

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[Vols4us]

A fast paced, effective spread offense paired with a D that gives up less than 25 points per game is the formula for competing for championships while the roster is being retooled. That puts the D in the top 50 in points allowed. If the O makes it to the top 50 in scoring they are producing 31 points per game. Seems to me that is quickest path back to winning at a high level. As the roster becomes more elite that pace can be dialed back as needed like Bama and Clemson do things.

Which is why Freeze, Franklin, etc. made sense to me. You are having to rebuild the roster anyway. Just recruit and build it to fit since you have one of the best S&C guys in the business.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Calloway is literally one of the last people anyone should question effort. Dude is a professional. He’s just now a fake rah rah guy.

And yet...he was protecting himself? I guess that's ok with you? If he couldn't or wouldn't give 100% because he was worried about getting hurt, then he should have said so and sat it out...that is garbage...IF...true

 

[butchna]

I’m glad UNC is trying to bring a younger coach who has plenty of time to turn it around

Mack Brown is 67

When you’re bleeding and are piling up 2 and 3 win seasons? Hire an old guy who used to coach at Texas.

 

[HankHill]

And yet...he was protecting himself? I guess that's ok with you? If he couldn't or wouldn't give 100% because he was worried about getting hurt, then he should have said so and sat it out...that is garbage...IF...true

He wasn’t that whole thing is just stupid. He almost housed a punt lol. He didn’t have a great game, he may not have been 100% and it probably effected him. He didn’t have a spectacular catch on a poorly thrown ball like he does basically every game so people assume he didn’t play hard. It’s just lazy.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

Chavis standing behind him like

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Pruitt: “So that’s where that Barrel’s been.”

Fulmer: “I had it filled with whiskey, and on THIS day, it is fully aged.”

 

[bignewt]

He wasn’t that whole thing is just stupid. He almost housed a punt lol. He didn’t have a great game, he may not have been 100% and it probably effected him. He didn’t have a spectacular catch on a poorly thrown ball like he does basically every game so people assume he didn’t play hard. It’s just lazy.

I bet he would love a qb that can actually hit him in stride instead of having to stop and stand under it for 5 seconds. Too bad you can't fair catch a JG pass.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

 

[bignewt]

No cap?

 

[RikidyBones]

No cap?

I'm old too man

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Big difference between “protecting yourself” and quitting or not caring. Not one person has suggested Callaway was a cancer, quitted or didn’t care. Bad example

Half assed effort is half assed effort.

 

[HankHill]

I bet he would love a qb that can actually hit him in stride instead of having to stop and stand under it for 5 seconds. Too bad you can't fair catch a JG pass.

I’m so just sick of people with the lazy ass take of “players quit, didn’t try, didn’t want extra practices, protecting themselves, didn’t want to play in a crappy bowl”. It happens with every single staff we have here.
-kiffin in the bowl game
-Dooley against kentucky
-butch against Vanderbilt
-Pruitt against Vanderbilt
It’s like clockwork. We lose a game we shouldn’t at the end and it’s automatically some half ass blame on the players and not even a word about the coaching staffs getting paid millions and that have every single recourse they could possibly think of didn’t have their teams ready to play and had a piss poor game plan. If you’re gonna put the finger at players then you better have a few pointing at our OC who was probably already trying on WKU gear during the week.

Rant over. Praise dale.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I agree to a certain extent. We (the royal, nationwide we) have a tendency to make the labor the bad guy instead of the management.

This is garbage..What Hank said was garbage too..the common denominator in all this is pkayers not giving a crap..2011 UK over and over and over...

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Odd tweet from someone everyone assumes will get git’d

 

[White Bread]

No cap?

Slang for no lie, for real, etc.

 

[Vols4us]

Half assed effort is half assed effort.

JMO, but being injured we should give him a pass for a play or two when he's as frustrated as we are. He gave all he had all season. You could tell on his successful punt return he did not have his usual quickness. I don't think he should have been a punt returner anyway. He's good with the ball in his hands and bad in his judgment on catching them. That role also added to his injury issues.

 

[Ron Swanson]

Odd tweet from someone everyone assumes will get git’d

He’s talking about coffee. Obviously got a coffee grinder recently.

 

[chavisut]

Yea he's really the architect of the spread but this is scary.

MTSU was sacked 33 times this year with a GREAT Savy QB. We were only sacked 22 times. JG doesn't want Tony Franklin

Just glancing at attempts, they were better in pass protection.

 

[chavisut]

He’s talking about coffee. Obviously got a coffee grinder recently.

Fresh ground coffee is game changer.

 

[dwaugh]

He’s talking about coffee. Obviously got a coffee grinder recently.

Or met a girl at a night club...

 

[RikidyBones]

I’m so just sick of people with the lazy ass take of “players quit, didn’t try, didn’t want extra practices, protecting themselves, didn’t want to play in a crappy bowl”. It happens with every single staff we have here.
-kiffin in the bowl game
-Dooley against kentucky
-butch against Vanderbilt
-Pruitt against Vanderbilt
It’s like clockwork. We lose a game we shouldn’t at the end and it’s automatically some half ass blame on the players and not even a word about the coaching staffs getting paid millions and that have every single recourse they could possibly think of didn’t have their teams ready to play and had a piss poor game plan. If you’re gonna put the finger at players then you better have a few pointing at our OC who was probably already trying on WKU gear during the week.

Rant over. Praise dale.

The players themselves have commented on the Kiffin bowl game that had no curfew, constant fooling around and no discipline. All of that showed during the game. Stories directly from the players mouth indicate this. Not message board fodder. Sure, blame the coaches for that one too. No issue with that.

Regarding Dooley and Bray, that came from plenty of sources if I remember correctly. That's a player mentality and lack of player leadership. I'm sure Dooley had some contribution to that with body language or even actual attitude.

Butch, cant recall the rumors out of that one.

This week, the sources are the players. Not message board fodder. Players are to blame for the effort issue. I find plenty of fault at the OC spot though. Too many play calls were straight trash. Should Pruitt have yanked the playcalling from him? idk.

I'd prefer to see continuity but if Helton is going to call the trash he does without a direction, I'd rather see his ass gone. Makes you think back to debord and Chaney. they had a plan, they had a purpose. seemed like Helton was playing madden and choosing from one of three options.

 

[chavisut]

Lots of talk about Derek Mason at Colorado.

Dude's vest gonna be huge.

 

[BruinVol]

Just glancing at attempts, they were better in pass protection.

Attempts wise I guess that's accurate but Stockstill got hit many many times every game and he has some pocket presence.
I watch a lot of their games and that offense can't win in the SEC imo

Kentucky sacked him 7 times

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Mulen is a good coach, and was my top choice to be UT's coach, and was told by many on here that he was overrated and couldn't succeed at UT, and that he would fail at UF. He was hired as a QB guru, but interestingly, he didn't really do much to turn Franks around as quickly as I thought he might. IMO, UF's improvement this season had more to do with getting something like 20% of their roster back from suspension, and the fact that the players didn't shut it down like they did all of November last season after JMc was fired at the end of Oct'17. UF's roster was in nowhere near the shape that UT's was. And another thing people ignore is that so many UT players missed spring practice, and with some, also missed some or all of fall camp. If I remember correctly UT had 5 OLmen available through much of spring practice, and some, like Trey and Kennedy, didn't get to practice all of fall camp. There were just not enough healthy players available to even have any competition at some positions. And because of injuries, so many players were unavailable for off season workouts. As far as I know, we don't have many, if any, players who will need off season surgery, so that automatically should make spring 2019 much more competitive and productive.

Meh..good coach, and I never said he would fail at UF, and would have tather had him thzn any of the other zombies, but he would not have recruited well enough at UT to turn this around, and he would ultimately fail here.

He is in the perfect situation for him, and will always be a big problem for us at UF.

 

[chavisut]

Attempts wise I guess that's accurate but Stockstill got hit many many times every game and he has some pocket presence.
I watch a lot of their games and that offense can't win in the SEC imo

Kentucky sacked him 7 times

I don’t want it.