Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[HankHill]

I guess it’s just that I’ve trained myself over the last 15 years as a Tennessee fan but I really feel in my groove when it’s cosching carousel season.

Nothing beats a good coaching search on VN.

 

[BruinVol]

Everyone trying to make Helton the fall guy. Who the hell hired Helton? That's who needs to be in the frying pan.

They both failed miserably this year

I'll let the HC decide if he needs to cut bait. I ain't suggesting anyone should be fired

 

[Ron Swanson]

Everyone trying to make Helton the fall guy. Who the hell hired Helton? That's who needs to be in the frying pan.

Didn't Saban fire his OC after year one at Bama? Sometimes it doesn't work out like you thought and it's better to part ways sooner than later. FTR I am a Helton fan but clearly somethings not working. Pruitt has to make a change now if he's not 100% sold on Helton.

 

[engineerVOL]

I can believe it. If the stories about Helton wanting out are true, and many of the players checking out, I could see Pruitt seeing the benefits of a bowl being outweighed by getting it behind you and making recruiting your sole focus.

Then Pruitt isn’t the man I thought he was.

 

[Ron Swanson]

I guess it’s just that I’ve trained myself over the last 15 years as a Tennessee fan but I really feel in my groove when it’s cosching carousel season.

It's what we're best at around here. No fanbase does a coaching search like Vol fans. We even enjoy following other teams searches more than those fans.

 

[BruinVol]

Didn't Saban fire his OC after year one at Bama? Sometimes it doesn't work out like you thought and it's better to part ways sooner than later. FTR I am a Helton fan but clearly somethings not working. Pruitt has to make a change now if he's not 100% sold on Helton.

WHo was it?

 

[Vols2DaWall]

Real question. Have we ever learned how to throw or defend a slant route?

 

[Vols2DaWall]

WHo was it?

I think it was Applewhite

 

[buffaloblue]

Non-conference lines up well next year overall.

Georgia State, BYU, Chattanooga, And UAB.

BYU and UAB are tests but beats having a West Virginia, Oklahoma, or Oregon with this potentially young team.

Missouri, Miss State, And Vandy lode long time QB.

Kentucky sans Snell most likely.

South Carolina should be solid, but it’s at home.

Florida hasn’t recruited at the same level the past few years but they will no doubt be the favorite.

Bama And Georgia are going to be good. Damn good.

This is a really good schedule imo for a team trying to grow.

 

[Sudden Impact]

Didn't Saban fire his OC after year one at Bama? Sometimes it doesn't work out like you thought and it's better to part ways sooner than later. FTR I am a Helton fan but clearly somethings not working. Pruitt has to make a change now if he's not 100% sold on Helton.

You should know better than to make this comment. Can't have it both ways ok to fire but I am a fan. Support the Coach first and with our OL/DL it's hard to judge anybody's ability on the coaching staff in there first year.......

 

[BruinVol]

I think it was Applewhite

Thanks

 

[butchna]

WHo was it?

Major Applewhite

 

[InVOLuntary]

Regarding the extra practices. You 100% need that. Fundamentals were lacking majorly. The practices could have been used to focus on it. 15 practices is essentially 5 weeks of extra in season practices. All regarding fundamentals would help next year exponentially, especially for the guys you'll keep. No reason to not focus on getting your foundation better before spring.

They've been practicing all year and haven't gotten it. Plus we don't know what percentage of players will even be a part of this team next year, even for spring. I think in most every case you are right but I'm not sure this one isn't the exception. JMO

 

[jakez4ut]

Florida only won 4 games too. On paper with the better QB too.

Yet there were analysts during pre season predicting 2nd place finish and 8 or 9 wins.

No one predicted that for us.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Fedora officially out at UNC.

They'll probably hire Leach and lock down their side of the state line for the next decade.

 

[Ron Swanson]

You should know better than to make this comment. Can't have it both ways ok to fire but I am a fan. Support the Coach first and with our OL/DL it's hard to judge anybody's ability on the coaching staff in there first year.......

I agree, I'm not blaming the coaches for our lack of talent. I think Helton is a fine coach. He called some very good games this year. But if the rumors are true about him not being happy here/Pruitt not happy with him/or whatever, you have to cut bait.

 

[butchna]

They'll probably hire Leach and lock down their side of the state line for the next decade.

Not recruiting wise. He sucks at that. Doesn’t do well against rivals either. Couldn’t beat Washington...so he’d be good with running away.

 

[buffaloblue]

Scott Satterfield or Mike Houston is the right hire for UNC. Both can recruit NC. Another major option is Clemson co-offensive coordinator.

 

[buffaloblue]

They will hire Mack Brown though

 

[InVOLuntary]

Then Pruitt isn’t the man I thought he was.

I think Pruitt is exactly what Pruitt is, he's a first year head coach that's feeling his way through this. I've maintained and many times been chastised for it, that I don't believe TN is a job that's suited for on the job training. Doesn'tmean Pruitt is doomed for failure but I think it puts him at a huge disadvantage. He has/is and will continue to make mistakes. His future will be determined by how well he responds to those mistakes. Previous head coaching experience should always be extremely valued when hiring a head coach for the football team at Tennessee. JMO

 

[volinbama256]

Real question. Have we ever learned how to throw or defend a slant route?

That was the WORST yesterday... they were throwing middle school 5 yard slants all day and connected on every one... so easy and simple, yet we don't know how to play it tight or can't even do it ourselves. It is beyond me how we have not done it when we've struggled all season on O... gets you 5-6 instantly because the DB is at least 5yds off of the WR... but that makes too much sense.

 

[JAllen18]

Will be interesting to see how Pruitt flips the roster. I suspect we'll have 12-15 guys request a transfer.

 

[McGeesPub]

Kitchens does make a lot of sense. Theoretically you could have Helton work until the first signing day then Kitchens’ season would be over.

Peyton Manning is no Freddie Kitchens.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Nothing beats a good coaching search on VN.

We've got fellow 'fans' saying we just need to wait 3-5 years to let the staff assemble a decent roster and then see if we can reel off a few 8-9 win seasons before setting our expectations higher. A good coaching search is probably the only joy that anyone is going to get our of this program for the next decade or so.

 

[butchna]

Scott Satterfield or Mike Houston is the right hire for UNC. Both can recruit NC. Another major option is Clemson co-offensive coordinator.

Was more than fine with kicking the tires on Houston last year. He’d have been behind the curve on SEC recruiting and relationships, but he bleeds winning. UNC seems perfect for him in his first P5 job. Satterfield will get his shot sooner rather than later but I’m not as big on him making the translation.