Tennessee is going NOWHERE with JG

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The Original Fade said:
Who do you suggest at QB and please give reasons why
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I hope that Pruitt can convince a kid like Jalen Hurts to transfer into UT. I think that is a long shot given the status of the o-line and Hurts would be wanting to have a big season to get a shot at the next level.

Other than that I am not sure the answer at QB is currently on the roster. Maybe the Maurer kid comes in and wins the job but would we be better off with the growing pains of a freshman QB in the SEC? I doubt it so JG will probably be the starter next year but without major improvement he will be on the bench his senior year or on a different team.
 
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volfan411 said:
I hope that Pruitt can convince a kid like Jalen Hurts to transfer into UT. I think that is a long shot given the status of the o-line and Hurts would be wanting to have a big season to get a shot at the next level.

Other than that I am not sure the answer at QB is currently on the roster. Maybe the Maurer kid comes in and wins the job but would we be better off with the growing pains of a freshman QB in the SEC? I doubt it so JG will probably be the starter next year but without major improvement he will be on the bench his senior year or on a different team.
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Maurer or Shrout? who knows until they get a chance. I'm glad Shrout was RS'd because a frosh with that OL would have been in ICU by now.
 
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I still don't know how anyone is delusional enough to believe that our QB play would've magically been great if we merely had a different QB getting murdered behind our O-line.

Did no one see the Mizzou game when Keller Chyrst, a QB who went 11-2 at Stanford, looked like a walk-on at a Sunbelt school behind that O-line? JG had a poor game; the fact that he didn't have 12 "poor games" behind that O-line is a miracle. He had 8 good or great games. 2 injured games. And 2 poor ones; and both of the poor games, he was constantly under attack.

Similar deal with Chandler and Jordan. They've had good games and bad games, but it's tough to be consistently good when you get no help from the OL. In a lot of Chandler and Jordan's bad games, they were getting hit in the backfield before they even had a chance to make a move.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
I still don't know how anyone is delusional enough to believe that our QB play would've magically been great with a different QB getting murdered behind our O-line. JG had a poor game; the fact that he didn't have 12 "poor games" behind that O-line is a miracle. He had 8 good or great games. 2 injured games. And 2 poor ones; and both of the poor games he constantly under attack.

Similar deal with Chandler and Jordan. They've had good games and bad games, but it's tough to be consistently good when you get no help from the OL.
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Stick to video games as your QB analysis is suspect
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
I still don't know how anyone is delusional enough to believe that our QB play would've magically been great with a different QB getting murdered behind our O-line. JG had a poor game; the fact that he didn't have 12 "poor games" behind that O-line is a miracle. He had 8 good or great games. 2 injured games. And 2 poor ones; and both of the poor games he constantly under attack.

Similar deal with Chandler and Jordan. They've had good games and bad games, but it's tough to be consistently good when you get no help from the OL.
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The o-line had nothing to do with the under throws, late throws and simply holding the ball to long. I think JG would be a good QB behind a great o-line but unfortunately he will not be afforded that opportunity in his career here.
 
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peaygolf said:
Maurer or Shrout? who knows until they get a chance. I'm glad Shrout was RS'd because a frosh with that OL would have been in ICU by now.
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Well I thought they should have given Shrout a shot last night since it would not have burned his RS. I think both will be given a shot to win the job in the spring if we do not get another grad transfer.
 
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I have a feeling JG is Pruitts QB and no one else will beat him out, wink , wink
 
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volfan411 said:
Well I thought they should have given Shrout a shot last night since it would not have burned his RS. I think both will be given a shot to win the job in the spring if we do not get another grad transfer.
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Shrout is one year removed from throwing 25 INTs with a 51% completion rating at the high school level. Anyone who thinks he would've played better than JG is fooling themselves. He's a "project" at best. I admit I'm very skeptical that Shrout is going to pan out at all, but hope I'm wrong.

More optimistic about Maurer, who I think showed pretty good improvement during his Senior HS season and put up great numbers in spite of playing on a weaker team.
 
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We all know we need a "fix" for the whole team's performance. Here's is one way to start the process that may be drastic, but drastic time call for drastic measures. With the seniors that go, pick the least productive next 25 or so (attitude or ability) and let them go in the next few days.(gives them time to find a place where they can excel if they want to) This will get some of the bad apples (hate to use this term) out of the basket. I know this will leave us down on numbers but at least the less than acceptable peaces will be out of the way. This way we can all understand that this is a "rebuild" and not be so torn up about the process. I know ability is limited but their is no excuse for poor attitude. No coach can change a guys attitude if he doesn't want to change. I listened to Tim's radio call for the first half, you could tell he was disgusted with the attitude in addition to the poor play it was causing. Watching the second half I felt the same way. I think you have a better product when you use this type measure than to keep letting poor performance drag down the people that want to perform. To me no body is better than one that won't perform as best they can.
 
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With another year of actual coaching (compared to last staff) and an o-line that has another offseason of S&C (results from offseason strength programs start to show in second year, typically)...I think JG will take a big step forward next season, as will the entire offense and shut up a lot of the detractors. On top of that, they are going to benefit from real spring practices. Pruitt said last spring wasn't true spring practices because of lack of available players and that they would have the bodies this spring. You also will see a much needed influx of talent.

I'm not going to get down on the staff or any players in particular. It's hard to use this season as a measuring stick for anyone due to there being so many issues Pruitt had to address. You usually see big steps forward in the second year under good head coaches, and that's why next year will be the measuring stick. Keep in mind that Kirby Smart was 8-5 his first season with a team that won 10 the previous season. They had an o-line that struggled too. They were a completely different team the second season. They were significantly improved from a physical and mental standpoint. That underperforming o-line was suddenly dominant. Some players who had only flashed potential were suddenly star players.

The point is, a single player...let alone an entire team...doesn't make a huge turnaround in performance in one season under a new coach after multiple seasons under a terrible coach. If this team and certain players don't take a big step next season, then everyone complaining with have some firm ground to stand on. Until then, folks bashing JG and the staff are ripping folks who are doing their best and fighting hard despite some bad circumstances.
 
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willford65 said:
JG is not the QB we need for the next 2 years, but then again that OL is about as bad as I see. Vandy has no 5 star and very few 4 stars and they play extremely well together.
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Vandys 2019 is a stellar class at rivals number 48. One 4 star athelete and the rest 2-3 star.
Mason will turn those 2-3 star into 4 star on the field. Unlike Tennessee that regresses 4 star to two star on the field. With exception of kiffin its been like that for
10 years now.
 
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I’m still here.
I think the kid has a high ceiling. He needs to be coached up more, but has a great arm. I honestly believe if he diligently studies and is taught how to better read defenses, AND WE BUILD A LINE GOOD ENOUGH TO LET HIM ACTUALLY SEE DOWN THE FIELD, he will be just fine.
Urban Meyer wanted him too, he’s an a-hole but a good judge of talent.
JG had a great completion percentage even while literally running for his life. I believe a few games, including Vandy, he was likely not fit for duty, but sadly remained our best option to win.
I would love the next messianic QB to show up on signing day, but I won’t get my hopes up.
JG is serviceable, he just needs to better understand the game, he had true flashes of brilliance. Now we need to see if he can learn to make that the norm.
Good luck in the offseason JG!
 
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Film measures players performance. Improvement as the season progresses is imperative. Coaching has to make the difference in achieving results. We need to replace the coaches and players that aren't getting it done.
 
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BloomuVol said:
And to that one play I can list 12 that somebody whiffed on a block and got him nailed, quit trying to use an exception to paint it as the norm.
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Ashevillevol said:
I have been reluctant to criticize JG or any other 18-22 year old out playing a game for our entertainment, but I think the constant hits he takes are taking a toll on him. I think the issues people have already mentioned have some validity but no one ever questioned his toughness or his willingness to stand in there to the last split second and take a hit. There have been a lot of vicious hits that he didn’t see coming and I think that one at the beginning of the Missouri game did some psychological damage. Since then, he is very skittish in the pocket and bails the second he sees someone break through. There were multiple balls thrown with him falling backwards or throwing off his back foot to get rid of it. All the long balls are rainbows. I am concerned that it has altered his best trait. Probably good the season is over so maybe he can forget about this one.
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Justin Worley is a better QB today than JG
 
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Cartervol said:
You can't point the finger at just one individual. Josh Dobbs isn't walking through that door folks. JG isn't a Kyler Murray, Josh Dobbs, or any other Dual threat QB i can think of. In fact he isn't dual threat at all.
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I fact he is little threat at all. Maybe part of it is the o-line, part of it is the receivers, or it's him. Either way, he is no threat and with the guy's around him the next two years, he won't become much of a threat.
 
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