Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[HankHill]

If it was good enough to beat Kentucky and Auburn, it was good enough to beat Vandy.

Exactly. Same for SC.

 

[VolGee4]

I could have as many likes as Ron Swanson if I posted "We will be 15-0 national champs book it" like he does all the time. Im not here to get likes, I'm here to post whats on my mind.

Actually, you are the opposite of Ron, and some eat it up.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Just not convinced? Lol....how is this even a debate? If I'm Pruitt i cut him pick up a grad transfer qb and let Shrout and Mauer battle it out.

Let's roll!

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Vandy should have been the litmus test THIS year.

Not with this roster.

 

[HankHill]

SMH..you will never admit how bad this roster is/was no matter how much evidence of it is shoved in your face will you?

It doesn’t make sense to admit that. The previous coach builds the best roster in east for two years but then every player after that still on roster is garbage. I don’t buy that and people didn’t buy that before the year started either. Is our roster great? Hell no. But it’s good enough to be mediocre and win 6 games.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Exactly. Same for SC.

Their full quit/don't care was on display the last two weeks.

 

[engineerVOL]

Six blowouts

Several positives this year but more negatives IMO. They almost wipe out the goodwill from the Auburn and Kentucky games.

He’s gotta land a top 5 class, outside of this it’s tough sledding for the guy.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

It doesn’t make sense to admit that. The previous coach builds the best roster in east for two years but then every player after that still on roster is garbage. I don’t buy that and people didn’t buy that before the year started either. Is our roster great? Hell no. But it’s good enough to be mediocre and win 6 games.

Not with the attitude cancer it's not. Too many guys don't care.

 

[Rishvol]

I listened to end of the game driving home from work

“And a loss to Vanderbilt will put a cap on this disappointing season” Bob Kessling

Probably said it with Glee in his voice also

 

[HankHill]

Their full quit/don't care was on display the last two weeks.

That’s on the coaches too man. It’s your job as a coach to motivate and hold a team together. They failed in that aspect.

 

[McGeesPub]

Not with this roster.

“The roster” is not a valid excuse for getting blown out by a 5-6 Vanderbilt team. It really should only apply to 4 games, especially when you beat Auburn and Kentucky with that roster.

 

[bignewt]

Several positives this year but more negatives IMO. They almost wipe out the goodwill from the Auburn and Kentucky games.

He’s gotta land a top 5 class, outside of this it’s tough sledding for the guy.

Almost? Good grief.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

That’s on the coaches too man. It’s your job as a coach to motivate and hold a team together. They failed in that aspect.

You CAN NOT motivate guys who will not, and don't want to be motivated. That is not on the staff, that is on the individual...period.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

 

[bignewt]

Im all but convinced the staff did not want to go to a bowl.

 

[Crazy Ivan]

Not at all. But the guy made nearly 0 progress this year. I withheld judgement too long on Butch even though the signs were there. This time I'm saying Pruitt was a crappy hire and he's a crappy coach. Hope he proves me wrong but I'm pretty confident he won't.

He made just as much progress as $75m Jimbo Fisher made at Texas A&M in his first season, which was a +1 improvement in wins, and made more progress than Moorehead did at MSU (0). And certainly more than Morris at Arkansas (-2). Jimbo and Moorehead took over programs with winning cultures and plenty of talent, yet neither were able to improve their team's record more than Pruitt did a UT, and Moorehead didn't improve his team's record at all, yet along with Mullen I was told all offseason what fantastic hires. Pruitt, a first year HC, is having to completely overhaul this program from the ground up and improved his team's winning record by 1 game, same as Fisher, and more than Moorehead. I think BVS keeps some of you from any sort of rational thinking.

 

[HankHill]

You CAN NOT motivate guys who will not, and don't want to be motivated. That is not on the staff, that is on the individual...period.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

So basically what you’re saying is:

After assembling a roster best in the east for two years, every player butch recruited is either not good enough or a loser. And the current staff is not to blame at all

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

“The roster” is not a valid excuse for getting blown out by a 5-6 Vanderbilt team. It really should only apply to 4 games, especially when you beat Auburn and Kentucky with that roster.

Whatever...you and every other coach blamer is blind to the cancer on this squad. Guys who came here to goof off, not try real hard to win football games. I'm shocked Pruitt was able to drag performances like UK anf AU out of this squad.

 

[bignewt]

So basically what you’re saying is:

After assembling a roster best in the east for two years, every player butch recruited is either not good enough or a loser. And the current staff is not to blame at all

Again..the truth lies in the middle.

 

[McGeesPub]

Whatever...you and every other coach blamer is blind to the cancer on this squad. Guys who came here to goof off, not try real hard to win football games. I'm shocked Pruitt was able to drag performances like UK anf AU out of this squad.

Ha! Full credit for Auburn and Kentucky, completely blameless for...everything else.

 

[HankHill]

Again..the truth lies in the middle.

It 100% does

 

[mccrackb]

We went 5-7 in a year we were favored in 3 games. We beat two ranked opponents, one on the road. Far from perfect and growth and staff adjustments are needed, but this isn’t a dumpster fire season either.

About what we thought just disappointed to see the lack of effort.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Hey.... at least we're not uscjr....

Imagine being in year three of a regime, with a QB who has three years starting experience, and still losing by several scores to UGA and Clemson.

I guarantee by year three, this team will be surprising some people.

 

[VolGee4]

I was mainly talking about route concepts.

I don’t know enough about route concepts as I never played. But they also use Beasley in the middle of the field. I don’t know if it’s JG or Helton, but I am tired of seeing the wide side out pattern.

 

[VolGee4]

I was extremely negative about Rick Barnes after year 1. I was soooo wrong there

Hope this is the case again

Not sure why on Barnes. He literally had nothing and beat UK.

 

[rekinhavoc]

I'm guessing that no players emerged as leaders as Pruitt hoped for. We need an Al Wilson .