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Blake25p said:
4 of which came form the 1,5,9,and 13th ranked teams in the country. Obviously never good to lose by that much but it’s not like they were trash teams.
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Oh yea I agree our schedule has a lot to do with our issues by we simply have to be more competitive. Five losses of more than 25 pts is inexcusable
 
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BruinVol said:
Just so people know that Greer Charlotte defense has given up 72 in its last two games to fiu and Marshall

Let that sit in
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BruinVol said:
To me its this simple. List the games we were prepared to play on offense.

Prepared- etsu-auburn-Kentucky-USCe

That's it. That means in 7 games he didn't have us prepared
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why do you think we were prepared for Auburn?

we won. but how many 3rd and longs did we convert on the same 30 yard back shoulder throw?
the reality is we weren't very good on 1st or 2nd down that game. the run game wasn't very good. what makes you think we were "more prepared" against auburn, than we were against WVU or MO?



we just made big plays at the exact time we needed them against Auburn. and the defense stepped up and had one of their best games.

the two games we executed well enough to where you could kinda see the game plan come to fruition was the USCe and KY games.

that doesn't mean that every play call is great. but it does mean you really don't have a clue what was supposed to happen every time a play gets blown up.

people get "calling the play" and "the result of the play" confused all the time.
 
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jakez4ut said:
why do you think we were prepared for Auburn?

we won. but how many 3rd and longs did we convert on the same 30 yard back shoulder throw?
the reality is we weren't very good on 1st or 2nd down that game. the run game wasn't very good. what makes you think we were "more prepared" against auburn, than we were against WVU or MO?



we just made big plays at the exact time we needed them against Auburn. and the defense stepped up and had one of their best games.

the two games we executed well enough to where you could kinda see the game plan come to fruition was the USCe and KY games.

that doesn't mean that every play call is great. but it does mean you really don't have a clue what was supposed to happen every time a play gets blown up.

people get "calling the play" and "the result of the play" confused all the time.
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Sad. You took the bait
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SpringBokVol said:
I must be in the minority but I have zero issue with Helton.
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Man...I'm a staunch defender of most of the staff, but even I have to admit Helton makes some head scratchers. I think he even makes Jeremy scratch his head some times. He will have to do better down the road when "experiment and implement" time is over, or he is going to cost us big games in the future when the talent evens out.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
People live in the moment. Last week this post wouldn’t have been written, but since we had a bad loss to a team that is clearly much better than us, the progress that has been made is forgotten and we’re back to questioning the coaches again.

This team is low on talent and has had almost no development. They are slow, small, weak, and lack toughness in comparison to the rest of the SEC. and still, Pruitt has beaten two ranked SEC teams and still had a chance at a bowl game.
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All this, and against the toughest schedule in college football.
 
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Blake25p said:
I doubt Sankey would let it happen IMO.
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I think it depends on who wants to hire him. He will have served a one year penance. Petrino did not come back but what he did was worse than what Freeze did. I think a lot will be forgiven after being out for a year.
 
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jakez4ut said:
why do you think we were prepared for Auburn?

we won. but how many 3rd and longs did we convert on the same 30 yard back shoulder throw?
the reality is we weren't very good on 1st or 2nd down that game. the run game wasn't very good. what makes you think we were "more prepared" against auburn, than we were against WVU or MO?



we just made big plays at the exact time we needed them against Auburn. and the defense stepped up and had one of their best games.

the two games we executed well enough to where you could kinda see the game plan come to fruition was the USCe and KY games.

that doesn't mean that every play call is great. but it does mean you really don't have a clue what was supposed to happen every time a play gets blown up.

people get "calling the play" and "the result of the play" confused all the time.
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Hmmm

You do realize had USCe listed as well right and we lost??
 
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roosterjbh said:
And our offense beat the brakes off Kentucky.

This is a very streaky team, not sure why that’s so hard to accept.
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Exactly it's the coaches jobs to get consistency. I have no problem with our current win loss record. I will be very happy with the season If we win Saturday. I am
Just pointing out why Saturday is a must win in order to say this season isn't just another 2013
 
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jakez4ut said:
we have a small margin for error offensively. that's never NOT been the case this season. it's important for this offense to be pretty productive on 1st down. 2nd and 9+ is an instant drive killer.

and that's simply because there is NO run game to speak off.

until we get an offensive line capable of doing what they want to do in the run game, the play calling honestly doesn't matter, until you get in to later downs that favor us.

past that, it's "how do we get 4+ yards on 1st down?" then everything else comes in to play.....offensive coordinators all over the country are really good play callers on 2nd and 2. there aren't very many that are good a 3rd and 17...especially when you're in the latter a lot more than the former.

fix the O line, and a lot (not all) of our problems start to go away.
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I agree the oline is a huge reason for our problems but how does running it off tackle 90% of the time on first down help?
 
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BruinVol said:
Hmmm

You do realize had USCe listed as well right and we lost??
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yeah. that's the point. the result doesn't always mean what YOU think it means.

we played better offensively than we did against Auburn, from an "execution of the game plan" standpoint.

you don't see that, fine with me. i don't need you to agree with me to know that's what happened.....lol.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I agree the oline is a huge reason for our problems but how does running it off tackle 90% of the time on first down help?
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i think 90% is a little overzealous.....

the runs on 1st down betweent he tackles, especially early in games, have been a problem more times than not. siap, the only real issue i have with the play calling is the lack of some creativity in the run game. the O line is not where it needs to be do just line up and run power I like we we have shown we want to.

we have to do it some to keep defenses honest.

1st and 10 or 2nd and 9+ are not downs that favor us though in those types of sets. generally they just lead to 3rdd and long.
 
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SpringBokVol said:
I must be in the minority but I have zero issue with Helton.
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Does this mean that I agree with everything he calls, absolutely not; but, I do believe he has done as good a job as he possibly can, with the hand he's been dealt. In the SEC, a bad OL means game over, period; I don't care if Lombardi is calling the plays.
 
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jakez4ut said:
yeah. that's the point. the result doesn't always mean what YOU think it means.

we played better offensively than we did against Auburn, from an "execution of the game plan" standpoint.

you don't see that, fine with me. i don't need you to agree with me to know that's what happened.....lol.
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I am last one to use Results. Remembered I didn't like the Hail Mary.

Now with that said the quality of defense is involved in my list of prepared games.
Auburn is must better on D than USCe. Both games were plenty good enough to win on O
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I don’t disagree on Helton but I don’t think he represents the coaching staff as a whole.
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I don't either. I do think it goes to your point though about limited depth and getting tired and beat up. It's no secret this team starts slow. I think a large part of that is an OC that can't adjust on the fly, at least quickly. In many games, it's 10, 7, 14 -0 and our offense has had 3 3 and outs and our defense is already feeling gassed. Not to mention the mental side where the defense thinks they're already beat and all they're doing is trying to keep it close. It's my opinion this offense is underachieving even considering this offensive line.
 
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BruinVol said:
I am last one to use Results. Remembered I didn't like the Hail Mary.

Now with that said the quality of defense is involved in my list of prepared games.
Auburn is must better on D than USCe. Both games were plenty good enough to win on O
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so you think we lost usce becasue of helton an the offense? or did you walk out of the room when our defense was giving up 5+ YPC in the 2nd half?
 
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