12 dead in shooting at Thousand Oaks nightclub

[NurseGoodVol]

Does the absence of any evidence that would suggest it works necessitate a "belief" that it doesn't work or just the passive acceptance it doesn't?

There is no quantative measure for this. It’s faith.

 

[zeppelin128]

Or... Thoughts and prayers are clearly worthless. Where was god when the people in Pittsburgh were at temple literally praying?

Well that is different, for some reasons I'm not privy to.

 

[zeppelin128]

At least he didn't lie. You did. Or show us the receipt for the donation.

Triggered.

 

[zeppelin128]

And ignore it when it does change . Just to be fair .

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[zeppelin128]

A) lighten up Francis. You had to know that was a joke.

B) T n P from a person of faith to a person of faith is absolutely appropriate. Context applies. An atheist offering T n P probably should easily be perceived as mocking. A person of faith offering T n P to an atheist probably isn’t mocking but the atheist could probably care less.

Triggered.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Triggered.

Oh really. Do tell...

 

[NorthDallas40]

Heres a better reply

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Stupid!

 

[0nelilreb]

Triggered.

I don’t get triggered , that would require me to have way more feelings than I do .

 

[Septic]

A) lighten up Francis. You had to know that was a joke.

B) T n P from a person of faith to a person of faith is absolutely appropriate. Context applies. An atheist offering T n P probably should easily be perceived as mocking. A person of faith offering T n P to an atheist probably isn’t mocking but the atheist could probably care less.

T's and P's irrespective of the source are equally ineffective. If you find comfort in saying 'thoughts and prayers' after someone's loved one is murdered, good for you - it's good to know it makes you feel better... It changes nothing and very clearly doesn't prevent anything.

 

[Septic]

It is really amusing how threatened some of you are by someone offering prayers. Borders on fear. What the hell do you care if someone believes in God and believes that offering prayers is help and comfort?

Threatened? LOL, you're projecting.

 

[Septic]

There is no quantative measure for this. It’s faith.

Do you have faith that there aren't magical gnomes living in your backyard or do you just not have any reason to believe there are?

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Folks can mock all they want to, for a real sold out for Jesus Christ Christian to take time to petition the maker of this universe on someones behalf is the kindest thing that could be done for someone. The fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

In fairness, do i think people sometimes say they will and then dont pray? Yes, probably.

A person who takes prayer so lightly as to do that is probably not all that righteous and doesnt pray all that fervently anyway, in all likelihood. Its total crap to say you will pray for someone and then not. I get around that by always doing it immediately, preferably with the person, then i cant forget. Does sin in my life hinder my prayers? Thats a whole different conversation.

Quit being a dick to people you dont know because of their faith though. Lifes too short.

 

[NorthDallas40]

T's and P's irrespective of the source are equally ineffective. If you find comfort in saying 'thoughts and prayers' after someone's loved one is murdered, good for you - it's good to know it makes you feel better... It changes nothing and very clearly doesn't prevent anything.

I agree with you that it doesn’t change anything. I’d submit it isn’t supposed to though.

I’d also submit mocking a person of faith who genuinely offered T n Ps as an acknowledgement of somebodies grief doesn’t change anything either and is a dick move to boot.

If the person you’re mocking happens to be a politican replying with T n Ps go nuts. They’re pretty much screwed anyway with any response they make. It’ll obviously piss somebody off.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I've never understood the need to mock others for their faith. It's almost as if the ones doing it are missing something in their lives. It almost as if they're jealous. "I don't have it but you do so let's mock it, marginalize it so I can feel better about not having it."

 

[Septic]

I agree with you that it doesn’t change anything. I’d submit it isn’t supposed to though.

I’d also submit mocking a person of faith who genuinely offered T n Ps as an acknowledgement of somebodies grief doesn’t change anything either and is a dick move to boot.

If the person you’re mocking happens to be a politican replying with T n Ps go nuts. They’re pretty much screwed anyway with any response they make. It’ll obviously piss somebody off.

Since when did having a belief in something make it too sacred to question? This forum is freshly packed daily with examples of people shtting on other peoples deeply held convictions and beliefs, applying the 'faith' buzzword is supposed to suddenly make it off limits? f that.

Feigning outrage that someone would dare question the basis of your preferred religion and "mock" your constant "thoughts and prayers" in the wake of every tragedy is tired, we've been down this road.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I've never understood the need to mock others for their faith. It's almost as if the ones doing it are missing something in their lives. It almost as if they're jealous. "I don't have it but you do so let's mock it, marginalize it so I can feel better about not having it."

Post of the month right here.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Triggered.

Not really triggered. Human Fund has a feelz good liberal name to it. I missed the joke, but hardly triggered.

 

[Septic]

I've never understood the need to mock others for their faith. It's almost as if the ones doing it are missing something in their lives. It almost as if they're jealous. "I don't have it but you do so let's mock it, marginalize it so I can feel better about not having it."

People are sick of seeing it used as a crutch, T&P's and #prayfor<insertmassacrehere> has become cliché.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Since when did having a belief in something make it too sacred to question? This forum is freshly packed daily with examples of people shtting on other peoples deeply held convictions and beliefs, applying the 'faith' buzzword is supposed to suddenly make it off limits? f that.

Feigning outrage that someone would dare question the basis of your preferred religion and "mock" your constant "thoughts and prayers" in the wake of every tragedy is tired, we've been down this road.

Question faith and belief systems all you want. Sure this is a great place to do it too.

Mocking somebodies faith in doing so is a dick move though too.

And pointing out the dick move doesn’t mean it’s faux outrage. That’s another tired move.

 

[hog88]

People are sick of seeing it used as a crutch, T&P's and #prayfor<insertmassacrehere> has become cliché.

I'll start using "sorry about your bad luck, suck it up and drive on" from now on.

That shouldn't offend anyone.

 

[T-TownVol]

Since when did having a belief in something make it too sacred to question? This forum is freshly packed daily with examples of people shtting on other peoples deeply held convictions and beliefs, applying the 'faith' buzzword is supposed to suddenly make it off limits? f that.

Feigning outrage that someone would dare question the basis of your preferred religion and "mock" your constant "thoughts and prayers" in the wake of every tragedy is tired, we've been down this road.

Some of us pray for you Sep......just say'n.

 

[NorthDallas40]

People are sick of seeing it used as a crutch, T&P's and #prayfor<insertmassacrehere> has become cliché.

I vote we get rid of social media. That should greatly help with the mental health of most moonbats since Trump won’t be able to daily trigger them.

No it isn’t a non sequitor. It’s just an anecdotal comment.

 

[InVOLuntary]

People are sick of seeing it used as a crutch, T&P's and #prayfor<insertmassacrehere> has become cliché.

I agree T&P is over used because most don't mean it. For those that do believe and actually mean it and actually do it, it's has power. And to those that are in the receiving end appreciate it. It seems it's only hollow and offensive to people that don't believe which takes us back to my original point.

 

[Septic]

I agree T&P is over used because most don't mean it. For those that do believe and actually mean it and actually do it, it's has power. And to those that are in the receiving end appreciate it. It seems it's only hollow and offensive to people that don't believe which takes us back to my original point.

Fair enough.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

What is the point of shouting down people who think about or pray for those who are hurting? It takes time out of your day to let someone know their concern for someone else is a waste of time in your opinion. Does that make your day better, or theirs? I don’t know when the world go so divided that thinking about other people causes offense and negative reactions.