12 dead in shooting at Thousand Oaks nightclub

[NorthDallas40]

what I want to know is how much farther are they wanting California to go? Its like Chicago, you can't get any more draconian without hurting people who have no link to the situation.

The urban areas want a full ban. Plain and simple. The rural agrarian areas want them to shut the hell up.

 

[lawgator1]

Did you add something snarky at the end?

The whole thing was snarky. Which the politicians deserve.

 

[Grand Vol]

The whole thing was snarky. Which the politicians deserve.

Did we answer our own question then?

 

[tumscalcium]

That's what happens when we wake up to this so often and nothing ever changes. Ever.

Good luck changing human behavior.

 

[05_never_again]

The urban areas want a full ban. Plain and simple. The rural agrarian areas want them to shut the hell up.

The urban areas want them banned or at least heavily restricted everywhere. Rahm Emanuel and others blame Chicago's gun violence problem on the fact that the rural areas outside of Chicago have less restrictive laws and they come into the city that way.

 

[Hoosier_Vol]

What happened was horrific. Evil is real. So are CA gun laws: - Universal BG checks - May issue - 10 round mag limit - Purchase limitations - 10 day waiting period - No reciprocity with other states - “Assault weapons” ban & registration - Ammo thru FFL - Registration if moved

 

[Hoosier_Vol]

Ian Long is initial ID for the shooter, per wsj

Facebook search turns up this Ian Long from Almeda,Ca (NOT CONFIRMED SHOOTER OR CORRECT PERSON)

 

[Hoosier_Vol]

If this IS the correct guy nothing on his FB page to indicate any type of posted hate or messages. Hell 2 days ago he was trying to sell his car.

 

[lawgator1]

I wonder if Trump will go there, after this shooting.

 

[evillawyer]

 

[lawgator1]

Did we answer our own question then?

Well, it just seems like snarkiness is okay here if it goes in a certain direction. Not so much the other.

 

[Hoosier_Vol]

Updates:

* Sheriff says they believe the Thousand Oaks gunman killed himself. When officers made re-entry into the bar, they found him already dead inside an office adjacent to the bar.
* Sheriff says police had “several contacts” with shooter over the years, including a disturbance in his home in April of this year
* Sheriff says they have "no idea" what the shooter's motive was

 

[Hoosier_Vol]

UPDATE: The gunman who opened fire inside a Thousand Oaks, Calif., bar late Wednesday night, killing 12 people, including a sheriff’s sergeant, was identified as a 28-year-old man who had served in the U.S. Marine Corps

 

[Grand Vol]

Well, it just seems like snarkiness is okay here if it goes in a certain direction. Not so much the other.

Sensitive much?

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

UPDATE: The gunman who opened fire inside a Thousand Oaks, Calif., bar late Wednesday night, killing 12 people, including a sheriff’s sergeant, was identified as a 28-year-old man who had served in the U.S. Marine Corps

I wonder if he served overseas

 

[lawgator1]

Sensitive much?

I was making the point that we are going to have some more thoughts and prayers.

No action.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Doesn't seem to be happening in Australia, or Norway, or italy, or Greece. Maybe those places aren't populated by humans though.

Never seen septic tank refuse come out of someone’s mouth so fast without even checking any facts.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Chicago and Baltimore doesn’t matter

Odd the night after midterms, we have another mass shooting

 

[RikidyBones]

I was making the point that we are going to have some more thoughts and prayers.

No action.

California has the strictest gun laws in the country yet have had a fair share of "mass" shootings. At what point do you take a step back and realize that you aren't fixing the problem with more gun laws?

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Good luck changing human behavior.

Man has been killing man for thousands of years since Cain and able. Figuring out the psyche behind it is still a mystery even with warning signs.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

I was making the point that we are going to have some more thoughts and prayers.

No action.

You are of the belief that intercessory prayer doesn’t work?

 

[Grand Vol]

I was making the point that we are going to have some more thoughts and prayers.

No action.

What action would you like to see? The articles he used were already illegal in California.

Social media check so far has turned up nothing.

No motive yet.

Other than "well, we have to do SOMETHING!" what else would you like to see?

 

[Septic]

You are of the belief that intercessory prayer doesn’t work?

Does the absence of any evidence that would suggest it works necessitate a "belief" that it doesn't work or just the passive acceptance it doesn't?

 

[lawgator1]

California has the strictest gun laws in the country yet have had a fair share of "mass" shootings. At what point do you take a step back and realize that you aren't fixing the problem with more gun laws?

What action would you like to see? The articles he used were already illegal in California.

Social media check so far has turned up nothing.

No motive yet.

Other than "well, we have to do SOMETHING!" what else would you like to see?

Its a bit early, but initial reports are that a) he had a mental illness issue and was on the radar as recently as this Spring, and b) he was using unlawful magazines.

I think people that have such irrationality that the police are called and have a crisis person come meet with them to "clear" them should not have guns for quite some time.

 

[YankeeVol]

I wonder if he served overseas

Here we go