JG #2 QB in nation under pressure and #4 overall in SEC

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It's interesting how similar JG's stats and situation are to those of Eli Manning's this year. Both have completion rates in the high 60's, low number of TDs, low number of interceptions, high passing YPA, both are playing behind poor offensive lines, and both have only won two games (of significance) this season.

There's debate on whether Manning should continue to start, but any discussion of JG's short comings is heresy to some, to the point that posters on here have resorted to claims of racism as a response to any criticism of JG's performances.
 
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I'd have to say that JG has given his all for our footVol Team.

By now he should have earned the respect of everyone that's a Tennessee fan.

Now young man, go get us 2 more WINS to end this season and then a blowout WIN in whatever bowl we play in!

VFL...GBO!!!
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Bench JG.

Put Chryst in.

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Forgive my ignorance, but I cant tell if the (blue font) has a hidden meaning and is meant as a joke or is meant in all seriousness. LOL I have to say that JG is a work horse and is killing it as far as I am concerned based on line play and how much he is on his back. Putting Chryst in MIGHT give us another W or two in the short run, but meaningful snaps for JG improves on him as a player and sets us up for success next year when Chryst has graduated and JG is at the helm. Simply put, benching JG for Chryst would be a mistake. JG has the team behind him and has proven to be a tough guy who leads by example who is showing his team what it means to play tough through pain and adversity.

Again, if I missed some sarcasm from the (blue font) thing disregard my post. LOL

GBO!!
 
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BeardedVol said:
It's interesting how similar JG's stats and situation are to those of Eli Manning's this year. Both have completion rates in the high 60's, low number of TDs, low number of interceptions, high passing YPA, both are playing behind poor offensive lines, and both have only won two games (of significance) this season.

There's debate on whether Manning should continue to start, but any discussion of JG's short comings is heresy to some, to the point that posters on here have resorted to claims of racism as a response to any criticism of JG's performances.
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One is 85 and one is in his first year of starting and getting better. It seems to reason that similar performances from ascending and descending players would be looked at differently.

And no both haven't only won 2 games this year.
 
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k-town_king said:
One is 85 and one is in his first year of starting and getting better. It seems to reason that similar performances from ascending and descending players would be looked at differently.

And no both haven't only won 2 games this year.
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What's his age have to do with his performance? QBs over 35 should be automatically benched? How old are Roethlisberger, and Brees now?
 
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BeardedVol said:
What's his age have to do with his performance? QBs over 35 should be automatically benched? How old are Roethlisberger, and Brees now?
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Dude you really have a comprehension problem.

Where did I say anyone should be benched? I said age and experience influence how a player's performance is evaluated.

Anyone with sense knows this.
 
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k-town_king said:
Dude you really have a comprehension problem.

Where did I say anyone should be benched? I said age and experience influence how a player's performance is evaluated.

Anyone with sense knows this.
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So why bring up Manning's age in reference to his performance? Is it that you literally can't post about JG without going into ultra-defense mode?
 
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BeardedVol said:
So why bring up Manning's age in reference to his performance? Is it that you literally can't post about JG without going into ultra-defense mode?
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Dude you are comparing one QB who is at the very end of his career to a QB who is at the very beginning??

Not sure what point you are trying to make other than you don’t like the 4th rated QB in the SEC. Noted move on
 
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thegasman54 said:
Dude you are comparing one QB who is at the very end of his career to a QB who is at the very beginning??

Not sure what point you are trying to make other than you don’t like the 4th rated QB in the SEC. Noted move on
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A QB at the end of his career, who is completing 67.6% of his passes, putting him at 8th in the NFL in completion percentage, less than a percentage point behind Jared Goff.

Are you telling me that high completion percentage isn't good enough for you to consider him to be a good QB this year?

I was just pointing out that Manning and Guarantano, have very similar stats, behind similarly performing offensive lines, this season, relative to the fact that one is in the NFL and one is CFB.
 
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BeardedVol said:
A QB at the end of his career, who is completing 67.6% of his passes, putting him at 8th in the NFL in completion percentage, less than a percentage point behind Jared Goff.

Are you telling me that high completion percentage isn't good enough for you to consider him to be a good QB this year?

I was just pointing out that Manning and Guarantano, have very similar stats, behind similarly performing offensive lines, this season, relative to the fact that one is in the NFL and one is CFB.
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We are talking about overall QB Rating which is the composite of ALL facets of being a QB combined to rate the overall QB play. Do you know where Eli Manning is ranked ?

27th

There are 32 teams in the nfl so ...
 
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thegasman54 said:
We are talking about overall QB Rating which is the composite of ALL facets of being a QB combined to rate the overall QB play. Do you know where Eli Manning is ranked ?

27th

There are 32 teams in the nfl so ...
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ESPN's total QBR rating sure, NFL rating has him at 28 out of 58 rated QBs with a rating of 92.7; not the best but far from the worst.
 
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GBOVFL88 said:
Forgive my ignorance, but I cant tell if the (blue font) has a hidden meaning and is meant as a joke or is meant in all seriousness. LOL I have to say that JG is a work horse and is killing it as far as I am concerned based on line play and how much he is on his back. Putting Chryst in MIGHT give us another W or two in the short run, but meaningful snaps for JG improves on him as a player and sets us up for success next year when Chryst has graduated and JG is at the helm. Simply put, benching JG for Chryst would be a mistake. JG has the team behind him and has proven to be a tough guy who leads by example who is showing his team what it means to play tough through pain and adversity.

Again, if I missed some sarcasm from the (blue font) thing disregard my post. LOL

GBO!!
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Blue font is intended as just that, sarcasm or kidding... I myself have had a couple of posts that SHOULD have used blue font cause otherwise well its hard to tell when someone is kidding via a keyboard. Some actually use blue font and others (blue font).Hope that helps
 
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BeardedVol said:
It's interesting how similar JG's stats and situation are to those of Eli Manning's this year. Both have completion rates in the high 60's, low number of TDs, low number of interceptions, high passing YPA, both are playing behind poor offensive lines, and both have only won two games (of significance) this season.

There's debate on whether Manning should continue to start, but any discussion of JG's short comings is heresy to some, to the point that posters on here have resorted to claims of racism as a response to any criticism of JG's performances.
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Wow. What a terrible analogy. One is a veteran who has a HOF pedigree, is at the end of his career and has true game changers at the RB and WR. The other is playing in his first full season, under his 3rd OC, 2nd HC, 2nd S&C coach, a horrid OL, no elite playmakers and a rookie coaching staff.

The problem with most of the criticisms made by VN and other fans is that they are coming from those who are not trained well enough to really make them. When the coaches have decided who they believe is the better player, then that makes fans "criticisms" moot.
 
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BeardedVol said:
It's interesting how similar JG's stats and situation are to those of Eli Manning's this year. Both have completion rates in the high 60's, low number of TDs, low number of interceptions, high passing YPA, both are playing behind poor offensive lines, and both have only won two games (of significance) this season.

There's debate on whether Manning should continue to start, but any discussion of JG's short comings is heresy to some, to the point that posters on here have resorted to claims of racism as a response to any criticism of JG's performances.
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You've nailed 2 thirds of the JG camp.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Wow. What a terrible analogy. One is a veteran who has a HOF pedigree, is at the end of his career and has true game changers at the RB and WR. The other is playing in his first full season, under his 3rd OC, 2nd HC, 2nd S&C coach, a horrid OL, no elite playmakers and a rookie coaching staff.

The problem with most of the criticisms made by VN and other fans is that they are coming from those who are not trained well enough to really make them. When the coaches have decided who they believe is the better player, then that makes fans "criticisms" moot.
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Analogy is fine. It shows that cherry picking most stats does not paint the whole picture. People desperately want JG to be a great QB because UT is stuck with him for 2 more years. No sane person says "yeah, this is the guy I want leading the sports team I root for!"..

Maybe he can turn the corner next year and learn how to read a defense, or scramble effectively, or notice incoming pressure, or not stare down his receivers, or handle the speed of the game. One of the worst teams in Tennessee history beat two ranked teams this year, anything is possible.
 
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