Bombs found at Clinton and Soros Homes

Shall I recount to you the hundreds of posts in this forum over the last week -- or the many thread titles -- which attribute political threats and violence to Democrats, as a political party?
There's a lot of difference between calling people out for encouraging classless behavior and acknowledging crazy.

I don't blame Trump for mail bombs anymore than I blame the left for some nutjob shooting up a baseball field.
 
There's a lot of difference between encouraging classless behavior and somebody mailing pipe bombs.


A good argument can be made that the former is in large part a result of the latter.

Again, need I quote all of the GOPers who attacked HRC or any other Dem for suggesting confrontation with GOPers, and saying they were to blame for anything that got out of hand?

Sorry, but this is out of hand. And at least on the face of it sure seems like a result of a political agenda.
 
A good argument can be made that the former is in large part a result of the latter.

Again, need I quote all of the GOPers who attacked HRC or any other Dem for suggesting confrontation with GOPers, and saying they were to blame for anything that got out of hand?

Sorry, but this is out of hand. And at least on the face of it sure seems like a result of a political agenda.
Reminder
https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/06/politics/congressional-shooter-70-rounds/index.html
 
I’m sure mail handlers find it better to find bombs that won’t blow up.


The Soros thing they said was likely hand delivered. If the same group is doing all of these, presumably none were mailed. Even if not, the timing is awfully suspicious if its independent actors, which I doubt.
 
A good argument can be made that the former is in large part a result of the latter.

Again, need I quote all of the GOPers who attacked HRC or any other Dem for suggesting confrontation with GOPers, and saying they were to blame for anything that got out of hand?

Sorry, but this is out of hand. And at least on the face of it sure seems like a result of a political agenda.
That's a classic logical fallacy. Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Like I said, Democrats didn't cause Steve Scalise to get shot. Republicans didn't cause mail bombs. Crazy gonna just crazy sometimes.
 
I disagree. He can turn a corner here, if he wants to. If it is sincere and not read off the teleprompter, and if he sticks to it, it can both work and be a credit to him.

We will find out.
Exactly! I am willing to accept that he was being sincere earlier when he condemned this and spoke in favor of unity. Now, that goes out the window if he takes to the stage tonight and goes on a tangent about the fake news media, doesn't cut off the "CNN Sucks!" chants and says things such as "Knock the crap out of 'em will ya! I will pay your legal bills!"

He needs to be consistent and the fact is, the tone of his rallies is usually pretty hostile. He likes to play the role of victim and he likes to pick fights. He is very negative and has contributed to the division in the country as much as anyone has.
 
The Soros thing they said was likely hand delivered. If the same group is doing all of these, presumably none were mailed. Even if not, the timing is awfully suspicious if its independent actors, which I doubt.
I Soros wasn’t. I thought some were. Maybe not. Regardless, anyone finding these packages I’m sure would prefer they don’t blow up.
 
A good argument can be made that the former is in large part a result of the latter.

Again, need I quote all of the GOPers who attacked HRC or any other Dem for suggesting confrontation with GOPers, and saying they were to blame for anything that got out of hand?

Sorry, but this is out of hand. And at least on the face of it sure seems like a result of a political agenda.
I don't agree with that, but if I did you have to blame the other side as well to remain logically consistent. You have to say that it was Bernie Sanders' fault (or something similar like he "created the environment for") that guy shot Steve Scalise.
 
Why does it matter that there are better ways to build one?

The point is, someone, or someones, built and delivered them at all.
I don't know what you're talking about. I haven't made any comments on the manner in which they were built. All I read is that authorities stated they "appear" to be pipe bombs. Does that mean they only have the appearance of one, or that they are actually functioning pipe bombs?
 
I don't agree with that, but if I did you have to blame the other side as well to remain logically consistent. You have to say that it was Bernie Sanders' fault (or something similar like he "created the environment for") that guy shot Steve Scalise.


Both sides should cut out the rhetoric which even remotely suggests violence as a means to solve our differences. Blaming one or the other doesn't work well because "the other" can always point back to the reverse situation.
 
I don't know what you're talking about. I haven't made any comments on the manner in which they were built.



All I read is that authorities stated they "appear" to be pipe bombs. Does that mean they only have the appearance of one, or that they are actually functioning pipe bombs?


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Even within a single post you contradict yourself.
 
I don't agree with that, but if I did you have to blame the other side as well to remain logically consistent. You have to say that it was Bernie Sanders' fault (or something similar like he "created the environment for") that guy shot Steve Scalise.
What did Bernie say?
 
Both sides should cut out the rhetoric which even remotely suggests violence as a means to solve our differences. Blaming one or the other doesn't work well because "the other" can always point back to the reverse situation.
There's a big difference between Donald saying people should be "thrown out" of his rallies or Maxine calling for conservatives to be "confronted" in public and shooting a representative on a baseball field or mailing a pipe bomb to a politician.

The Scalise shooter, pipe bomb mailer, Jared Loughner (Gabby Giffords shooter), etc. likely would have done the stuff that they did no matter the temperature of the political rhetoric. These people are mentally ill and unstable. I'm not a big believer in this "the rhetoric is more overheated than it has ever been" narrative anyway.
 
Both sides should cut out the rhetoric which even remotely suggests violence as a means to solve our differences. Blaming one or the other doesn't work well because "the other" can always point back to the reverse situation.
Lmao. Trump tried to do that and the left melted down.
 
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