Pruitt must prove it

[rocytop2624]

I dont agree. Like i said in my op, there are things through 4 games which are concerning. But there's no need rehashing. I believe he took a step forward in his OJT of head coaching at Georgia.

Well what miracle do you want? He made adjustments on offense or as you say gets credit for it and the D is getting better. Do you want him to smile more on his show or during interviews?

 

[McDad]

Personally.. I think it is necessary.. Think about all the issues or obstacles it takes to build a team.. I don't think Pruitt can waste any time honestly.

I keep thinking about the WVU game.. Pruitt put freshman DBs back there knowing WVU could light it up.. I am now wondering if he wasn't as much worried about the win in the first game as he was getting those guys true experience to learn from.. Idk.. Just a thought I have had.. Pruitt has to quickly build for next year.. He also has to get top level recruits in.. That is not easy at this point.. Then develop those guys.. A big part of me thinks Pruitts focus this year is to mold the clay for next year.. I know he wants to win.. But I believe he is focusing on laying that clay down to be worked with at the moment..

If what you theorize is true, it could give a new appreciation of his calls to go for 2, try onsides, and go for it on 4th.
Appreciate the thought provoking.

 

[PrattvilleVol]

Pruitt, Taggart, Frost...all proven coaches....are all struggling in their 1st season. Saban struggled in his 1st season at Bama. Until these coaches get players that fit their scheme, that’s how it will be.

 

[volbeast33]

The book on CJP as UT HC is being written. I am not a blind devotee because of his DC prowess. A HC has to do more than simply coach Xs and Os. This season will be extremely challenging. I predicted us to finish 4-8. For me to buy in fully on CJP i want to see, at minimum, a team 1. prepared, 2. enthusiastic, and 3. improving.

I have been critical of what I've seen in games 1-4. No need to rehash it here. Even though watching UGA handle us with relative ease is always painful, I believe there was improvement.

Where did you see improvement?
Where are we still sucking wind?
Any of you who are in "wait and see" mode, does the improvement move CJP up a rung on the ladder of buy in for you?

I am 100% on board with Jeremy Pruitt.....I have watched him from afar for years about 3 years ago I was sure he would be the next great coaching hire.... I was overwhelmingly ecstatic when we hired him for this job. That being said.....he has his three years to show if he is the guy or not.

 

[McDad]

Well what miracle do you want? He made adjustments on offense or as you say gets credit for it and the D is getting better. Do you want him to smile more on his show or during interviews?

Haven't watched his shows. And only saw one interview. I dont think you will find any demand for "miracles" from me. I have articulated as clearly as i can what im looking for this year. I am not trying to upset anyone in this thread either; except for Behr. But he deserves it.

 

[McDad]

Pruitt, Taggart, Frost...all proven coaches....are all struggling in their 1st season. Saban struggled in his 1st season at Bama. Until these coaches get players that fit their scheme, that’s how it will be.

There's a difference in the coaches you listed, though.

 

[rocytop2624]

Haven't watched his shows. And only saw one interview. I dont think you will find any demand for "miracles" from me. I have articulated as clearly as i can what im looking for this year. I am not trying to upset anyone in this thread either; except for Behr. But he deserves it.

Well what a terrible terrible thread you should have just read the others and not even have started a thread. Thanks alot baby Jesus.

 

[McDad]

Well what a terrible terrible thread you should have just read the others and not even have started a thread. Thanks alot baby Jesus.

Seems like ive heard that before.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

The toughest part of listening rather than watching is Kessling/Priest dont usually call out the player by name when they have a glaring mistake.
I guess I'm not critiquing as much because of the talent and depth of UGA compared to us. The matchup with UF and WVU was much more balanced, imo.

Oh, I couldn't possibly follow a game listening to Kessling and Priest. Bob always seems a bit slow with the call.

Maybe I am being too hard on the players but I dont think I mentioned anything that those coaches won't bring to their attention during film study.

Kirkland in particular either didn't give good effort or had poor technique on 2 tackles that could have kept players out of the end zone. UGA most likely scores eventually but that's the type of thing I wouldn't want to see out of a leader of my defense.

Not necessarily discounting the talent discrepancy either. It is obvious the Vols have work to do in recruiting. That being said, UGA had an unsettled o line situation with Cleveland out and still breaking in a new RB committee. So they had a few issues too.

Actually think the talent discrepancy that was painfully on display Saturday and will continue through November is even more reason for the coaches to be even harder on the players.

If they expect to be competitive or pull an upset, it's going to take a perfect game from this team.

 

[rocytop2624]

Oh, I couldn't possibly follow a game listening to Kessling and Priest. Bob always seems a bit slow with the call.

Maybe I am being too hard on the players but I dont think I mentioned anything that those coaches won't bring to their attention during film study.

Kirkland in particular either didn't give good effort or had poor technique on 2 tackles that could have kept players out of the end zone. UGA most likely scores eventually but that's the type of thing I wouldn't want to see out of a leader of my defense.

Not necessarily discounting the talent discrepancy either. It is obvious the Vols have work to do in recruiting. That being said, UGA had an unsettled o line situation with Cleveland out and still breaking in a new RB committee. So they had a few issues too.

Actually think the talent discrepancy that was painfully on display Saturday and will continue through November is even more reason for the coaches to be even harder on the players.

If they expect to be competitive or pull an upset, it's going to take a perfect game from this team.

Someone has taught our defense to grab and swat at the ball but while they do this they are being carried for alot of hidden yards and touchdowns. That's a bad habit that coach is trying to get out of there head.

 

[PrattvilleVol]

There's a difference in the coaches you listed, though.

The difference with all of them is that they are trying to run a pro style offense with HUNH players. Pruitt is best with a 3-4 defense but doesn’t have the players to run it yet. “Trust the process”. I believe this.

 

[McDad]

The difference with all of them is that they are trying to run a pro style offense with HUNH players. Pruitt is best with a 3-4 defense but doesn’t have the players to run it yet. “Trust the process”. I believe this.

That...and those others have been a HC before. Plus they have a track record of success. Except maybe Taggart...i dont know much of anything about him.

 

[MustafaRasta]

Except maybe Taggart...i dont know much of anything about him.

You're welcome

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Is talent deficiency limiting the playcalling in your opinion?

Badly. We dont have WRs that get separation on a consistent basis, nor do they have dependable hands. Nor do we have a truly explosive WR that can stretch a defense. QB play needs to improve. TEs need a lot of work. Our OL is garbage. RBs are good but there isnt any real homerun threats in our backfield.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Serious question...how is this thread any different than the previous 514 identical ones?

Pruitt is the Coach for the foreseeable future and, short of him robbing a bank or punching a reporter (Finebaum excluded), he is here for at least the next five years. I think he will be allowed to stay much longer but time will tell.

So can we just take a deep breath here and enjoy the rest of one season without second and third guessing every call and decision made by our staff.

I can't remember hardly single game week since Fulmer's final two seasons when it hasn't been wall to wall navel gazing about every facet of our coaching effort. For the rest of 2018 at least, let's just BREATHE a little.

 

[McDad]

Serious question...how is this thread any different than the previous 514 identical ones?

Pruitt is the Coach for the foreseeable future and, short of him robbing a bank or punching a reporter (Finebaum excluded), he is here for at least the next five years. I think he will be allowed to stay much longer but time will tell.

So can we just take a deep breath here and enjoy the rest of one season without second and third guessing every call and decision made by our staff.

I can't remember hardly single game week since Fulmer's final two seasons when it hasn't been wall to wall navel gazing about every facet of our coaching effort. For the rest of 2018 at least, let's just BREATHE a little.

Nobody is here suggesting CJP be shown the door. Are we not allowed to discuss the coach; even redundantly?

 

[OrangeTsar]

Nobody is here suggesting CJP be shown the door. Are we not allowed to discuss the coach; even redundantly?

sigh....sure...why not.

I just need a break from coach judging.

It's basically been topic A for the past 12 years.

 

[ptcarter]

What I saw while in Athens yesterday helps me understand why Lane Kiffin secreted himself away from Knoxville in the middle of the night. He knew something...................
SMDH, but this football program is pretty dang frustrating.

Dunno... I think he was the whipping boy grabbing a job that was in a state of being hammered by the NCAA. Pete Carrol did an Urban Meyer and bailed in the nick of time. Lane then began a career of not knowing if he had a seat on the team bus, both at USC and BAMA. Lane is a west coast guy and so was his wife. He wasn't in tune with Tennessee tradition and didn't seem like he even cared about it. The timing of his departure sure screwed up a recruiting class. It was a line of dominoes falling after that. I don't so much think he knew something, but I do think he contributed to the state of the program as it is now.

 

[Behr]

sigh....sure...why not.

I just need a break from coach judging.

It's basically been topic A for the past 12 years.

To be fair, this has also been covered twice in this thread by two different posters, you make the third. And if you need a break from coach judging, I would suggest staying out of a frigging thread titled "Pruitt must prove it." I mean, what did this think this was going to be about?

WTF is wrong with some if us? Holy fork.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Let me summarize the way I see things with a small analogy.

We are Volnation are on our honeymoon with our fifth wife in the past 12 years. And we are sitting around talking with our best buds about the perceived possible faults of said wife number 5. All the while we are still making alimony payments to wife number 4. How do you think that story is going to end?

Like it or not, this is the way we Vol fans look to basically sane people not wearing Orange colored glasses.

Discussing the possibility that we may eventually ditch the current coach, even hypothetically, leads to people thinking this is a serious option.

The fact is we have went through coaches like Liz Taylor went through husbands. Granted, there were good reasons to make those changes at UT but we have got to put down some stakes here and make a commitment to a long haul.

Pruitt is Plan A. For the next five to 8 years at least, there can be no plan B. "But that might kill UT football if he screws up" some will say. Well, i hate to break it to you, but this program is currently in ICU and hooked to a ventilator. The patient will not survive another operation. So pray that Pruitt works out and get your backside 100% behind him and his staff because if he goes down, we all go down, for a looooong time.

That is all.

 

[peerless98]

Pruitt is implementing his system even before he has the proper players for it. Good strategy?

I think it's a great strategy! He is trying to create a winning culture, and to do that you need a true system. While some adjustments are being made according to the roster, he is establishing an approach for the future. If you look at the great programs around the country, they rely on a proven system and recruit for that system. They rarely have bad years because the players on the bench are learning the system for when they get their chance when others leave the program or get injured.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Pruitt is implementing his system even before he has the proper players for it. Good strategy?

Yes. It is. Looks at it this way. Implementing a new system is traumatic to a program and will cost you some games. So do you get the pain of transition in early when you don't have the right players yet and absorb some losses that you were going to suffer anyway due to lack of talent? Or do you kick the can down the road by keeping your old system until you get the right players THEN absorb losses that should have been wins due to your better talent?

Rip the band aid off now. You don't eliminate the trauma to the program by putting it off to a time when it will inflict losses when you otherwise would be in a position to compete for a championship. The new talent grows into the new system organically.

 

[wuwh_08]

The book on CJP as UT HC is being written. I am not a blind devotee because of his DC prowess. A HC has to do more than simply coach Xs and Os. This season will be extremely challenging. I predicted us to finish 4-8. For me to buy in fully on CJP i want to see, at minimum, a team 1. prepared, 2. enthusiastic, and 3. improving.

I have been critical of what I've seen in games 1-4. No need to rehash it here. Even though watching UGA handle us with relative ease is always painful, I believe there was improvement.

Where did you see improvement?
Where are we still sucking wind?
Any of you who are in "wait and see" mode, does the improvement move CJP up a rung on the ladder of buy in for you?

Bro, the prologue is still being written. We aren’t even close to chapters in the book of Pruitt. Hopefully discussing the rough start will be be addressed in the epilogue but also talks about all the years of success and championships achieved and continued success that should follow.

 

[I_Bleed_Orange77]

No change in how I view him.
He has a lot fb knowledge but I admit, I won't know how that translates to the HC position until he's had some time and recruits.

Defense is progressing but on the field way too much.
I like that he's calling out offensive play calling. We didn't run on every first down this week and I bet we won't throw a lot of ill timed passes behind the line of scrimmage next week.

The other negatives are the same as we've rehashed.

When did he call out the play calling? I must have missed that.

 

[dirtyearlee1]

I really like Pruitt as our HC so far. Seems to have something that neither Butch or Dooley had. i dont know what that is, maybe his desire to build something and wn so badly. So far this season the team has seemed to improve little by little, with the exception of the Florida game. I was proud of the teams effort during the UGA game.