Kavanaugh Confirmation

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lawgator1 said:
Oh yeah, I remember the part where he chastised the GOP.
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as usual you missed the point because you wanted to.

he did call them out for not being fooled by the shizshow that Dems orchestrated here. Ford was just a pawn that was entirely expendable.

Past sins of R's don't justify current sins of D's just as the reverse will be true when the tables turn. It's complete horse sh!t. If you can't be honest and recognize that IN THIS INSTANCE the Dems were playing dirty as hell then you aren't a serious observer
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Ford is a stooge who was thrown under the bus for political gain by the Democrats.
Her life will never be the same because Finestine chose to leak this late instead of handling it confidentialy in early July.
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I'll bet tomorrow morning, half the Democrats on that committee won't be able to remember her entire name. And for some reason it was important to use all three.
 
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utvols88 said:
that's why I asked the nonparty voters their thoughts and not Rs or Ds.
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I'm a registered I. I confess I lean more to the Republicans because I'm a staunch conservative, especially economically. I had doubts about the validity of the accusations when they initially broke. I was however willing to keep an open mind. When it appeared that the Ford stuff was losing traction, and the other, outlandish accusations started coming, at that point I was convinced that this was nothing but a desperation play by the Dems. This made me come to the conclusion that it was all a smear campaign and non of it had much validity.

As for today, the Dems looked absolutely pathetic and they almost had a guilty and look on their faces. Almost ashamed at what they were doing. Graham brought the heat and it was nice to see someone stand up for what was right.
 
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Vol737 said:
The Dems have no interest in her other than to use her as a pawn. Dems are bullying her and she doesn’t even know it. Otherwise they could’ve been had their FBI investigation starting six weeks ago had they been seriously interested in HER vs character assasination to try to push this beyond the midterms, hoping they win house or senate and then stonewall for two more years.
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She testified, credibly, that she did not want to be public until things advanced so far. Feinstein says she respected that request.

You may not like it.

You may want to say its proof of a Dem plot.

But dont then get high and mighty about how you believe her but just thinks she's mistaken. That makes no sense.
 
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lawgator1 said:
So Graham gets credit for calling "shame on you for partisan politics" by being partisan? Please.

Look, I dont know who to believe. I do think that the Republicans are well within their rights to vote him out and confirm.

Be sure to understand that. They can choose to vote for him. I have no problem with that.

What I do have a problem with is screeching that Ford was a partisan plant and part of the Clintons getting revenge for something in the 90s. That was just cat lady irrational right there.

So vote for him. Fine. Say it was all made up that's just idiotic.
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Is he qualified to serve on the SCOTUS?
 
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Grand Vol said:
Is he qualified to serve on the SCOTUS?
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Sure.

Like I said, no problem if they want to vote for him.

Just spare us the "but we really wanted to give her a fair shake" no sense, especially combined with "but the Dems set it all up!"

Just absurd. And fooling no one.
 
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lawgator1 said:
She testified, credibly, that she did not want to be public until things advanced so far. Feinstein says she respected that request.

You may not like it.

You may want to say its proof of a Dem plot.

But dont then get high and mighty about how you believe her but just thinks she's mistaken. That makes no sense.
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Agreed. She didn’t want it public. But, DiFi, nahhhh
I haven’t heard that much stumbling over words since obama.
She leaked the ****.

You and I both know it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
She testified, credibly, that she did not want to be public until things advanced so far. Feinstein says she respected that request.

You may not like it.

You may want to say its proof of a Dem plot.

But dont then get high and mighty about how you believe her but just thinks she's mistaken. That makes no sense.
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Ford believes this happened. I'm pretty sure about that.

She contacted Dems and that's where the Dem plot comes in. They saw a golden ticket and since Ford contacted them the strategy has been how to maximumly use this rather than get to the truth of the matter. It's rotten as hell.
 
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This was a good day for Republicans. Although I believe Graham did a good job with his outrage stunt, I think after the sound bites grow tired, people will just remember that he is sometimes a hothead. Kavanaugh did a good job, was totally believable with his emotional roller coaster ride. He'll come out looking worse for the wear, I believe, but will get the confirmation too, IMO.

The Dems didn't have much to be proud of other than Ford, who was also totally believable even with her story being so thin. With Kavanaugh, they didn't have much of an angle other than to try to pin him down on a drinking problem, which didn't get any traction. Trying to get him to agree that an FBI investigation would be good for everyone got no bites, obviously.

I don't think much will change over this other than the probable confirmation. Maybe a few more people declaring themselves Independents. That's where I am, will never register as an R or D.
 
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Very simple argument for withdrawing the Kavanaugh nomination:

(1) The integrity and legitimacy of the SCOTUS is tantamount. "Clearing" Kavanaugh's name is not.
(2) Kavanaugh's name, rightly or wrongly, is tarnished.
(3) Confirming him is not going to clear his name.
(4) However, confirming him will harm the integrity and legitimacy of the SCOTUS in the eyes of many, especially after his conspiratorial tirade today.
(5) Because the integrity and legitimacy of the SCOTUS is more important than clearing Kavanaugh's name (and confirming him will not clear his name), he should be withdrawn.
 
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