Kavanaugh Confirmation

[hndog609]

I could have asked the same thing about his son. Inherent bias is something you wish to ignore. That is why she is a liar and he is the victim. That is the narrative being spun in this thread and you are just going along with it.

I could have asked the same thing about his son. Inherent bias is something you wish to ignore. That is why she is a liar and he is the victim. That is the narrative being spun in this thread and you are just going along with it.

No. It's been asked multiple times why wouldn't someone's daughter's word be taken as true based merely on her making that assertion. The counter argument is if this girl was naming one's son should his denial just be ignored cause, you know, the girl's claim it happened should be considered more reliable than his saying it didn't? To YOU (as the parent for either) the tendency will be biased to whichever side of the he said/she said you fall. The real issue, as it regards K, is that neither actually applies. (The son's denial argument absolutely negates the daughter's assertion barring evidence to the contrary)

We aren't talking about sons or daughters. If you're bringing an accusation that can tear a person down (doesn't matter what that accusation may be or who is being accused) the onus is on the accuser in the eyes of anyone that isn't biased. Those are the only people of any real value when dealing with a situation like this one.

 

[0nelilreb]

Trump being Trump - taking questions about K. and wading right into it.

Hirono gonna lose her mind.

As a Buddhist , she should take some time to seek enlightenment . Curious , when you rub Buddha’s tummy for good luck without getting his permission first ... is that inappropriate ? Asking for a friend

 

[1972 Grad]

You can almost hear KellyAnne yelling from DC for them to get the muzzle on him.

Apply more steam.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Absolutely. Don't justify one side's delay tactics while praising the other.

Did the Republicans try to destroy the man?

 

[Mick]

No. It's been asked multiple times why wouldn't someone's daughter's word be taken as true based merely on her making that assertion. The counter argument is if this girl was naming one's son should his denial just be ignored cause, you know, the girl's claim it happened should be considered more reliable than his saying it didn't? To YOU (as the parent for either) the tendency will be biased to whichever side of the he said/she said you fall. The real issue, as it regards K, is that neither actually applies. (The son's denial argument absolutely negates the daughter's assertion barring evidence to the contrary)

We aren't talking about sons or daughters. If you're bringing an accusation that can tear a person down (doesn't matter what that accusation may be or who is being accused) the onus is on the accuser in the eyes of anyone that isn't biased. Those are the only people of any real value when dealing with a situation like this one.

Most people want an investigation and witness testimony. Not the Senate Republicans nor the President nor Kavanaugh want the investigation nor witness testimony other than the accused and accuser. They want to keep it as a he said/she said and write the narrative in the media.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Most people want an investigation and witness testimony. Not the Senate Republicans nor the President nor Kavanaugh want the investigation nor witness testimony other than the accused and accuser. They want to keep it as a he said/she said and write the narrative in the media.

Absolutely nothing is stopping her from walking into one of her local CA offices of the FBI and issuing a statement under oath. Your complete narrative is false.

 

[TheDeeble]

What witness testimony? Has there been anything from either side other than character claims and "heard it from someone else" claims?

 

[T-TownVol]

Most people want an investigation and witness testimony. Not the Senate Republicans nor the President nor Kavanaugh want the investigation nor witness testimony other than the accused and accuser. They want to keep it as a he said/she said and write the narrative in the media.

This statement is just plain ignorant.

 

[0nelilreb]

Most people want an investigation and witness testimony. Not the Senate Republicans nor the President nor Kavanaugh want the investigation nor witness testimony other than the accused and accuser. They want to keep it as a he said/she said and write the narrative in the media.

I’ve said this once before but I’ll ask again , what do you think is out there that the 6 FBI investigations , all the lawyers , Dems, journalists , reporters , and want to be book authors haven’t found yet ? Besides Trump this is probably the most “ investigated “ man on this planet right now .

 

[Mick]

Absolutely nothing is stopping her from walking into one of her local CA offices of the FBI and issuing a statement under oath. Your complete narrative is false.

I want to see it. You know transparency. You don't feel that way and by your statement you prove that is the true narrative.

 

[BeecherVol]

I want to see it. You know transparency. You don't feel that way and by your statement you prove that is the true narrative.

You want to see her cut out the politicians and go straight to the authorities?

 

[volinbham]

Most people want an investigation and witness testimony. Not the Senate Republicans nor the President nor Kavanaugh want the investigation nor witness testimony other than the accused and accuser. They want to keep it as a he said/she said and write the narrative in the media.

There has been an investigation - just not done by the FBI. As is common practice the Committee does massive amounts of research on the nominees. The Committee conducted interviews with all alleged to be at the party. (Well all but Ford). The Dems were invited to participate and they declined. (wonder why?)

Kavanaugh has NOT said he doesn't want an FBI investigation. That is spin. He's said he wants to be investigated in whatever manner the Committee decides but regardless is eager to tell his side of the story.

As for the FBI investigation as of now the accuser has not given any testimony to the Committee. That is typically the first step that starts an FBI inquiry (see Anita Hill).

 

[bamawriter]

Most people want an investigation and witness testimony. Not the Senate Republicans nor the President nor Kavanaugh want the investigation nor witness testimony other than the accused and accuser. They want to keep it as a he said/she said and write the narrative in the media.

Actually, there have been sworn statements from the witnesses Ford named. I imagine they'll be entered into the record on Thursday.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I want to see it. You know transparency. You don't feel that way and by your statement you prove that is the true narrative.

Nope! The first step in an investigation is a statement for the record by the accuser. She refuses to do that. Nothing is stopping her from taking that step.

If she were to actually go to the FBI and issue a statement and then there was no action I would give her some credibility.

And I want to see her testify tomorrow too. Care to bet me if she does or not? If she won’t walk into a local FBI office and issue a statement there’s no way in hell she flys to DC to do so.

 

[T-TownVol]

There has been an investigation - just not done by the FBI. As is common practice the Committee does massive amounts of research on the nominees. The Committee conducted interviews with all alleged to be at the party. (Well all but Ford). The Dems were invited to participate and they declined. (wonder why?)

Kavanaugh has NOT said he doesn't want an FBI investigation. That is spin. He's said he wants to be investigated in whatever manner the Committee decides but regardless is eager to tell his side of the story.

As for the FBI investigation as of now the accuser has not given any testimony to the Committee. That is typically the first step that starts an FBI inquiry (see Anita Hill).

Like I said, Mick's comment is ignorant.

 

[volinbham]

Actually, there have been sworn statements from the witnesses Ford named. I imagine they'll be entered into the record on Thursday.

Absolutely they will.

 

[evillawyer]

That’s the biggest lie I’ve seen you tell on here yet .

OK, if it's a trial, is this a criminal or civil trial? What are the applicable rules of evidence and procedure? What's the standard of proof? I'll hang up and wait for your answer.

 

[Mick]

I’ve said this once before but I’ll ask again , what do you think is out there that the 6 FBI investigations , all the lawyers , Dems, journalists , reporters , and want to be book authors haven’t found yet ? Besides Trump this is probably the most “ investigated “ man on this planet right now .

Not by the Senate committee tasked with vetting the candidate. Their desperation to force him through at this point is on full display. What's the rush lilreb?

 

[volinbham]

OK, if it's a trial, is this a criminal or civil trial? What are the applicable rules of evidence and procedure? What's the standard of proof? I'll hang up and wait for your answer.

It is more akin to a trial (being a hearing) than a job interview. (your claim).

 

[volinbham]

Not by the Senate committee tasked with vetting the candidate. Their desperation to force him through at this point is on full display. What's the rush lilreb?

What's the rush to have the FBI get involved when the accuser hasn't even made a statement to the Committee? If she gives credible enough testimony an FBI investigation could be ordered.

What's the rush? Why delay hearing from her?

 

[hndog609]

Most people want an investigation and witness testimony. Not the Senate Republicans nor the President nor Kavanaugh want the investigation nor witness testimony other than the accused and accuser. They want to keep it as a he said/she said and write the narrative in the media.

If this were true why is it still very much in the air that (including wagers even) that she's even going to show up to testify. I'm not exaggerating in the least when I say I've seen nothing but a huge dearth of honest interest in this being genuinely and honestly investigated.

 

[0nelilreb]

OK, if it's a trial, is this a criminal or civil trial? What are the applicable rules of evidence and procedure? What's the standard of proof? I'll hang up and wait for your answer.

The Dems made it a trial of public opinion . They have nothing at this point but he said she said but still managed to convict him already in the media and public opinion . The only standard by which the man can be proven innocent now is if she can’t back up her story with fact . That still won’t be enough for the left and the media which will keep pushing the victim card . I don’t see hi you can honesty say you don’t think left is demonizing this man in the media and with statements from congressman saying the burden of proof is on K . I know you’ve seen where they said that .

 

[evillawyer]

It is more akin to a trial (being a hearing) than a job interview. (your claim).

No, it's closer to a job interview. There are no rules of procedure, there are no rules of evidence, there are no findings of fact or law. The only similarity to a trial is that those offering testimony are under oath.

 

[volfanjustin]

Not by the Senate committee tasked with vetting the candidate. Their desperation to force him through at this point is on full display. What's the rush lilreb?

Because you fascist have already smeared this man's name long enough, time to shut you all up and get him confirmed. Vote needs to happen Friday

 

[0nelilreb]

Not by the Senate committee tasked with vetting the candidate. Their desperation to force him through at this point is on full display. What's the rush lilreb?

I don’t have a rush , I also don’t tolerate a party that knows the law but still says in this case you should believe her because she’s a woman and the burden of proof lies with the accused , they tend to push me the other direction. When your case is weak you see things like that said .