Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[Darth_Shiveman]

Random thoughts:

Helton getting paid over 1 million per year is the most laughably Tennessee thing ever. It’s painfully obvious that he doesn’t have a knack for playcalling.

Smith needs to be at OG. I know he’s been banged up a bit, but he’s just not a LT. Maybe sliding him back inside helps us on 1st and 2nd down when we run it between the tackles.

The Sapp thing is especially weird since he’s never been a headache for coaches before.


This is just a way bigger rebuild than any of us wanted to admit. We’re just gonna need 3-4 years of recruiting and development to get to the point where we can compete week in week out. We may end up needing some staff adjustments on offense if Helton can’t be a fast learner, though


Stoops and UK might be a model of what we’re gonna have to hope for from Pruitt and this rebuild. He was a guy who had worked with some great coaches, but had no HC experience. Year one was about as bad as things could get. Next two years weren’t great, but eventually the culture he wanted took root and you could see development the next two years. Continuity has been huge for them and now they’re in a position to have a shot at their best season in decades.

 

[volatil]

Some people were leaving in the second qtr to beat the halftime rush.

We left when Florida scores 40

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

No, they looked completely ill equipped. Gameplan (or adjustments) were crap. I’m not sure how the present staff gets a passing grade on this one.

How do you adjust with this bunch of players?

What adjustment can you make with guys who can't secure a ball, block, tackle, cover etc etc etc..?

 

[jakez4ut]

Today is not Pruitts fault. This is all on his predecessors imo.

it is.

but it isn't. you can't have 6 turnovers and a safety and say we're well prepared. we made FL look like a well rounded, veteran, top 15 football team tonight. they're not.

i'm all for giving pruitt his chance, i do think this staff at it's core are good Football coaches.

but they did not have this team prepared, and the game plan was null and void after the 1st two series and i don't know they made the adjustments necessary.

i give them credit for being aggressive.

but does it really matter with 6 turnovers? were you aggressive or desperate? and how on Earth do you come out and fumble the 2nd half kickoff when you turned it over 4 times in the 1st half???

i'll never again call our shot against florida. never. i'm in perpetual "show me" mode when it comes to that game from now on. it has never mattered how good or bad either team is, who coaches the game, where it's played....etc....bad things happen to the team in orange and white.

i'm just really deflated after tonight. where do you find hope in that performance??????

 

[InVOLuntary]

No, they looked completely ill equipped. Gameplan (or adjustments) were crap. I’m not sure how the present staff gets a passing grade on this one.

This is all their fault. This was a massive failure all around. The coaches inexperience showed tonight imo.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Where’s Ron to blow smoke up our ass

Gucci with the CeCe Jefferson at Ron's knees.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

This is all their fault. This was a massive failure all around. The coaches inexperience showed tonight imo.

Here we go..

 

[jakez4ut]

Some people were leaving in the second qtr to beat the halftime rush.

ugh. sad but true. i have my in laws in town, i had neighbors over...we did a big cook out. mid way thru the 2nd qtr it was just me and my buddy (who's a GA fan) watching, and all he could do was be consultive. he was literally just hanging out so i wouldn't be sitting there watching by myself. lol. good friend. even for a GA fan.

 

[Jimmy Football]

This is all their fault. This was a massive failure all around. The coaches inexperience showed tonight imo.

Not all their fault, but they shoulder plenty of blame.

 

[volatil]

I hate where we are.

But we are here. We have no choice but go through this $#!+ again. Have to give him time.

Feels like I’ve posted this 3 or 4 times before

 

[Chief Vol 13]

He was insane to take on this job, it is probably going to ruin a promising career, maybe several careers. This team is everything I thought it was, and hoped it wasn't.

I don't believe any coach in the world would be doing any better with this bunch. It is just a broken, hapless and hopeless group of guys that can't seem to learn how to play football.

I applaud Pruitt for having the courage and confidence to take on this monster of a rebuild, but I wouldn't doubt he is sitting somewhere thinking he has made a huge miscalculation.

I said before the season that it didn't matter who the coach was, this team isn't winning more than 7 games. Got called all sorts of things for saying it'd be one heck of an accomplishment if this team made a bowl. Folks were pretending like this staff was going to come in here in one off season and turn crap around. It doesn't work way. Losing cultures like this take time to fix.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Not all their fault, but they shoulder plenty of blame.

When I said all I meant players and coaches.

 

[McGeesPub]

Here we go..

They will have more opportunities to prove themselves and their abilities, but tonight was not one where they did successfully did so.

 

[Catbone]

I hate where we are.

But we are here. We have no choice but go through this $#!+ again. Have to give him time.

Feels like I’ve posted this 3 or 4 times before

We have lol

 

[volfaninpa]

UT is what the University of Colorado and the University of Washington had become. Championship winners who suffered through a decade or longer of losing. The fanbase deserves so much better but won't get it for at least 3-5 years at the earliest. Hopefully, this is the bottom, not that this team will win any more games save Charlotte, but hopefully they won't play as awful even against the teams that certainly are better than them. That's my hope. My fear is that Pruitt isn't going to be any better than Jones in the long run. Sure he knows more about defense than Butch and comes with a championship pedigree, but if they aren't putting their players (primarily talking offense) in their best positions to try and make plays, then he's no better than Butch trying to run his 'spread' with Justin Worley running a zone read scheme.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

They will have more opportunities to prove themselves and their abilities, but tonight was not one where they did successfully did so.

Whatever..there are a huge group of "non" players on this team that are coach killers.

 

[KB5252]

This team has not looked well prepared in any game thus far this season.

I realize this team has real limitations but there are staffs out there doing much more with less. I am not giving up on this staff just yet but particularly on offense I cannot say I have much faith in this staff so far.

This staff better find a way to get more out of their players or we won't be getting any much needed help via recruiting. We'll be lucky to hang out to what we have.

 

[Smokey123]

I wonder if Pruitt has called Freeze yet

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Today is not Pruitts fault. This is all on his predecessors imo.

Gotta place some blame on coaching. I can live with the defensive performance for the most part because they were put in bad situations pretty much from the get go (and low key nobody is even mentioning how ridiculous they were with the holding on a few of their chunk plays).

But the offensive gameplanning and playcalling has been pretty poor thus far this season. Our offense shouldn’t be world beaters, but overly predictable playcalling has hurt us badly at times. I haven’t seen the offense do a good job putting guys in a position to succeed yet. Some of the personnel decisions have been head scratchers, too.

For the life of me, I can’t understand why our offensive staffcant just accept that our OL is never gonna be successful if we put them in situations where the defense knows what’s coming. We’ve gotta work the short game a bit more passing and change up our tendencies on 1st and 2nd down.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

This team has not looked well prepared in any game thus far this season.

I realize this team has real limitations but there are staffs out there doing much more with less. I am not giving up on this staff just yet but particularly on offense I cannot say I have much faith in this staff so far.

This staff better find a way to get more out of their players or we won't be getting any much needed help via recruiting. We'll be lucky to hang out to what we have.

Here we go...like I just said..."coach killers"

 

[Smokey123]

Today is not Pruitts fault. This is all on his predecessors imo.

Weird, Ppl we’re calling already calling Mehlan CBJ 2.0 after the UK loss

Lol but to be serious, there’s still a lot of coaching errors. Not playing to our (very few) strengths shows that. Having massive amounts of turnovers and mistakes does too. Is that last part bcuz of CBJ? Partly but not all

 

[Chief Vol 13]

UT is what the University of Colorado and the University of Washington had become. Championship winners who suffered through a decade or longer of losing. The fanbase deserves so much better but won't get it for at least 3-5 years at the earliest. Hopefully, this is the bottom, not that this team will win any more games save Charlotte, but hopefully they won't play as awful even against the teams that certainly are better than them. That's my hope. My fear is that Pruitt isn't going to be any better than Jones in the long run. Sure he knows more about defense than Butch and comes with a championship pedigree, but if they aren't putting their players (primarily talking offense) in their best positions to try and make plays, then he's no better than Butch trying to run his 'spread' with Justin Worley running a zone read scheme.

My fear is he's Will Muschamp at Florida. Can put a good defense on the field, but is pretty lacking when it comes to offensive football. Helton is looking like a bad hire. If I'm not mistaken, I think Saban actually replaced both of his coordinators after his first year though. I could see Pruitt telling Helton to take a hike if things don't improve.

 

[jakez4ut]

Random thoughts:

Helton getting paid over 1 million per year is the most laughably Tennessee thing ever. It’s painfully obvious that he doesn’t have a knack for playcalling.

Smith needs to be at OG. I know he’s been banged up a bit, but he’s just not a LT. Maybe sliding him back inside helps us on 1st and 2nd down when we run it between the tackles.

The Sapp thing is especially weird since he’s never been a headache for coaches before.


This is just a way bigger rebuild than any of us wanted to admit. We’re just gonna need 3-4 years of recruiting and development to get to the point where we can compete week in week out. We may end up needing some staff adjustments on offense if Helton can’t be a fast learner, though


Stoops and UK might be a model of what we’re gonna have to hope for from Pruitt and this rebuild. He was a guy who had worked with some great coaches, but had no HC experience. Year one was about as bad as things could get. Next two years weren’t great, but eventually the culture he wanted took root and you could see development the next two years. Continuity has been huge for them and now they’re in a position to have a shot at their best season in decades.

we're not going to be that patient. and it's almost insulting to ask us to conitnue to be, if i'm being honest.

i'm sick of this.

we see teams every year have these magical turn around seasons. or pull huge upsets.

but never us. we're always "next year'.

i'm sick of it. i've been patient. i go to games. i make game day a big deal. we all wear orange. we fly flags off the house. we do what fans do. we're die hard.

i'm effing tired of losing. all. the. freaking. time.

that's it. just win. hell, just be competitive. i'd settle for that at this point. don't be 3 TD's worse thatn what will likely be the 4th best team in the East. at best, the 3rd.

 

[Jimmy Football]

When I said all I meant players and coaches.

I agree. Everyone responsible from Pruitt down to the practice squad.

 

[Smokey123]

My fear is he's Will Muschamp at Florida. Can put a good defense on the field, but is pretty lacking when it comes to offensive football. Helton is looking like a bad hire. If I'm not mistaken, I think Saban actually replaced both of his coordinators after his first year though. I could see Pruitt telling Helton to take a hike if things don't improve.

Hire Freeze and let him do whatever the heck he wants on O and let’s ride