Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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i think a more important issue will be that of run blitzing. we start winning 1st and 2nd down and put the ball in Franks' hands on 3rd and long, then you can be more opprutnistic with your pass rush and whatever blitz packages you might wanna run. especially when you get them behind the chains. those opportunities will be there thru out the game, so i think they'll pick their spots to be really aggressive on passing downs, and more often than not probably run blitz a bit more. jmo.

FL has skill at WR, and as athletic as Taylor, Thompson, Warrior, Sham are, i don't know how often we're gonna want those guys on islands. we will play man, sure. but i can't see us just throwing the two freshmen out there and say "don't get beat"....lol.

disguising coverages, who's going to drop in to coverage, who's gonna stay in run support, etc...i expect we'll try to confuse Franks a bit and see if we can't bait him in to some mistakes.

i'm sure FL will try to do the same with JG.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
Like many others I've been trying to figure out our offensive line. This is what I've got so far and it's just my opinion.

I continue to disagree with the idea that we don’t have a good offensive line. I think it is way too premature to make that determination one way or the other. I do however think it is likely correct to suggest that our offensive line is probably some measure of distance away from being “ready” for the defenses we’re going to be facing over the next few weeks. The good thing is barring injury we should see improvement to some degree from week to week. Jmo.

This game should give us a good measuring stick for the progress of our offensive line. As I understand what we’re doing our offensive scheme sometimes calls for gap blocking and sometimes (probably most often depending on play calling) uses zone blocking. Zone blocking is as I read more difficult to master because assignments aren’t always cut and dry and both communication among our linemen and the running back’s ability to read blocks are critical for success.

Experience, or reps, is the best teacher for linemen. They have to be able to make quick decisions in the chaotic moment right after the ball is snapped and they need to have a really good feel for what their fellow linemen are going to be deciding for themselves. Who is going to block who? This is not a static contest between offensive and defensive personnel; it is extremely dynamic with a lot of motion, some expected, some not. Blocking assignments are also not always static.

The most complicated part of the offense is the line of scrimmage and it’s also arguably the most difficult to master. This is the primary reason youth and/or inexperience on the offensive line is such a liability for the offense. It’s a lot easier to plug and play skill position personnel than it is on the line. The offensive line has a best five unit and a second best five unit. It doesn’t matter who the individual players are; it matters which five are the best unit and which five are the second best unit. Even finding that out is a discovery process that takes time and film evaluation.

We have limited starts/snaps for all of our offensive linemen in their current positions in this scheme. They have precious little time playing together. I’m not sure how many snaps are necessary to develop a first rate offensive line but I think from a snap count perspective for the same five unit it’s probably at least a few hundred if not more. As a general rule an offensive line is not built overnight. Interestingly, some coaches claim talent is arguably not as important as know-how and/or experience, five guys knowing each other well enough and knowing what has to get done that they are able to work together to accomplish a unit objective.

It is probably going to be really easy over the next few weeks to on occasions criticize the performance of our offensive line because it’s a steep learning curve that they are and have been facing so I think it might be more enjoyable from a fan perspective during this continuing time of growing pains to focus on those plays where it looks like they got that one right. Jmo.
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Cliffs please.
 
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GoVolsDR said:
I'm not a huge fan of gator, but I like to dredge inch sized pieces in corn meal, then pan fry at medium-high heat in oil with a high smoking point (I prefer avocado oil), and then top with Sauce Piquante. If you can't find Sauce Piquante, or don't want to go to the trouble of preparing a roux based sauce, regular hot sauce will go just fine with the gator.
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What he said but with a Chipotle Mayo dipping sauce instead. Recipe:
  • 1/2 cup mayonnaise
  • 1/4 cup sour cream
  • 2 chipotle chiles in adobo sauce (from can)
  • 2 tablespoon freshly squeezed lime juice
Great with fries too. :)
 
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WinginFlorida said:
However interesting these stats might sound, they smell a bit to me. Someone's manipulating numbers or cherry picking plays, IMO.

According to the above numbers, Franks has 33 attempts where he's faced either a blitz or normal pressure from four-men. Yet he has another 44 attempts, which represent a significant majority of his total pass attempts, that are unaccounted for. On those 44 attempts (which represents almost 60% of his pass attempts), it would subsequently stand to reason he was rushed by only 3 men (or less). Admittedly, I have no idea what types of defenses Franks faced, but I find it very difficult to believe that Charleston Southern, Kentucky and Colorado State game-planned Florida with the idea they could compete with primarily 3 men (or less) rushing the passer for the majority of the time.

There's likely some validity that Franks & Florida have handled the blitz pretty well, but I'm certainly not relying or putting much credence in PFF's figures to support the point.
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99% sure what PFF is saying is that when he’s pressured by a 4 man front (pressured being the key word) he struggles more than when blitzed. So those unaccounted for pas attempts would be attempts where he was not pressured.


Which, to me, seems like an obvious thing. If 4 men are affecting the QB, there are 6-7 men in coverage AND the QB is under duress. During a blitz, there are fewer guys in coverage, more soft spots to be found, and the QB may not necessarily be under duress.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
99% sure what PFF is saying is that when he’s pressured by a 4 man front (pressured being the key word) he struggles more than when blitzed. So those unaccounted for pas attempts would be attempts where he was not pressured.


Which, to me, seems like an obvious thing. If 4 men are affecting the QB, there are 6-7 men in coverage AND the QB is under duress. During a blitz, there are fewer guys in coverage, more soft spots to be found, and the QB may not necessarily be under duress.
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Exactly that's a dumbass stat.

More defenders in the secondary makes it tougher when pressured. Duh
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
99% sure what PFF is saying is that when he’s pressured by a 4 man front (pressured being the key word) he struggles more than when blitzed. So those unaccounted for pas attempts would be attempts where he was not pressured.


Which, to me, seems like an obvious thing. If 4 men are affecting the QB, there are 6-7 men in coverage AND the QB is under duress. During a blitz, there are fewer guys in coverage, more soft spots to be found, and the QB may not necessarily be under duress.
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You're probably right. Darth. But it's a really stupid stat.

On a side note, if 4 men are consistently affecting the QB and putting him under duress, then statiscally speaking me, my wife and my parents will have a good chance of being SEC defensive backs of the week.
 
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Big Gucci Sosa said:
Was Rob feeding the board bad info on purpose or was he just getting bad info?
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He was being honest. Saying most people were saying Clemson but he didn't really know why because from all accounts James hadn't told anyone. It was all guessing. And Vol coaches were confident they were in it. I think Rob knew that the Vol coaches thought he was going to be a Vol and had the story but in typical conservative VQ fashion he didn't go out on a limb like most reporters would have on other sites in case the kid was trolling and picked Clemson. So now he looks good and Clemson reporters look like jackasses.
 
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