Athlon Schedule Predictions

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#27
How many threads do we need for crying over not getting respect after coming of the worst season in program history that resulted in the firing of Butch, a botched coaching search that saw the termination of the AD and eventually the chancellor, the hiring of a first time AD, and the hiring of a first time HC?

Especially, quit complaining about Florida. Yeah they fired their coach mid-season, but he didn't destroy their S&C program, nor did he have a track record of under-developing talent. Not to mention that their coaching search netted them their primary candidate. Regarless of last year's record, UT and Florida are in two very different places.

We'll get any respect due to us this season, by earning it on the field.
 
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fatal1 said:
correct me if im wrong but isn't most of practice closed to these so called prognosticators like all the rest of the media so how in the hell could they know any more than the rest?
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People inside the program may be talking thus they have inside info
 
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gunner said:
I don’t think so, Auburn, LSU, Texas A&M and Florida better classes (when averaged together) than UT.

This is from 2017, I haven’t seen one yet for 2018, but Florida had a higher rated class than UT last season.

Five-year college football recruiting averages should forecast next season
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If you strip out 2013 (which was 6 classes ago), Tennessee jumps to 10.5 and Florida falls to 13.

Realistically speaking if you looked at each team's individual players and rankings, we're probably 5th in the SEC and we're in the same relative company as Auburn (4th), A&M (6th), and Florida (7th). Bama, Georgia, and LSU are the only 3 teams a "level ahead of us" so to speak.

Of course, we've had poor coaching and player development for the past few years, so we don't know how much those rankings mean.
 
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volgrad500 said:
Here's my two cents, which is not even worth that. But as I see it, we've got two problems with any preseason predictions. The first is that we simply don't know what we have. On paper, we should be talented enough to win a lot of games. But we don't know how badly that ***** Butch has destroyed any talent that was there. And we don't have any idea what we have in Pruitt. he may be great, and he may be a complete bust. Being the top man is so different, you don't know until you've seen them do it. SECOND, I honestly (regretfully) believe that UGA, FL, and SCAR, have all finally gotten their programs on track. It just seems like they have turned the corner. I hope we have.
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That's about where I am. Just too many unknowns right now. Not enough info out there to assess this team's potential IMO. I hope we are shockingly good, but people are throwing up score predictions where we school WV and I have no idea what that notion is based on.
 
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BeardedVol said:
How many threads do we need for crying over not getting respect after coming of the worst season in program history that resulted in the firing of Butch, a botched coaching search that saw the termination of the AD and eventually the chancellor, the hiring of a first time AD, and the hiring of a first time HC?

Especially, quit complaining about Florida. Yeah they fired their coach mid-season, but he didn't destroy their S&C program, nor did he have a track record of under-developing talent. Not to mention that their coaching search netted them their primary candidate. Regarless of last year's record, UT and Florida are in two very different places.

We'll get any respect due to us this season, by earning it on the field.
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Are you serious? Mcelwain was a terrible at player development. The only reason he had minor success was because he inherited a elite defense thanks to Muschamp. Each year they regressed on that side of the ball while he was there. His offense was anemic and QB play was absolutely atrocious. I really hate hearing it when people say that FL is miles ahead of Tennessee because it’s simply not true. The only difference between us and them is they didn’t have a dumpster fire of a coaching search. Mullen is a good coach but you have to recruit in this league and I’d argue we got the better end of the deal as far as that goes and I would also point out that our staff is stellar
 
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AdmiralVFL98 said:
Joke...safe stupid picks across the board with one having us lose to Vandy...can’t wait to look back at all the predictions after this season. Maybe I’m wrong, and I certainly am biased, but with the talent on this team and the tenacity and dedication to a style of football that is a proven winner at the highest level in the SEC, I can’t see how we are less than 7 wins this year. I’m so excited to see what Pruitt puts on the field in 6 days!!!! Hope the media changes their tune this time next week.
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Can't wait to see some hard nose football..... With physical DB play finally.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
If you strip out 2013 (which was 6 classes ago), Tennessee jumps to 10.5 and Florida falls to 13.

Realistically speaking if you looked at each team's individual players and rankings, we're probably 5th in the SEC and we're in the same relative company as Auburn (4th), A&M (6th), and Florida (7th). Bama, Georgia, and LSU are the only 3 teams a "level ahead of us" so to speak.

Of course, we've had poor coaching and player development for the past few years, so we don't know how much those rankings mean.
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I get taking the 2013 classes out, but you have to add the 2018 class in to get the average for the last five years. Florida finished 14th and UT 22nd. Thus, UF is 11.6 and UT is 14.96 as a 5 year average.

The facts are the facts, Florida has a better average than past 5 seasons than UT but the good news is the difference isn’t that much, and it’s certainly no excuse UT to lose to them at home again.

If Clemson and Oklahoma can get to the playoff with their classes and excellent coaching, UT or UF could certainly do the same.

But, UT’s schedule will keep them from getting there and UF has a much better shot with the way their schedule sets up.

I hope UT pounds Florida into oblivion when they meet next month in Neyland Stadium!!
 
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If we start 2-6 (which is certainly possible), I give little hope to winning the last four straight to get to a bowl game.
 
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KeyVol14 said:
Are you serious? Mcelwain was a terrible at player development. The only reason he had minor success was because he inherited a elite defense thanks to Muschamp. Each year they regressed on that side of the ball while he was there. His offense was anemic and QB play was absolutely atrocious. I really hate hearing it when people say that FL is miles ahead of Tennessee because it’s simply not true. The only difference between us and them is they didn’t have a dumpster fire of a coaching search. Mullen is a good coach but you have to recruit in this league and I’d argue we got the better end of the deal as far as that goes and I would also point out that our staff is stellar
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Did McElwain hire the likes of John Jancek and Don Mahoney, Mike Debord, and Mike Canales? Did he promote guys like Walt Wells, and Larry Scott to positions that they weren't qualified for? Cause Butch's mostly terrible assistant hires and management are why development of highly recruited talent was atrocious.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Did McElwain hire the likes of John Jancek and Don Mahoney, Mike Debord, and Mike Canales? Did he promote guys like Walt Wells, and Larry Scott to positions that they weren't qualified for? Cause Butch's mostly terrible assistant hires and management are why development of highly recruited talent was atrocious.
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And how is this stating that FL is in better position in anyway?
 
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#42
Pruitt probably has 3 years to turn this ship around. If he loses too Vandy this year, he knocks a year off the grade period. No way should he lose to Vandy in his 12th game.
 
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KeyVol14 said:
And how is this stating that FL is in better position in anyway?
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Because McElwain didn't hire morons who didn't know what to do with the talent they had on campus? Florida has a leg up in both recruited talent, and development, at nearly every position.
 
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KeyVol14 said:
4-8 and 4-7...huge difference there.
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Anyone who has seen my posts knows that I think you can’t begin to claim to be certain about anything regarding these two teams.

Having said that, if you were a disinterested party you would gamble on one thing.

For whatever reason, regardless of any other factors you might consider when trying to evaluate one team vs another, it generally has been a pretty safe bet that Florida beats Tennessee.
 
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99gator said:
Anyone who has seen my posts knows that I think you can’t begin to claim to be certain about anything regarding these two teams.

Having said that, if you were a disinterested party you would gamble on one thing.

For whatever reason, regardless of any other factors you might consider when trying to evaluate one team vs another, it generally has been a pretty safe bet that Florida beats Tennessee.
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That I can agree with but outside that game; I’m assuming your a gator fan, can you tell me why the media is so high on you guys after such a bad season like ours? I don’t mean to come off arrogant just genuinely curious
 
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KeyVol14 said:
That I can agree with but outside that game; I’m assuming your a gator fan, can you tell me why the media is so high on you guys after such a bad season like ours? I don’t mean to come off arrogant just genuinely curious
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I don’t know how high anyone is. I didn’t see this publication’s prediction, so I can’t tell you about this one specifically.

I have not seen them picked higher than 2nd in the east and what would that mean? Would it mean they were good?

I’m not sure they will face a ranked conference opponent outside of Georgia. If they went 6-2 or 5-3 in the league, would it mean anything? They won the division twice and I didn’t think they were any good those years.

So, you can think a team will win games and not necessarily be “high on them”. If they beat Tennessee, Missouri, Kentucky, Vandy, and SC, what would it prove?

The other thing is that there may be a higher level of respect for Mullen in media circles than exists elsewhere, particularly this board
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Last year the team had already checked out completely by the Missouri game
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I was at the Corvette show in Carlisle PA over the weekend, and there was a UT tent up. I went and talked to them. The one guy works for Coke in Knoxville and gets to fly with the team to 1 away game. He said when he got on the plane for the game in Missouri, it was like a funeral. None of the players were talking. He said they were all just quiet, most with their headphones in and he said you could feel the defeat all over the plane. So I would agree with your statement.
 
#49
#49
I really only read Athlon when I am wearing my vintage "Starter" brand jacket.
 
#50
#50
I'm really surprised that they have us unanimously beating Missouri. I expect us to be underdogs in that game.
 
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