Enemy of the People

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General Jack said:
Is he as rich as he says he is? Does he actually make the charitable contributions that he professes to? There is well-founded skepticism to that regard. What if he doesn't, how would you feel about his character and follow-through on promises.

What if he is $1 billion in debt to the russians... would that information be relevant to the public?
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Good lord you haven't ever had a job or paid taxes in your life have you? How old are you? 13? Your misunderstanding of finances is cringe worthy.
 
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THE ONLY REASON people want to see Trumps tax returns is so that they can, hopefully in their walnuts sized brains, point at it and laugh because he potentially isn't worth the billions he claims to be. That. Is. It.

The funny thing is though he still has more money and is more successful than them. Its a democrat low self esteem didnt get their participation trophy loser coping mechanism.

Its the typical got picked last for dodgeball loser kid mentality.
 
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To my earlier point:

Does a tax return disclose charitable contributions?

Does a tax return disclose ownership of business interests?

I'll wait while you google.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
THE ONLY REASON people want to see Trumps tax returns is so that they can, hopefully in their walnuts sized brains, point at it and laugh because he potentially isn't worth the billions he claims to be. That. Is. It.

The funny thing is though he still has more money and is more successful than them. Its a democrat low self esteem didnt get their participation trophy loser coping mechanism.

Its the typical got picked last for dodgeball loser kid mentality.
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The trump flows freely within you, wear your red hat with pride.

But I'm not a democrat. And unfortunately I'm quite a bit older than 14. And my personal tax return is quite a few pages. So let me help you out with something... there is quite a bit that can be gleaned from tax returns.

Does he actually make the charitable contributions that he professes to? He's a big talker, we can all agree upon that I'm sure. There is well-founded skepticism that trump often does not follow through with his promises of giving. What if he doesn't, how would you feel about his character and follow-through on promises? I know, you wouldn't care... but most outside of the 33% would care.

Who does he do business with? Are their interests in line with American ideals? Again, you probalby DGAF, but most outside of the 33% do.

Does he have significant debt to the russian parties... would that information be relevant to the public? I know, you'd rather be russian than democrat. Go watch Rocky IV.

Trump being worth less than he professes (highly likely btw) would only be the cherry on top.
 
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General Jack said:
The trump flows freely within you, wear your red hat with pride.

But I'm not a democrat. And unfortunately I'm quite a bit older than 14. And my personal tax return is quite a few pages. So let me help you out with something... there is quite a bit that can be gleaned from tax returns.

Does he actually make the charitable contributions that he professes to? He's a big talker, we can all agree upon that I'm sure. There is well-founded skepticism that trump often does not follow through with his promises of giving. What if he doesn't, how would you feel about his character and follow-through on promises? I know, you wouldn't care... but most outside of the 33% would care.

Who does he do business with? Are their interests in line with American ideals? Again, you probalby DGAF, but most outside of the 33% do.

Does he have significant debt to the russian parties... would that information be relevant to the public? I know, you'd rather be russian than democrat. Go watch Rocky IV.

Trump being worth less than he professes (highly likely btw) would only be the cherry on top.
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The thing I don’t care for is you and I both know that as soon as his charities are found out the liberal mob will pounce on those organizations for taking his money , like they did with Don Jr. and saint Jude , of all things . The Russian interest angle , don’t you think Brennan , Clapper , Comey and Fusion GPS hasaready worn the soles off their shoes on that road trying to find anything like that since he announced he was running in 2016? So the only real thing you could hope to find that we don’t know is his net worth . Meh
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
THE ONLY REASON people want to see Trumps tax returns is so that they can, hopefully in their walnuts sized brains, point at it and laugh because he potentially isn't worth the billions he claims to be. That. Is. It.
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That's not the only reason, I mean, we don't really need his tax returns to laugh at him. Pretty much the whole world laughs at his infantile behavior daily.
I would however like to see if he itemizes all his hooker hush money, that would certainly add a few pages to his return.
 
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TN Ribs said:
That's not the only reason, I mean, we don't really need his tax returns to laugh at him. Pretty much the whole world laughs at his infantile behavior daily.
I would however like to see if he itemizes all his hooker hush money, that would certainly add a few pages to his return.
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Wait didn’t you guys get a good look at some of his tax return when Rachel mad cow broke that HUGE story ... tic tic tic tic BOOM! 😂😂😂
 
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0nelilreb said:
Wait didn’t you guys get a good look at some of his tax return when Rachel mad cow broke that HUGE story ... tic tic tic tic BOOM! 😂😂😂
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I don't think she had the right returns, the return she showed was in US Dollars not Rubles.
 
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General Jack said:
The trump flows freely within you, wear your red hat with pride.

But I'm not a democrat. And unfortunately I'm quite a bit older than 14. And my personal tax return is quite a few pages. So let me help you out with something... there is quite a bit that can be gleaned from tax returns.

Does he actually make the charitable contributions that he professes to? He's a big talker, we can all agree upon that I'm sure. There is well-founded skepticism that trump often does not follow through with his promises of giving. What if he doesn't, how would you feel about his character and follow-through on promises? I know, you wouldn't care... but most outside of the 33% would care.

Who does he do business with? Are their interests in line with American ideals? Again, you probalby DGAF, but most outside of the 33% do.

Does he have significant debt to the russian parties... would that information be relevant to the public? I know, you'd rather be russian than democrat. Go watch Rocky IV.

Trump being worth less than he professes (highly likely btw) would only be the cherry on top.
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Is it a defense mechanism to always say you’re not a democrat evertime someone gets in your ass?
 
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General Jack said:
The simple truth to the birther issue is that prior presidents wouldn't acknowledge ridiculous conspiracy theories. It was beneath them and the office.

Prior presidents had decorum. Current presidents rant on twitter like spoiled insolent children.
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What does that have to do with anything and the only spoiled insolent children I see are the losers in the last election. If you don't think his birthplace was questionable then what is questionable about the man? He moved 15 times and his father was an immigrant. He finally presented it and the issue was over. Is he above questioning, you don't seem to have a problem with questions now? Funny how situations changes, we know who Trump slept with 15 years ago, you think Obama could have stood that kind of scrutiny by the press? Nobody could. The only difference in Obama and Trump is the press were propping up former and trying to take the latter. Enemy of the people as the title says.
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
What does that have to do with anything and the only spoiled insolent children I see are the losers in the last election. If you don't think his birthplace was questionable then what is questionable about the man? He moved 15 times and his father was an immigrant. He finally presented it and the issue was over. Is he above questioning, you don't seem to have a problem with questions now? Funny how situations changes, we know who Trump slept with 15 years ago, you think Obama could have stood that kind of scrutiny by the press? Nobody could. The only difference in Obama and Trump is the press were propping up former and trying to take the latter. Enemy of the people as the title says.
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The internet existed under Obama and W Bush you may recall. Difference is, those guys didn't speak and behave in such as way as to provide kindling and lighter fluid to the masses on a daily basis.

The press reports (and yes, provides opinions on) what transpires. If trump would conduct himself in a more positive manner a tremendous amount of the criticism would dissipate. The press isn't an enemy of the people for reporting the idiocy that trump engages in on a daily basis. The enemy of the people resides at 1600 Pennsylvania.

Trump sets an incredibly bad example for conduct. He is a leader and is enabling and normalizing corrosive behaviors... while he should be doing the exact opposite. Leaders unite, inspire and achieve the common good. We should expect better from presidents than the unruly mob because of the power that presidents wield.
 
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General Jack said:
The internet existed under Obama and W Bush you may recall. Difference is, those guys didn't speak and behave in such as way as to provide kindling and lighter fluid to the masses on a daily basis.

The press reports (and yes, provides opinions on) what transpires. If trump would conduct himself in a more positive manner a tremendous amount of the criticism would dissipate. The press isn't an enemy of the people for reporting the idiocy that trump engages in on a daily basis. The enemy of the people resides at 1600 Pennsylvania.

Trump sets an incredibly bad example for conduct. He is a leader and is enabling and normalizing corrosive behaviors... while he should be doing the exact opposite. Leaders unite, inspire and achieve the common good. We should expect better from presidents than the unruly mob because of the power that presidents wield.
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I’m curious .. what was the last president and or administration that you feel exemplified those traits ?
 
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0nelilreb said:
I’m curious .. what was the last president and or administration that you feel exemplified those traits ?
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What traits? The inverse of how I described trump?

There's never been a president like trump, and that's not a compliment.

"Acting presidential" used to be a compliment for dignity, grace, empathy, and thoughtful, measured messaging.
 
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General Jack said:
The trump flows freely within you, wear your red hat with pride.

But I'm not a democrat. And unfortunately I'm quite a bit older than 14. And my personal tax return is quite a few pages. So let me help you out with something... there is quite a bit that can be gleaned from tax returns.

Does he actually make the charitable contributions that he professes to? He's a big talker, we can all agree upon that I'm sure. There is well-founded skepticism that trump often does not follow through with his promises of giving. What if he doesn't, how would you feel about his character and follow-through on promises? I know, you wouldn't care... but most outside of the 33% would care.

Who does he do business with? Are their interests in line with American ideals? Again, you probalby DGAF, but most outside of the 33% do.

Does he have significant debt to the russian parties... would that information be relevant to the public? I know, you'd rather be russian than democrat. Go watch Rocky IV.

Trump being worth less than he professes (highly likely btw) would only be the cherry on top.
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Clearly you’ve never seen much beyond the 1040EZ you file as soon as your W-2 shows up. Nowhere in a tax return is debt listed. Nor who owns the companies you do business with. Someone like Trump could have dealings with hundreds of partnerships or LLC’s, in other words private parties you’d have no ability to trace. If he owed hundreds of millions to Russia do you really think some lackey at the IRS wouldn’t have leaked that by now? Also someone making the money Trump has would be completely phased out of itemized deductions. In other words there would be no reason to fill that out. And there’s no rule you have to list donations anyways.

And let us not forget he filed a voluminous financial disclosure that would tell you about anything you’d want to know.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
Clearly you’ve never seen much beyond the 1040EZ you file as soon as your W-2 shows up. Nowhere in a tax return is debt listed. Nor who owns the companies you do business with. Someone like Trump could have dealings with hundreds of partnerships or LLC’s, in other words private parties you’d have no ability to trace. If he owed hundreds of millions to Russia do you really think some lackey at the IRS wouldn’t have leaked that by now? Also someone making the money Trump has would be completely phased out of itemized deductions. In other words there would be no reason to fill that out. And there’s no rule you have to list donations anyways.

And let us not forget he filed a voluminous financial disclosure that would tell you about anything you’d want to know.
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Oh you guys are so funny. You mean his 1040 wouldn't just say "debt to russia?" Thanks for the lesson!

Ever heard of a K-1? Schedule B, D or E? You may not have in your 1040EZ, but you see, smart people can ID the companies, follow the paper and follow the money.

People that have something to hide.... well, they hide things.
 
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General Jack said:
Oh you guys are so funny. You mean his 1040 wouldn't just say "debt to russia?" Thanks for the lesson!

Ever heard of a K-1? Schedule B, D or E? You may not have in your 1040EZ, but you see, smart people can ID the companies, follow the paper and follow the money.

People that have something to hide.... well, they hide things.
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Lol ok man. Where does it say on Sch E who owns the partnership you’re reporting? Where does the copy of your K-1 go in the return?
 
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To those wanting to see Trumps tax returns, serious question, what do you think you are going to see? Do you think you are going to see a legit tax return? You going to see how much money he has in off shore accounts and shell companies? Do you really think you are going to see his true wealth?

I mean if you think you are going to see itemized lists of his wealth then you obviously know very little about wealthy people. Wealthy people report what they want people to see. How do you think they stay wealthy? You think Bill Gates and Warren Buffets tax returns are legit? I mean lol. You people harping on about tax returns cannot be this dumb.
 
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General Jack said:
The internet existed under Obama and W Bush you may recall. Difference is, those guys didn't speak and behave in such as way as to provide kindling and lighter fluid to the masses on a daily basis.

The press reports (and yes, provides opinions on) what transpires. If trump would conduct himself in a more positive manner a tremendous amount of the criticism would dissipate. The press isn't an enemy of the people for reporting the idiocy that trump engages in on a daily basis. The enemy of the people resides at 1600 Pennsylvania.

Trump sets an incredibly bad example for conduct. He is a leader and is enabling and normalizing corrosive behaviors... while he should be doing the exact opposite. Leaders unite, inspire and achieve the common good. We should expect better from presidents than the unruly mob because of the power that presidents wield.
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While that looks good on paper you know the press is under orders to get dirt on the president and only report negative stories. No positive stories. Of course he is viewed as you noted above, anybody in this job would be under these circumstances. Yes, his mouth hurts him a lot of the time but personally I can't imagine a world where Hillary, Nancy and Maxine are in charge. The press has an agenda, write a positive story about Trump and get fired or demoted. Is this freedom of the press being used for the people? Sorry, the press should not be under orders in this way. They have become their own enemy and the enemy of the people they should be protecting.
 
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SLICKYINC said:
The left: "If we don't pass net neutrality, then the big tech companies might censor us!

Also the left: "Thank God these big tech companies censored Alex Jones. They shouldn't just stop there!
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Exactly, the left is totalitarian. The left is marxist. The left is anything but American.
 
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happy-go_vol said:
Exactly, the left is totalitarian. The left is marxist. The left is anything but American.
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The left has gone too far left it will be interesting to see if they stay there in fairytale land or come back closer to center .
 
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