Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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jakez4ut said:
how is LSU ranked?
no USCe and no FL.

meh. don't really care one way or the other i guess.
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LSU has a loaded roster especially on defense. They were playing well to end the year too. That Notre dame team should’ve been in the playoff. Two top 10 picks on the OL.
 
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jakez4ut said:
yep. and taking that in to consideration, if there was every any inkling with the offensive coaches that JG could start here this year, then the biggest thing they could accomplish by bringing KC in here is to provide competition and depth at QB short term, and starting next year, you'll have probably a full on qb competition with JG, shrout and any incoming freshmen. and i won't be shocked if they go grad transfer route next year too, no matter what. jmo.
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If anything else having a veteran qb from a great program that has received top tier coaching should be an example to JG what it looks like to work in practice, film room, etc. it’s up to JG to do that and from what I’m hearing he’s still struggling with adversity and the leadership qualities you want in a QB.
 
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Sleegro said:
Thought some of these stats were interesting regarding downfield passing from our OC's previous stint. Apparently these come from an ESPN internal employee database so I couldn't find full lists or previous years, but in comparison to the big names in the draft last year it's still interesting.









So Darnold had the most attempts that traveled 20+ yards in the air downfield by a fairly significant amount. Middle of the pack in screen passes. Which led to middle of the pack for the drafted guys but above FBS average in Air Yards per Attempt. I have no doubt we will want to be a power running team. And I believe we will utilize the screen a lot as well. But this is one of the reasons I believe we will take a lot more shots downfield than people expect. I get the "oh it's the first year so we gotta not lose it" stuff. And my prediction may be way off. But that's my opinion. And one reason I think JG will win the job. We'll find out soon enough.
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HankHill said:
If anything else having a veteran qb from a great program that has received top tier coaching should be an example to JG what it looks like to work in practice, film room, etc. it’s up to JG to do that and from what I’m hearing he’s still struggling with adversity and the leadership qualities you want in a QB.
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on the first part, agree 100%.

i'll defer on the 2nd. there's so much stuff being talked about by different folks in the media everyone claiming to have sources (nothing against you, and not calling you part of the media, but i'm not not calling you part of the media either...lol ) and yet a lot of differing opinions coming from a lot of different diredtions on that topic.

hard for the fan, in general, to really decipher what is and what isn't BS. the JG fans will gravitate to the folks talking up JG, the KC fans will gravitate to those talking him up.

i've not seen/heard anything that's convinced me one way or the other tbh.....
 
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HankHill said:
If anything it would be the opposite. They would want the talented sophmore to grow up, win the job, and play well. Even if KC wins the job, plays like a nfl qb, and we go 9-3... we’re still back to square one next year.
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My opinion of what they “want” is based on the fact that I believe, of the two QB’s in the competition, that they feel most comfortable with Chryst - and I believe that to be the case. So if you grant me the assumption these two guys are what they are to a certain extent - that they would prefer for Chryst to perform better and win the job.

I don’t believe they are ~comfortable~ with JG. Even if he has the most talent, they’re not sure he gives them the best chance to win in the offense they’re trying to create this season. Of course they’re not going to be upset if JG turns into Peyton Manning and runs away with the job - but that hasn’t happened and probably isn’t going to happen.

So of the two available options: a talented guy who may not totally fit the system and has issues with turnovers and internal timing

and: the guy who may not have the most talent but fits the ideal system a bit better and can more effectively operate within the offense and its schemes

I absolutely believe that if all things are equal (they’re not right now but it’s close) that they will give the benefit of the doubt to Chryst.

Just my opinion of course. A little bit of what I’ve heard and a little bit of a gut feeling based on the fact that - according to every report we’re getting - that JG is way ahead but for some reason is not getting more snaps than the rest of the QB’s. They want Chryst to overtake him. It doesn’t mean they’ll play the “worse” QB just for fit. But I think it signals how they “want” things to occur.
 
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jakez4ut said:
yep. and taking that in to consideration, if there was every any inkling with the offensive coaches that JG could start here this year, then the biggest thing they could accomplish by bringing KC in here is to provide competition and depth at QB short term, and starting next year, you'll have probably a full on qb competition with JG, shrout and any incoming freshmen. and i won't be shocked if they go grad transfer route next year too, no matter what. jmo.
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Absolutely. If this year has shown anything, it's that next year is wide open and they will look at all options.
 
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jakez4ut said:
ha...on that last part. i think he wants a qb that can stress a defense. figures a HS qb's interecepiton issue may just be because he's in HS and doens't understand all the how/why things happen. w/the right coaching, a kid like that, can be a weapon if used correctly aginst a defense.

i think as a defensive coordinator, he knows what he doesn't like to see. he doesn't like big powerful offensive lines. he doesn't like big, fast, powerful backs that are hard to tackle, he hates TE's that are a match up nightmare against most LB's and he probably hates big rangy WR's with huge catch radiuses.

and i'm sure he hates QB's that can place the ball down field and make the defense chase.

so offensively, pruitt probably just thinks "i hate this....." and then goes and finds it.

just a theory.
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Not sure if that's how Pruitt handles it but if he doesn't, you're hired.
 
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jakez4ut said:
yep. and 2020 will just rinse and repeat. not knowing what the future holds for the QB position, it may be 2020 or later before we have a multi year starter at QB....
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The way grad transfers are going now where players will have 2 years to play is honestly a game changer for QBs.
 
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jakez4ut said:
yep. and 2020 will just rinse and repeat. not knowing what the future holds for the QB position, it may be 2020 or later before we have a multi year starter at QB....
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We're on target to sign Bailey in '20 and if we can sign a second QB in '19, that adds an option. We'll see what Shrout and Maurer bring next year. Will be surprising if McBride doesn't transfer.
 
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HankHill said:
The way grad transfers are going now where players will have 2 years to play is honestly a game changer for QBs.
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yeah it is. i do think the RS rule put in place, may slow some of it down, but the reality is, if you're getting QB's like that to sign, you can almost bet 1 or 2 just aren't going to finish at your school.
 
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LA Vol said:
We're on target to sign Bailey in '20 and if we can sign a second QB in '19, that adds an option. We'll see what Shrout and Maurer bring next year. Will be surprising if McBride doesn't transfer.
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there's a lot of different directions this could go. if KC does get the nod this year and winds up being the guy for 2018, i feell confident, just like many here do, that JG is gone. so no matter what happens this season, one of the guys in the 2 deep isn't going to be hear in 2019.

after that, it starts to get real hazy not knowing how many qb's we'll get this year, who they will be aside from Mauer. and projecting out to the 2020 class is a fool's errand at this point...lol so yeah, to say the qb position is "up in the air" is probably putting it mildly.
 
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chargervol said:
Not sure if that's how Pruitt handles it but if he doesn't, you're hired.
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and i promise i'll do the job a whole lot cheaper than he does. and you can definitely fire me after the first year. i just need a 3 year deal about a million per, and a buy out.

so yeah, fire me. please.
 
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