Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[jakez4ut]

What I've gathered from the last couple of days:

Yeah, he's a jerk, but if Tiger isn't our starting QB for WVU, it's all over.

 

[Billy Antrim]

Justin Thomas talked about it on camera, and his reaction when asked, as well as what he did on the course, made it seem like he was affected.

LOL, JT is not intimidated by anyone. He and Spieth grew up idolizing Woods, like you apparently did, but that doesn't mean that they don't try and beat his brains out on the golf course.

What I saw yesterday was that JT was trying to keep up with Koepka and Scott, not Woods, and lost his putting stroke at the wrong time. It happens to all of us. It's what makes golf such an exhilarating and frustrating game at times.

 

[LA Vol]

The QB's won't be asked to do much in this offense. This will be a ground controlled offense with an occasional over the top bomb to keep the defense honest. The QB that makes the fewest mistakes will win the job.

Helton's comments have been consistent since spring. He's looking for a game manager who'll take care of the football and move the ball down the field. He wants to be aggressive running the ball and mix it up with explosive plays. Steady and unemotional, a good decisionmaker who doesn't turn the ball over-- that's the job description.

 

[jakez4ut]

LOL, JT is not intimidated by anyone. He and Spieth grew up idolizing Woods, like you apparently did, but that doesn't mean that they don't try and beat his brains out on the golf course.

What I saw yesterday was that JT was trying to keep up with Koepka and Scott, not Woods, and lost his putting stroke at the wrong time. It happens to all of us. It's what makes golf such an exhilarating and frustrating game at times.

yeah, they all know which holes are birdie holes, and they know BK could get there. and that 17 could be an eagle opp for BK. kinda puts the pressure on when you're w/in a stroke or two, but a couple holes ahead. makes you do things you maybe wouldn't otherwise.....probably at least part of the reason you saw some guys get squirly off the tee late in the round.

 

[Sleegro]

The QB's won't be asked to do much in this offense. This will be a ground controlled offense with an occasional over the top bomb to keep the defense honest. The QB that makes the fewest mistakes will win the job.

That would be far more conservative than any of the assistants Pruitt hired are used to running. Based on the money spent on guys with a background of high powered aggressive offense I doubt we will be as conservative as most are thinking.

 

[jason3713]

Ha, okay guy. I watch a lot of golf and not just Tiger. The rest of yer statement is laughable. Makes it seem like you don't actually know what you are talking about. This isn't golden tee. Show me another golfer in history who has missed the fairway on the front nine of the final round of a major, or any other PGA tournament, and shot a 64. There are very few examples of scramble golf that even come close to that. And it was the final round of a major. If you don't like Tiger that's fine. But don't act like that wasn't amazing. Hitting the fairway isn't important anymore? hahahahahahahahaha. That's worse than a Hank bball take.

Actually if you look at statistics, I know last year at least. There wasn’t anyone in the top 10 world rankings that was in the top 20 in fairways hit.

It’s becoming a bombers world. They are better at hitting wedges from the rough than 5 irons from the fairways.

 

[drvenner]

If we do start 2-6, ouch. The games against WVU and UF are both projected as very close. I think we at least split and could win both with a couple of breaks that we make for ourselves.

 

[VolGee4]

LOL, JT is not intimidated by anyone. He and Spieth grew up idolizing Woods, like you apparently did, but that doesn't mean that they don't try and beat his brains out on the golf course.

What I saw yesterday was that JT was trying to keep up with Koepka and Scott, not Woods, and lost his putting stroke at the wrong time. It happens to all of us. It's what makes golf such an exhilarating and frustrating game at times.

Some of you guys are turning "positive," "back to championship level play," "unbelievable final round at a major" commentary into it being personal. Not sure that OG "idolizes" Tiger Woods. He has been commenting about how he has finally gotten back to high level golf, and if he continues, he will win again. It's fun to watch and apparently many others thought so as well, based on the numbers.

I am going to say it again- many questioned if Tiger could ever be in that position yesterday.

 

[drvenner]

That is KC

It could be JG. The idea that KC is automatically better in our gamplans is short-sighted and not giving our staff any credit for development.

 

[jakez4ut]

They are better at hitting wedges from the rough than 5 irons from the fairways.

they're pretty good at both. and really, they hit 5 iron 200 yards, so there's not a ton of those being hit except on the long par 3's and the 530ish yard par 5's. they're hitting 7 iron in from 180....lol. i hit a 3 wood or hybrid and pray.

 

[Ron Swanson]

One guy who we haven't talked about a ton — mainly because we don't see much of anything from the RBs at practice — who had a strong scrimmage Sunday was grad transfer tailback Madre London. He got some run with the 1s. Still sounds like Jordan (who had a couple explosive plays including a long TD) and Chandler will get the bulk of carries, but London has at least positioned himself for a few looks (maybe short-yardage or red zone).

-Simonton

 

[Glitch]

How about we cheer on whoever plays snaps at QB for UT?

Except for Chief. He can cheer for whoever takes the snaps at OSU and UGA.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

It can't possibly be worse. You've basically got the team drinking Jonestown Kool-Aid at the fifty yard line at halftime during the WV game.

We are gonna be just fine this year, it regardless of who is taking the snaps.

I hope so, but I think your defintion of "just fine" and mine are probably a lot different...lol.

 

[LA Vol]

That would be far more conservative than any of the assistants Pruitt hired are used to running. Based on the money spent on guys with a background of high powered aggressive offense I doubt we will be as conservative as most are thinking.

What they've said is more conservative than you'd think. But they're tailoring the offense to the personnel, and I'm not sure they trust any of the QBs to throw it downfield right now. And the receivers have been inconsistent. Sounds like we could start the season conservatively, then open it up as the QB(s) and receivers become more reliable and earn their trust.

 

[JAllen18]

Helton's comments have been consistent since spring. He's looking for a game manager who'll take care of the football and move the ball down the field. He wants to be aggressive running the ball and mix it up with explosive plays. Steady and unemotional, a good decisionmaker who doesn't turn the ball over-- that's the job description.

Will be exactly like USC's offense IMO. Playaction style passes with slants, crossing routes, and throws to the flat to keep the defense honest.

 

[Billy Antrim]

Some of you guys are turning "positive," "back to championship level play," "unbelievable final round at a major" commentary into it being personal. Not sure that OG "idolizes" Tiger Woods. He has been commenting about how he has finally gotten back to high level golf, and if he continues, he will win again. It's fun to watch and apparently many others thought so as well, based on the numbers.

I am going to say it again- many questioned if Tiger could ever be in that position yesterday.

Go back and read OG's earlier comments. If they're not hero worship, I don't know what is. We can all agree that Tiger used to dominate the game 10 to 20 years ago, but that he is only one of the top 10 to 15 golfers today.

FTR, I have never questioned whether Woods could return to championship form. It's an amazing accomplishment.

 

[Sleegro]

Will be exactly like USC's offense IMO. Playaction style passes with slants, crossing routes, and throws to the flat to keep the defense honest.

I wouldn't call USC's offense conservative. Darnold wasn't taken top 3 for being conservative.

 

[buckfama]

Fwiw (and it ain't much), it sounds like Pruitt and Helton know that this season hinges on who makes the least amount of mistakes at QB. If we don't have the ability to be explosive on offense, especially in the passing game, then you can't have turnovers and make mistakes, ie holding the ball too long or taking sacks. If JG can't get past that for whatever reason, regardless of arm talent, then it's gonna be Chryst that starts.

Playing ball control football has to be mistake free as possible. Dink an dunk, run the ball, and a play action down the field to keep the D honest every now and then.

It's not about who has the most talented arm, it's about who processes correctly what's going on during the play and makes the right decision.

 

[chargervol]

Siap, AJ Johnson to the Broncos

 

[Sleegro]

What they've said is more conservative than you'd think. But they're tailoring the offense to the personnel, and I'm not sure they trust any of the QBs to throw it downfield right now. And the receivers have been inconsistent. Sounds like we could start the season conservatively, then open it up as the QB(s) and receivers become more reliable and earn their trust.

What they've said is exactly what I would expect them to say. Personally I don't think that's in their nature. Maybe yer right about easing into the season, but nobody on the offensive staff has a history of conservative offensive schemes.

 

[jakez4ut]

It's not about who has the most talented arm, it's about who processes correctly what's going on during the play and makes the right decision.

agreed. and i think most know that. the hope is the O line, RB's and WR's allow whichever QB it is to do that......and have big play ability.

 

[justwatch123]

At this point I think everything coming out of the coaches mouth about the QB competition is just that coach speak.

Darnold turned the ball over ALOT last year. We need a QB who can make plays PERIOD. Game managers only work when you have a team full of studs across the board.

Whoever is the QB will have to make plays PERIOD no question about it. No coach wants a QB that turns it over. We have seen both QBs turn the ball over when they played. JG actually turned it over less. But I don’t care who the QB is I wanna win GBO

 

[buckfama]

agreed. and i think most know that. the hope is the O line, RB's and WR's allow whichever QB it is to do that......and have big play ability.

That's why I don't get this blind loyalty to a certain player. Play whoever gives us the best chance to win. Period.

 

[Sleegro]

Fwiw (and it ain't much), it sounds like Pruitt and Helton know that this season hinges on who makes the least amount of mistakes at QB. If we don't have the ability to be explosive on offense, especially in the passing game, then you can't have turnovers and make mistakes, ie holding the ball too long or taking sacks. If JG can't get past that for whatever reason, regardless of arm talent, then it's gonna be Chryst that starts.

Playing ball control football has to be mistake free as possible. Dink an dunk, run the ball, and a play action down the field to keep the D honest every now and then.

It's not about who has the most talented arm, it's about who processes correctly what's going on during the play and makes the right decision.

Everyone always says limit mistakes like jg is the only one who makes them. Skipping passes to wide open receivers is a mistake. Not being able to capitalize on a deep ball is a mistake. A lot of people act like chryst plays mistake free when he doesn't. Otherwise he'd still be at Stanford.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I never should have used the term "full of quitters" It was dumb usage, and it has caused me much grief from the literal crowd.