Kiffin still holding on

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VFL-82-JP said:
There's a mental condition, I forget what it's called, where the person believes himself to be the only real person in the universe. Everyone else is an "extra," not of equal importance or value, at the extreme not even real.

Folks who suffer from this condition find it impossible to see from any perspective but their own. They simply do not have the ability to consider another person's perspective.

I think Kiffin may have that condition. It would make a lot of sense with things he has said and done over the years.
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Narcissism. Kiffin is a classic case study
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
There's a mental condition, I forget what it's called, where the person believes himself to be the only real person in the universe. Everyone else is an "extra," not of equal importance or value, at the extreme not even real.

Folks who suffer from this condition find it impossible to see from any perspective but their own. They simply do not have the ability to consider another person's perspective.

I think Kiffin may have that condition. It would make a lot of sense with things he has said and done over the years.
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Us dumb asses call it tunnel vision!!!
 
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If I was Kiffin I would stay right here in Boca Raton. He has it made. He gets paid good money, he lives on the ocean and goes fishing all the time and all he has to do is win 6- 8 games a year and he can retire and has no pressure like the SEC where it's win 8+ a year or get fired. Boca Raton is very safe when his kids are in town staying with him and Boca is loaded with very wealthy residents so there are other perks too after he meets and hooks ups with some of the residents in the area.
 
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Matt2496 said:
This mentality is toxic. Why hold a grudge for this long? He made a stupid mistake and has paid dearly for it. Let's forgive and forget.

I'm sure none of you all have ever made a bad decision in your life.
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I don't think it's toxic. In fact, I don't think about it at all on my own. It's not like I'm sitting around thinking about how much I hate Kiffin. The only time I ever think about him is when he does one of his endless interviews where he keeps bringing it up. And if in one of those interviews he talks about how he doesn't understand why, I'm more than glad to remind him.
 
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VolForLife83 said:
I think it might be the fact that you practically spit in our face, set us back into what we are now and used us like we weren't nothing to you. Like football ain't nothing down here



https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/t...ans-were-mad-at-him-when-he-left-for-usc/amp/
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Says a lot about him...and his memory. Bottom line, it wasn’t THAT he left; it was HOW he left. Totally unethical, that’s Kiffy Boy.

And while he was “escaping through the streets” with “a police escort”, wasn’t his wife and kids still at the house? Read that somewhere, that they left later....if true, well that says even more about him.
 
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LouderVol said:
For me it was always the how of the matter and not the what. Yeah he left us at a bad time. But it was the middle of the night thing, wasn't going to have a press conference or tell his players, until he got caught. Calling up recruits/early enrollees telling them to transfer. I was on campus and knew some players thru classes and him not wanting to talk to them upset them all. understandably imo. thats the stuff that left a bad taste in my mouth.

of course half the board still considers him to be the Offensive minded version of Neyland.
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Right, it was a ton of things. Just dirty and disrespectful altogether
 
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It is my hope to one day be in front of Tha Kiff to ask...."How'd that DREAM JOB work out for ya, Coach?"

Tis the biotch in me ... can't help myself. :D

GBO!!!
 
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CeJayVols said:
If I was Kiffin I would stay right here in Boca Raton. He has it made. He gets paid good money, he lives on the ocean and goes fishing all the time and all he has to do is win 6- 8 games a year and he can retire and has no pressure like the SEC where it's win 8+ a year or get fired. Boca Raton is very safe when his kids are in town staying with him and Boca is loaded with very wealthy residents so there are other perks too after he meets and hooks ups with some of the residents in the area.
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You say this like a hard charging 40 something coach is looking for a retirement job. He wants to win rings, not sit and get old. Besides Joey freshwater will get figured out eventually and he will need a new hunting ground.
 
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BloomuVol said:
If UT offer to pay you a million a year to hangout and watch practices and games, would you stay at your current job? Not likely, like it or not USC was his dream job and the idiot AD failed to push a serviceable buyout figure. Anybody would take their dream job.
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Yes, but you can't have it both ways. You can't take what you consider a better job - screwing everyone you left behind - and expect them to understand and be happy for you. If you are an average Joe changing jobs that may work, but if you are the head coach of a team with millions of fans you are an idiot if you don't expect them to come unhinged. Kiffin is a self-serving punk.
 
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BloomuVol said:
If UT offer to pay you a million a year to hangout and watch practices and games, would you stay at your current job? Not likely, like it or not USC was his dream job and the idiot AD failed to push a serviceable buyout figure. Anybody would take their dream job.
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I'm not mad at him for leaving. It's the way he went about it
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
At this point, Kiffin brings up the night of his departure more than Tennessee fans do... I think most of us have long since forgotten it. Nobody blames him for the current state of the program, anyway.

I also think he embellished that "riot" just a bit. Yeah, somebody burned a mattress but it was hardly Watts after the Rodney King verdict.
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this is just funny. Completely disregarding any and all truth to try and make Tennessee look better. it was chaos in Knoxville, and this board is living proof of how much we as fans refuse to let it die.
 
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Volador said:
I have always been a supporter of Phil and appreciated his dedication to UT however, at the end of his tenure, it was time for him to be fahred. UT officials then hired a punk, and we got exactly just that. Plus, I am still surprised to this day that Kiffin and Saban worked together for as long as they did
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At the time, I thought they fired Fulmer one year too early
 
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volfanbill said:
this is just funny. Completely disregarding any and all truth to try and make Tennessee look better. it was chaos in Knoxville, and this board is living proof of how much we as fans refuse to let it die.
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This is just hyperbole... and the one who is bringing it up as of late is Kiffin. He brings up his one season here quite often in interviews and frequently mentions Tennessee in tweets. Who is the one refusing to let it die, again?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This is just hyperbole... and the one who is bringing it up as of late is Kiffin. He brings up his one season here quite often in interviews and frequently mentions Tennessee in tweets. Who is the one refusing to let it die, again?
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He continually gets asked about it because boards like this one live and die by his every sound bite. So he then mocks us on Twitter
 
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volfanbill said:
He continually gets asked about it because boards like this one live and die by his every sound bite. So he then mocks us on Twitter
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He brings Tennessee up without any prompt at all... I will admit that Volnation had a Kiffin hang up until he left Alabama but since then, there have been very few threads started about Kiffin. And Kiffin doesn't just discuss Tennessee in response to a question either. He talks about Tennessee a lot.

And the premise of your post is silly. This forum hangs on every sound bite concerning Tennessee football in general when it's the off season because there just isn't much to talk about.
 
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Volador said:
I have always been a supporter of Phil and appreciated his dedication to UT however, at the end of his tenure, it was time for him to be fahred. UT officials then hired a punk, and we got exactly just that. Plus, I am still surprised to this day that Kiffin and Saban worked together for as long as they did
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We fired this guy. A guy who won a national championship, who won 75% of his games, who played for Tennessee, who gave his life to our program. I don't know about you but I'd crawl through broken glass to be only one year removed from an SEC Championship game appearance, to have our program at even that level again. We're all Tennessee fans and I agree Lane's a POS, but respectfully, we got too big for our britches. A guy like Fulmer, a future hall of famer, had earned the right to leave on his own terms. He might not have won another national championship, but there is no way we would have been in the shape we are now in, having suffered repeated humiliations for 10 full years. I hope our cosmic debt is now paid.
 

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unfrozencvmanvol said:
We fired this guy. A guy who won a national championship, who won 75% of his games, who played for Tennessee, who gave his life to our program. I don't know about you but I'd crawl through broken glass to be only one year removed from an SEC Championship game appearance, to have our program at even that level again. We're all Tennessee fans and I agree Lane's a POS, but respectfully, we got too big for our britches. A guy like Fulmer, a future hall of famer, had earned the right to leave on his own terms. He might not have won another national championship, but there is no way we would have been in the shape we are now in, having suffered repeated humiliations for 10 full years. I hope our cosmic debt is now paid.
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we backed our way in to that championship game. and from all reports I heard, even from some players, Fulmer had checked out of coaching. his last couple classes looked like he relied on the recruiting websites to do his evaluations, and despite the #3 defense in the nation we went 5-7. Also remember reading that he was unwilling to ditch the Clawfense.

dude did wonders for UT, but he wasn't doing us any favors there at the end. Administration made it way worse than it should have been. Should have had a big name lined up if they were going to fire him mid season. People tend to gloss over the down years and only remember the 98s and 01s
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
We fired this guy. A guy who won a national championship, who won 75% of his games, who played for Tennessee, who gave his life to our program. I don't know about you but I'd crawl through broken glass to be only one year removed from an SEC Championship game appearance, to have our program at even that level again. We're all Tennessee fans and I agree Lane's a POS, but respectfully, we got too big for our britches. A guy like Fulmer, a future hall of famer, had earned the right to leave on his own terms. He might not have won another national championship, but there is no way we would have been in the shape we are now in, having suffered repeated humiliations for 10 full years. I hope our cosmic debt is now paid.
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FTR he is already in the HOF
 
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