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zeppelin128 said:
The natural tendency for forests is to burn. At a certain age for a given tract it has to happen to clear the undergrowth, place nutrients back in the soil, and clear the way for better growth of timber and foliage for wildlife. It also kills many pests and is the best way to combat invasive species.
The options are either let nature run its course (bad idea around populated areas), controlled low-fire burns (perfect unless there is a drought), or allow loggers to select-cut (takes care of the undergrowth that causes fire issues, but causes soil erosion issues and damage to standing timber if not done properly).
There is no one correct solution, everything has a negative. A balanced, thoughtful approach is needed. That typically involves all three that I posted above.
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Yeah, tell that to the chowder heads that oppose interference at all. Or the politicians that voted for the Wilderness Protection areas. Because they tend to be the first in line saying "someone needs to do SOMETHING!" when these fires break out in areas they helped "protect" before.
 
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Water is wet ( living by the ocean ) fire is hot ( living in a Forrest or under an active volcano ) stop spraying and cutting the sides of the highways and see how long it takes the vines and grass to take back over . Everybody knows this but still we act shocked when these things happen . If I could just get my grass to stop growing exactly the length that I want it I would never have to mow again .. 😉
 
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zeppelin128 said:
The natural tendency for forests is to burn. At a certain age for a given tract it has to happen to clear the undergrowth, place nutrients back in the soil, and clear the way for better growth of timber and foliage for wildlife. It also kills many pests and is the best way to combat invasive species.
The options are either let nature run its course (bad idea around populated areas), controlled low-fire burns (perfect unless there is a drought), or allow loggers to select-cut (takes care of the undergrowth that causes fire issues, but causes soil erosion issues and damage to standing timber if not done properly).
There is no one correct solution, everything has a negative. A balanced, thoughtful approach is needed. That typically involves all three that I posted above.
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Yes this is along the same lines I learned while out in Sequoia National Forest recently. (Big tree pic attached from Trail of 100 Giants)

Even by removing the human element forests burn when they become tinder boxes. Lightning strikes are a huge contributor. To manage this the US Forest Service will monitor the concerned areas and do controlled burns as required to eradicate invasive species and consume the available fuel. The sequoias don’t care. They’ve got burn scars from a time before we anglos walked that land.

The idiots trying to impede the US Forest Service need to shut the hell up and let them do their job. It’s going to burn. It might as well burn on our terms.

TX has tornados. CA has wildfires. Both will continue to happen with or without us being around.

(No that isn’t me in the pic it’s s buddy. But it shows how damn big these things are)
 

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Grand Vol said:
Yeah, tell that to the chowder heads that oppose interference at all. Or the politicians that voted for the Wilderness Protection areas. Because they tend to be the first in line saying "someone needs to do SOMETHING!" when these fires break out in areas they helped "protect" before.
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We've been trying for years, nobody listens.
You know why we don't have widespread forest fires here in the dirty South, aside from extreme drought? Because, surprisingly, they employ all the methods I described. Yay us. But since we are rednecks, nobody else pays us any attention.
 
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TennTom said:
Republican strategist Rick Wilson's book dropped at midnite. And now this. Raging 3AM tweetstorm coming.

West Hollywood City Council to vote on removing Trump's Walk of Fame star

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Yawn 😴😴😴

Waste of time and no precedent. But boy you guys really showed Trump!😂😂

Similar demands to remove the stars of disgraced celebrities Kevin Spacey and Bill Cosby were refused by the Chamber, which said that stars are never removed since the Walk is a historical landmark.


“Once a star has been added to the walk, it is considered a part of the historic fabric of the Hollywood Walk of Fame,” said former chamber president Leron Gubler. “Because of this, we have never removed a star from the walk.”
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NorthDallas40 said:
Yes this is along the same lines I learned while out in Sequoia National Forest recently. (Big tree pic attached from Trail of 100 Giants)

Even by removing the human element forests burn when they become tinder boxes. Lightning strikes are a huge contributor. To manage this the US Forest Service will monitor the concerned areas and do controlled burns as required to eradicate invasive species and consume the available fuel. The sequoias don’t care. They’ve got burn scars from a time before we anglos walked that land.

The idiots trying to impede the US Forest Service need to shut the hell up and let them do their job. It’s going to burn. It might as well burn on our terms.

TX has tornados. CA has wildfires. Both will continue to happen with or without us being around.

(No that isn’t me in the pic it’s s buddy. But it shows how damn big these things are)
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Life goal for me to go to the Pacific Northwest, West coast. Just for the trees and hiking.
Classic case of every branch of government ignoring us forestry folks, the people that actually know what the hell is going on.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
We've been trying for years, nobody listens.
You know why we don't have widespread forest fires here in the dirty South, aside from extreme drought? Because, surprisingly, they employ all the methods I described. Yay us. But since we are rednecks, nobody else pays us any attention.
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Again, the overall point that Trump made was correct. Perhaps not in this specific instance as Cali's been under a drought for like three centuries...maybe not that long, but a while, but regardless, it's kind of like a season for them. Oklahoma has tornado season, Florida has hurricane season, California has wildfire season.
 
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TennTom said:
Got to love the evangelicals. The hypocrisy is staggering. Read: Mike Pence calling for the impeachment of Bill Clinton over his moral failings. Lulz.

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Biggest hypocrites in the country. I would respect them more if they would just own up to their racist, homophobic, theocratic, Neo-Nazi ways. But they want to appear kind and reasonable before they beat you to death in an alley.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Again, the overall point that Trump made was correct. Perhaps not in this specific instance as Cali's been under a drought for like three centuries...maybe not that long, but a while, but regardless, it's kind of like a season for them. Oklahoma has tornado season, Florida has hurricane season, California has wildfire season.
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I agree with you on this, just offering insight from my profession.
I didn't disagree with Trump tweet. He could have worded it better, but I didn't take issue with it. A broke clock is right twice a day, as my grandad would say.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Life goal for me to go to the Pacific Northwest, West coast. Just for the trees and hiking.
Classic case of every branch of government ignoring us forestry folks, the people that actually know what the hell is going on.
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Standing among those majestic Giants was both awe inspiring and humbling. I’m glad we took the day trip up there on our day off of testing. That picture doesn’t do them justice trust me
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Biggest hypocrites in the country. I would respect them more if they would just own up to their racist, homophobic, theocratic, Neo-Nazi ways. But they want to appear kind and reasonable before they beat you to death in an alley.
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My home bible study group doubles as a villainous gang of alley beaters.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Biggest hypocrites in the country. I would respect them more if they would just own up to their racist, homophobic, theocratic, Neo-Nazi ways. But they want to appear kind and reasonable before they beat you to death in an alley.
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One could argue that their views evolved or progressed. I mean that's what you guys believe in right?
 
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SLICKYINC said:
One could argue that their views evolved or progressed. I mean that's what you guys believe in right?
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That isn't what is going on here, and you know it. Politics as usual. Their guy is in power, so they will bend over backwards for him. Hypocrites.
 
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