Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[Big Gucci Sosa]

Why did you leave this part out from Hubbs?

Because the question was in reference to why he showed out at the AA game and can’t play DB anymore.

 

[VolGee4]

I know it's common sense, but it was very refreshing to hear Coach Pruitt talking about the OL guys practicing at different spots. For those that didn't see it, he said (paraphrasing), "if you've got your 2-deep for offensive lineman and your backup right tackle is the 10th best OL player, and your starting right tackle gets hurt, you don't want to put your 10th best OL out there, you want to put your 6th best OL out there."

Butch would have had some kind of damn chart that tells him who to put in and spoken condescendingly, assuming that reporters and fans just don't have the football IQ to understand how those decisions are made.

To be fair, under Butch, they did cross train their OL. So much so, that people criticized it, thinking that it did not help the OL in their starting positions. I think it’s going to more of scheme and S&C changes that will help our OL.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

Busted

Bust deez

 

[Bauce]

Busted

Bust deez

 

[VOLuptuousBOOMS]

Cool note when reading an article about West Virginia. The author was describing how they (WV) was one of the worst offenses in 3rd down effiency last year. He then proceeded to say Colorado State was one of the only two FBS schools with over 50% efficiency on third downs.

Having the Helton/Friend combo is big time.

 

[barrylee]

Taking all this with a grain a salt. Players always start showing out this time of year but when it comes to the regular season hear nothing out of them.

Can always count on a like from catbone if post anything negative..

 

[Sleegro]

I know it's common sense, but it was very refreshing to hear Coach Pruitt talking about the OL guys practicing at different spots. For those that didn't see it, he said (paraphrasing), "if you've got your 2-deep for offensive lineman and your backup right tackle is the 10th best OL player, and your starting right tackle gets hurt, you don't want to put your 10th best OL out there, you want to put your 6th best OL out there."

Butch would have had some kind of damn chart that tells him who to put in and spoken condescendingly, assuming that reporters and fans just don't have the football IQ to understand how those decisions are made.

Pretty sure butch did cross train on the OL. And I also think he probably said something similar to that. He just didn't execute very well in the having a coach who could actually coach them department.

 

[ChattaTNVol]

Ainge had a pretty interesting show today. He talked a lot about the timeline and selection process for the 2-deep coming out of fall camp. He said you can’t really tell who the “players” are going to be by observing them in shorts. You need to see them in pads (contact). He was emphasizing the actual shortness of the timeline of fall camp. He said our guys would only have about 4 or 5 practices in pads before the staff starts making their selections (August 12th). About a week after that, around August 19th, the depth chart will probably be set – even if we’re not privy to it. Around the 22nd or 23rd we’ll probably get an early start on getting ready for WVU.

He talked about how the previous staff failed to teach our better athletes what to do and consequently there were times we wouldn’t have our best players on the field. He said Fulmer would hold his staff accountable for not having a 4 or 5 star guy ready to play in regards to knowing what to do at his position. He said he was confident that this would not be an issue with this staff but the point was once you identify your “players” you (staff) have to teach them what to do.

They talked about misinformation that comes out in practice reports. It’s just the nature of the business. It’s not intentional but reporters don’t really see enough of the real practices to provide accurate information. Additionally, a lot of information is closely guarded by the staff for obvious reasons. Having said that, after the 19th, we probably will have a pretty clear picture of who our 1’s and 2’s are going to be, based on practice reports.

They talked about the QB question and a number of players, including DWA, Alontae, and Bituli. Regarding the QB competition they said we all know it’s not a 4-way competition. There are only 2 guys in that race. The players know that and the 4-way bit is just public statements. Ainge said about 50% of the idea that every position was open for competition isn’t what is actually usually going on. Like Trey Smith for example, no one is competing for his spot. You can identify others. The point he was trying to make throughout the show was guys who are in fact competing for a spot will have only a very few practices after pads go on to show that they are players. After 4 or 5 days in pads the selection process will be underway in earnest. The message was that fall camp, billed as 25 practices or whatever, is really a lot shorter than many people realize.

 

[RockyTopInBham]

Very interesting to me that Tim Jordan is probably going to get the bulk of the carries and took most of the first team reps yesterday reportedly. I’m wondering they don’t try Chandler out in the slot receiver point at some point. Looks to me they really mean it when they want a bigger back. I just want No. 3 on the field. But I don’t think they even tried that out in the spring.

And Freakly as much as I love me some Ty Chandler, he doesn’t look as filled out physically that much differently from last year.

Thoughts?

I don't think Jordan will end up taking a bulk of the reps. This is a straight-up committee, IMO, and they probably feel comfortable in what they have in London. Possibly Chandler too. I'd bet none of them get more than 12 or so carries per game.

 

[ChattaTNVol]

PFF SEC Preview - Quarterback Spotlight
By Gordon McGuinness • Aug 6, 2018

Tennessee

The Tennessee Volunteers have a two-man battle at quarterback, and right now it’s anyone’s guess which of Jarrett Guarantano and Keller Chryst will open the year as the starter. Chryst, a graduate-transfer from Stanford, had some big performances last year, including a PFF grade of 93.1 in the game against Oregon. Guarantano started in the second half of the year for Tennessee in 2017 and was solid when kept free from pressure, producing an 81.3 adjusted completion percentage. When under pressure was a different story, as his adjusted completion percentage dropped to 61.4 percent. Both have the potential to deliver for Tennessee, but their success has come in short bursts rather than sustained performances so far.

PFF SEC Preview - Quarterback Spotlight | NFL Draft news and analysis | Pro Football Focus

 

[engineerVOL]

There’s no contest IMO, Guarantano is the man.

 

[drvenner]

Ainge had a pretty interesting show today. He talked a lot about the timeline and selection process for the 2-deep coming out of fall camp. He said you can’t really tell who the “players” are going to be by observing them in shorts. You need to see them in pads (contact). He was emphasizing the actual shortness of the timeline of fall camp. He said our guys would only have about 4 or 5 practices in pads before the staff starts making their selections (August 12th). About a week after that, around August 19th, the depth chart will probably be set – even if we’re not privy to it. Around the 22nd or 23rd we’ll probably get an early start on getting ready for WVU.

He talked about how the previous staff failed to teach our better athletes what to do and consequently there were times we wouldn’t have our best players on the field. He said Fulmer would hold his staff accountable for not having a 4 or 5 star guy ready to play in regards to knowing what to do at his position. He said he was confident that this would not be an issue with this staff but the point was once you identify your “players” you (staff) have to teach them what to do.

They talked about misinformation that comes out in practice reports. It’s just the nature of the business. It’s not intentional but reporters don’t really see enough of the real practices to provide accurate information. Additionally, a lot of information is closely guarded by the staff for obvious reasons. Having said that, after the 19th, we probably will have a pretty clear picture of who our 1’s and 2’s are going to be, based on practice reports.

They talked about the QB question and a number of players, including DWA, Alontae, and Bituli. Regarding the QB competition they said we all know it’s not a 4-way competition. There are only 2 guys in that race. The players know that and the 4-way bit is just public statements. Ainge said about 50% of the idea that every position was open for competition isn’t what is actually usually going on. Like Trey Smith for example, no one is competing for his spot. You can identify others. The point he was trying to make throughout the show was guys who are in fact competing for a spot will have only a very few practices after pads go on to show that they are players. After 4 or 5 days in pads the selection process will be underway in earnest. The message was that fall camp, billed as 25 practices or whatever, is really a lot shorter than many people realize.

Thanks for the summary. I think that he also specifically mentioned that KC would only have about a week in pads to show the coaches he should be strongly considered for the job, or something to that effect.

 

[SpringBokVol]

I 100% believe the coaches know who their No. 1 QB is.

 

[Souce]

I will be making my annual visit to the hospital this afternoon to be placed in a medically induced 25-day coma. August is the hardest month of the year to get through.

 

[barrylee]

I don't think Jordan will end up taking a bulk of the reps. This is a straight-up committee, IMO, and they probably feel comfortable in what they have in London. Possibly Chandler too. I'd bet none of them get more than 12 or so carries per game.

I read somewhere on here earlier that Chandler was running w the perceived 1's.. Gotta think Chandler will get plenty of carries..

 

[JP_UT_O&W]

It happened again.

3 days in to fall camp.

XV-Nulla

 

[RiotVol]

Ainge had a pretty interesting show today. He talked a lot about the timeline and selection process for the 2-deep coming out of fall camp. He said you can’t really tell who the “players” are going to be by observing them in shorts. You need to see them in pads (contact). He was emphasizing the actual shortness of the timeline of fall camp. He said our guys would only have about 4 or 5 practices in pads before the staff starts making their selections (August 12th). About a week after that, around August 19th, the depth chart will probably be set – even if we’re not privy to it. Around the 22nd or 23rd we’ll probably get an early start on getting ready for WVU.

He talked about how the previous staff failed to teach our better athletes what to do and consequently there were times we wouldn’t have our best players on the field. He said Fulmer would hold his staff accountable for not having a 4 or 5 star guy ready to play in regards to knowing what to do at his position. He said he was confident that this would not be an issue with this staff but the point was once you identify your “players” you (staff) have to teach them what to do.

They talked about misinformation that comes out in practice reports. It’s just the nature of the business. It’s not intentional but reporters don’t really see enough of the real practices to provide accurate information. Additionally, a lot of information is closely guarded by the staff for obvious reasons. Having said that, after the 19th, we probably will have a pretty clear picture of who our 1’s and 2’s are going to be, based on practice reports.

They talked about the QB question and a number of players, including DWA, Alontae, and Bituli. Regarding the QB competition they said we all know it’s not a 4-way competition. There are only 2 guys in that race. The players know that and the 4-way bit is just public statements. Ainge said about 50% of the idea that every position was open for competition isn’t what is actually usually going on. Like Trey Smith for example, no one is competing for his spot. You can identify others. The point he was trying to make throughout the show was guys who are in fact competing for a spot will have only a very few practices after pads go on to show that they are players. After 4 or 5 days in pads the selection process will be underway in earnest. The message was that fall camp, billed as 25 practices or whatever, is really a lot shorter than many people realize.

Never leave us for the ff forum. I straight up don't want to have to go over there to find your posts.

 

[Chuckie]

It happened again.

3 days in to fall camp.

XV-Nulla

No lo comprendo.

 

[BruinVol]

I 100% believe the coaches know who their No. 1 QB is.

Agreed. Imo JG doesn't have a shot

 

[85SugarVol]

 

[JP_UT_O&W]

No lo comprendo.

I'm back to 100% sunshine pumper. I want bama.

I think we have a real good shot to win 8 or 9 in regular season.

It's amazing to have coaches back on The Hill.

 

[SpringBokVol]

 

[RiotVol]

So... anyone got $10 to burn?

 

[Chuckie]

I'm back to 100% sunshine pumper. I want bama.

I think we have a real good shot to win 8 or 9 in regular season.

It's amazing to have coaches back on The Hill.

Aaaaah, gracias.

 

[JP_UT_O&W]

Interesting to hear Jordan Murphy, Theo Jackson, and Bryce Thompson returning punts. Good options there.

We will miss Trevor Daniel.