Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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I'm in the camp that thinks much of our problems last year was attributable to "losing the locker room" sometime after the 2015 season concluded. It wasn't totally apparent until the older guys from 2016 moved on. Then, especially with the absence of Jennings, Kirkland, and maybe a few others, there was a void in leadership.

Anyway, I've been reading a number of articles that address the issue of "losing the locker room" and this clip from one of those articles had me laughing at how familiar it seemed.

There is a fine balance between being too unbending and being too flexible, and it’s tough to achieve. But any coach who gets this slightly wrong will always be forgiven – or at least tolerated – if he or she has a reputation for being straightforward, honest and sufficiently humble that the god complex that often goes hand in hand with ultimate power in any environment is nowhere to be seen.

Plenty of coaches lie to players. They fluff over selection conversations, using unoriginal excuses or mindlessly placating the angry player by guaranteeing game time from the reserves bench, despite having no idea how the game will be going at that point.

Truly, it’s alarming how many of those in these positions find it impossible to be totally honest with players, and how often their status seems, to them, to dismiss the need for humility. Perhaps they think they wouldn’t have achieved this lofty position were they not omniscient. Either way, players hate it and, eventually, the manager pays the price.

This only ever ends one way, and it seems crazy to me that someone so unaware and, ultimately, arrogant can get so far in any line of work.
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ChattaTNVol said:
I'm in the camp that thinks much of our problems last year was attributable to "losing the locker room" sometime after the 2015 season concluded. It wasn't totally apparent until the older guys from 2016 moved on. Then, especially with the absence of Jennings, Kirkland, and maybe a few others, there was a void in leadership.

Anyway, I've been reading a number of articles that address the issue of "losing the locker room" and this clip from one of those articles had me laughing at how familiar it seemed.
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The notion that this team doesn’t have the talent to win is flat out wrong. Lack of S&C, horrible coaching, and the mismanagement of players is why last years team went 4-8.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Braves bringing Venters home
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Lol...everyone else making big moves, and we are bringing a guy back who has had 3 Tommy John surgeries. Figures. I knew we wouldn’t make any big trades by the deadline to compete. They are pretty much done. Have been playing .500 baseball for the last 60 games or so, and that includes a long stretch against sub .500 teams. The offense is extremely inconsistent, and starting pitching is really struggling.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
I'm in the camp that thinks much of our problems last year was attributable to "losing the locker room" sometime after the 2015 season concluded. It wasn't totally apparent until the older guys from 2016 moved on. Then, especially with the absence of Jennings, Kirkland, and maybe a few others, there was a void in leadership.

Anyway, I've been reading a number of articles that address the issue of "losing the locker room" and this clip from one of those articles had me laughing at how familiar it seemed.
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- Rocky Bottom, A Butch Jones Biography pg. 109
 
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McGeesPub said:
I think in the SEC, if you have more than one class ranked lower than top 10 in a 4 year cycle, you are likely going to be in trouble.

Someone will inevitably ask “What if that lowest class is 11th or 12th?,” hence the “likely.”
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Would you rather have 3 classes ranked 10th and one 9th or 2 ranked 11 and two ranked #1?


:)
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Lol...everyone else making big moves, and we are bringing a guy back who has had 3 Tommy John surgeries. Figures. I knew we wouldn’t make any big trades by the deadline to compete. They are pretty much done. Have been playing .500 baseball for the last 60 games or so, and that includes a long stretch against sub .500 teams. The offense is extremely inconsistent, and starting pitching is really struggling.
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I get it, but Venters is still better than Freeman and Moylan. We only gave up international money that we couldn’t use anyway because of the restrictions so in reality he helps us and we didn’t spend anything to get him. They need to do better tho I agree and get someone elite to add to the pitching staff. Need another bat also
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
I get it, but Venters is still better than Freeman and Moylan. We only gave up international money that we couldn’t use anyway because of the restrictions so in reality he helps us and we didn’t spend anything to get him. They need to do better tho I agree and get someone elite to add to the pitching staff. Need another bat also
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Yep. The first two months of the season really had me fooled. But now the season is going about how I expected it would before it started. There are definitely pieces for a bright future, but we have a lot of holes too. Hate that the Phillies rebuild is going better than ours.
 
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vol2002 said:
Yep. The first two months of the season really had me fooled. But now the season is going about how I expected it would before it started. There are definitely pieces for a bright future, but we have a lot of holes too. Hate that the Phillies rebuild is going better than ours.
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They have better pitching. Our pitchers are still in the minors and aren’t ready yet.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Lol...everyone else making big moves, and we are bringing a guy back who has had 3 Tommy John surgeries. Figures. I knew we wouldn’t make any big trades by the deadline to compete. They are pretty much done. Have been playing .500 baseball for the last 60 games or so, and that includes a long stretch against sub .500 teams. The offense is extremely inconsistent, and starting pitching is really struggling.
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May be smart to wait as they may still be a year away. I don't know that they're consistent enough to compete even with a splashy trade. I doubt they'd be able to beat the Yankees or the Astros yet. Wait til next year and one trade may get them over that hump.
 
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Sleegro said:
Didn't Miami have Frank gore, Clinton Portis, and Willis mcgahee at the same time? I'm not sure any team ever will compete with the talent on that 01 Miami team. They had all pros who couldn't get on the field.
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Yep.

Not sure we’ll ever see a team as talented as that 01 Miami team. The definition of loaded.
 
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Sleegro said:
Didn't Miami have Frank gore, Clinton Portis, and Willis mcgahee at the same time? I'm not sure any team ever will compete with the talent on that 01 Miami team. They had all pros who couldn't get on the field.
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01 miami best team I've ever watched...
 
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5* kayvon thibodeaux

Gotta love the state of fl right now... :eek:lol:
 

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Anyone watch the best of VFL films on SEC channel last night? Pretty good.
 
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