We are an entitled, petty, barbaric country: Handicapped parking shooting

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zeppelin128 said:
The parking situation set everything in motion. If this piece of trash would have minded his own damn business like a normal person, he wouldn't have blood on his hands.

Is your immediate reaction to a fight to murder someone? The victim should not have thrown dude on the ground, but I think putting a bullet in his chest is an extreme overreaction.

Also, if someone was threatening/harassing your SO, would you not intervene in some way? Especially with your kids around? Or stand there and let this POS intimidate and eventually attack your SO and kids?

I hope the guy gets arrested and tried for murder. He won't though. And he'll kill somebody else eventually.
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I think it’s kinda trashy when non handicapped people take spaces from handicapped people.
 
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Obsessed said:
It’s all good. 30k in med bills and 2 months of rehab fixed me right up.


You and Mom doing ok?
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We're good, brother. Family all under one roof for another month. I'm close to wrapping up Bruce Banner too.
 
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McDad said:
You're saying even if local authorities pass on pressing charges?
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No.

All that has happened is that the Sheriff has decided not to arrest him. The report and video will get sent to the State Attorney, which is actually local, and they will decide whether to charge him.

My guess is that it gets submitted to the grand jury. So it's not over by a long shot.

As I say above, however, if prosecuted the state is going to have a tough time.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
I think it’s kinda trashy when non handicapped people take spaces from handicapped people.
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It is trashy, but not your's or mine business. We've all seen people do it; a normal person's reaction would be to internally say "what a douche canoe" and go about their day. "Good guy with a gun" thinks otherwise, since he is emboldened by the knowledge he is carrying.

Certainly not worth murdering a dude over it.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
This whole situation is tragic and pathetic at the same time. Much like your first comment about overweight people.
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The ADA has turned handicapped parking from a courtesy extended to people with special needs into an entitlement for old, overweight, lazy sloths. This guy was one of those entitled bums.

But then again, I am torn because I see how the black people reacted and realize you have some entitlement issues going on there, as well. The woman was interviewed and said "can't nobody tell me where to park" or something along those lines. I get that on one hand... clearly nothing to get shot over. But again, it goes back to "courtesy". There may actually be a person with needs out there that would need that spot, so have consideration for them.

I come down hard on cops when they escalate a petty situation into a shooting, and I'm just as hard on the citizenry.
 
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lawgator1 said:
No.

All that has happened is that the Sheriff has decided not to arrest him. The report and video will get sent to the State Attorney, which is actually local, and they will decide whether to charge him.

My guess is that it gets submitted to the grand jury. So it's not over by a long shot.

As I say above, however, if prosecuted the state is going to have a tough time.
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The Sherriff seemed to be treading slowly. Good move. Get it right if not quick.
 
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McDad said:
We're good, brother. Family all under one roof for another month. I'm close to wrapping up Bruce Banner too.
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I’m very happy to hear this!

Maybe McMom can cook us up some of that Cajun cuisine one night and we can catch the hulk up on things.
 
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Obsessed said:
I’m very happy to hear this!

Maybe McMom can cook us up some of that Cajun cuisine one night and we can catch the hulk up on things.
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Yeah buddy. gotta get together the next time we go thru memphis.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
It is trashy, but not your's or mine business. We've all seen people do it; a normal person's reaction would be to internally say "what a douche canoe" and go about their day. "Good guy with a gun" thinks otherwise, since he is emboldened by the knowledge he is carrying.

Certainly not worth murdering a dude over it.
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I see the talking points have been distributed. He wasn’t killed over a parking space, was he? He assaulted someone and wound up on the wrong end of a gun.
 
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Obsessed said:
It’s all good. 30k in med bills and 2 months of rehab fixed me right up.


You and Mom doing ok?
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Great ! I'm at the beach at Cape San Blas for 10 days doing fix up work. She is at home with her parents driving her crazy. They live on their own ( should be in a an assisted facility), and caught the stove on fire, opened the oven door, fanning the flames, and squirted fire extinguisher goo all over the kitchen. Made a terrible mess of a good portion of the kitchen . She has been on cleanup detail.

Only a matter of time before they burn it down, or have a wreck and kill somebody.That is why we both can't go anywhere.
 
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lawgator1 said:
As I say above, however, if prosecuted the state is going to have a tough time.
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I'll take your word for it, but I'm thinking there is going to be a difficult time for the defense to prove there was still a threat.

I'm not as up to speed on the changes in that law in FL, but I do understand in most SYG cases, once the threat is gone, you cannot use the "danger of loss of life, limb or eyesight" defense.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'll take your word for it, but I'm thinking there is going to be a difficult time for the defense to prove there was still a threat.

I'm not as up to speed on the changes in that law in FL, but I do understand in most SYG cases, once the threat is gone, you cannot use the "danger of loss of life, limb or eyesight" defense.
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I agree. Of course we all read this article and are now experts on this case. I think we should wait and see how it unfolds...
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
I see the talking points have been distributed. He wasn’t killed over a parking space, was he? He assaulted someone and wound up on the wrong end of a gun.
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The entire altercation started over a parking space. I've said it over and over, guy shouldn't have assaulted dude. And that POS shouldn't have murdered him for it. It is an extreme overreaction.
 
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Caleb59seal said:
I have a brother with Muscular Dystrophy and if I see it, I can guarantee they won’t be there for long... or their car won’t.
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It really isn't that serious, no matter what the situation is.

You would really risk a confrontation like this (or just a mild altercation) over a parking spot?

You need help.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'll take your word for it, but I'm thinking there is going to be a difficult time for the defense to prove there was still a threat.

I'm not as up to speed on the changes in that law in FL, but I do understand in most SYG cases, once the threat is gone, you cannot use the "danger of loss of life, limb or eyesight" defense.
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That's just it. The defense doesn't have to prove it. The state must affirmatively disprove it.

When this was getting debated, the NRA was THE major backer. State prosecutors were dead against it for fear they'd be hamstrung in even getting cases to a jury. The NRA went after them, ran ads.

And they are almost all conservative Republicans and almost all were in the NRA. It got ugly.
 
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