Why isn't the board in full melt down?

It's deflection and redirection, you should expect the red hat outlets to engage in lots of this over the next few news cycles.

Anything to take the light off of the bed shting in Helsinki.

You got a reasonable explanation on why the FBI or any other entity other than Crowdstrike was not allowed access to this server hardware?

Look at the National **** storm resulting from this server hack. A hack that occurred after they were told it was coming. And a hack that wasnt allowed to be verified by the FBI cyber experts first hand?
 
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It's deflection and redirection, you should expect the red hat outlets to engage in lots of this over the next few news cycles.

Anything to take the light off of the bed shting in Helsinki.

Well..., that's one view I suppose
 
You got a reasonable explanation on why the FBI or any other entity other than Crowdstrike was not allowed access to this server hardware?

Look at the National **** storm resulting from this server hack. A hack that occurred after they were told it was coming. And a hack that wasnt allowed to be verified by the FBI cyber experts first hand?

It's complete lunacy
 
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Here's the thing guy, I'm not liberal.


I'm a right leaning free thinking patriotic American who wasn't seduced by a demagogue. And doesn't like people who demonstrates no laudable leadership qualities being the most powerful man in the world.

Sounds like you need to start a #walkaway movement, but alternatively you can continue to live in a safe space.
 
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Let's not characterize my reaction as riled up. I'm attempting to discern why some on the right support trump's statements while they condemned Obama.
You're willing to wait and see with trump and his statements. You didn't give Obama the same deference on his apology tour. That seems like defending him.

The statements I referred to were trump's tweet about american foolishness and stupidity and his willingness to believe Putin over his intelligence agencies. I think the statements were ill advised, but ultimately harmless. BTW, I viewed Obama's apology in much the same way.

I didn't view it as treasonous. Those who suggest trump should be impeached for this are delusional. I do think it shows his inexperience on that stage and wish he'd learn from his past mistakes. The morning tweet was stupid and the comment at the presser was a result of simply not being properly prepared. He should have had a quick sound bite ready for that question.

Muh Obama right?
 
Here's the thing guy, I'm not liberal.


I'm a right leaning free thinking patriotic American who wasn't seduced by a demagogue. And doesn't like people who demonstrates no laudable leadership qualities being the most powerful man in the world.

Whatever you say. You are free to feel as you like. Of course the statement seduced by a demagogue is laughably sophomoric.
 
IMO it’s not an apology tour as you put it..... it’s what trump does... he schemes to get what he wants to accomplish.....he is not that hard to figure out.

Evidently he is.

Trump gets up and starts finger wagging at Putin, Putin gives the US a big **** you and walks away. That really gets a lot accomplished.

Generally when someone lives in your head rent free, they get an apartment. Between Nancy, Zep, and CWV he has Trump Towers.
 
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You know, CWV, I respect you for the things you've been through in this life, but that irrational thought where Trump is concerned overtakes your brain every once in a while.

Trump is asking a question about the DNC server. SAME ****ING QUESTION SO MANY OF US HAVE ASKED SINCE IT HAPPENED.

Same. One.

Go back to your law school days. What's the first thing they teach you about chain of evidence likely in your first semester?

Don't violate the chain of evidence. Things become, what's the word? Oh, INADMISSIBLE in court. The problem here is the freaking Agencies tasked with getting that evidence NEVER HAD THE ****ING EVIDENCE, NEVER SAW THE EVIDENCE AND RELIED SOLELY ON A CONTRACTED THIRD PARTY OF THE VERY ENTITY THAT WAS HACKED TO PROVIDE THEM EVIDENCE.

You, as a lawyer, would have a field day with that in court. Don't even try to deny it. You'd be grinning like a mule eating green briers if something like this came across your desk and you were on the defense.

"Did you ever see the physical evidence?"

"No, but we saw copies of and traced this and that and one other thing which supported the copy we saw."

"But you never saw the physical evidence?"

"Well...no."

"Why not?"

"Well, they wouldn't let us."

Don't act like you can't sew all kinds of disbelief into a jury or judge's head in that line of questioning. That's like a lawyer wet dream right there.

Furthermore, Putin is playing his chess game again. He knows by telling us "sure, come observe as our treaty allows" he puts Mueller in a corner. Furthermore, how in the hell would this ever go to court without having to bring some of our sources and methods to light? Yeah, we've ****ed ourselves good with this one. We are backed into a corner and Putin knows it. I had an old supervisor that used to tell me "I'll give you all the rope in the world." Either to pull myself up to to hang myself. Right now, we're hanging ourselves.

In a situation this massive and potentially destabilizing for decades to come between two nuclear powers, wouldn't you want every piece of evidence you could possibly get including the source evidence to prove your case to the world? Would you accept "no, you can't have it" as an answer if you were the lead investigator?

WTF is wrong with you? Nations have gone to war over lesser things than this. But you want to blindly believe what a contracted third party was saying? That very same third party that was contracted by the DNC?

Here's the real questions you need to be asking.

WTF are we doing to keep it from happening again if indeed a foreign power was influencing our elections?

And who benefits the most from this situation we're currently in?

Putin? What does he have to gain? A sympathetic President that could change out in four years and we go back to the status quo?

The GOP? What did they have to gain besides a candidate they didn't want?

The DNC? I'll let you answer this one.


What questions did trump ask yesterday? I have been talking about his supporters reaction to two statements he made. Again, you've missed the point of the thread and gone on some justification tangent.

I'm not even sure what I'm supposed to do with the mess you typed above.
 
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What questions did trump ask yesterday? I have been talking about his supporters reaction to two statements he made. Again, you've missed the point of the thread and gone on some justification tangent.

I'm not even sure what I'm supposed to do with the mess you typed above.

Yeah, I'm not surprised.
 
The same people on this board who condemned Obama for “bowing” to another countries leader are totally okay with a president literally acting on behalf of a hostile power.
 
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The same people on this board who condemned Obama for “bowing” to another countries leader are totally okay with a president literally acting on behalf of a hostile power.

While the same people who viewed Russia as harmless for years because Obama told them to are now all of a sudden seeing Russia as a major threat while feeling high and mighty about it.

:popcorn:
 
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While the same people who viewed Russia as harmless for years because Obama told them to are now all of a sudden seeing Russia as a major threat while feeling high and mighty about it.

:popcorn:

I’d love to see where ANYBODY on this board said that Russia was harmless. I’d personally call them an idiot. Of course they are a threat. When you have someone like Putin in power, they will always be a threat.
 
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It's hilarious, you can see the tiny cogs turning in Wolf Blitzers head as he tries to comprehend someone who doesn't espouse the enforced groupthink

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFXeiTglfU0[/youtube]

Paul is on point here, btw
 
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I’d love to see where ANYBODY on this board said that Russia was harmless. I’d personally call them an idiot. Of course they are a threat. When you have someone like Putin in power, they will always be a threat.

“The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”
 
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I’d love to see where ANYBODY on this board said that Russia was harmless. I’d personally call them an idiot. Of course they are a threat. When you have someone like Putin in power, they will always be a threat.

So we should sell them a crap load of uranium.
But this is so much worse than that.


Nope it’s just ssdd.
Or same **** different leader
 
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It's hilarious, you can see the tiny cogs turning in Wolf Blitzers head as he tries to comprehend someone who doesn't espouse the enforced groupthink

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFXeiTglfU0[/youtube]

Paul is on point here, btw

Agreed with everything Rand said here. "Wolf you're a better interviewer than this".

Lulz
 
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