TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

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NorthDallas40 said:
Lol. The DNC refused to give the FBI cyber people the server hardware and the FBI backed down. The only account of the server forensics is that of Crowdstrike.

This is the same server the provided the data that you guys are so much up in arms about. The fabled “hack”. And our government cyber people have not be allowed to validate the hack.

So you’re totally off the rails about this attack on our democracy. You’re even cheering for the 12 indictments resulting from this “hack”.

But you totally blow off the governments lack of access to the server to validate this whole situation and verify the providence of the data resulting from the hack.

Does that sound like a reasonable investigative process to you?
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Read the article I linked above. The FBI got everything they wanted. They got a complete imaging and preserved the server to maintain its integrity. It's now nothing but a red herring. I trust Mueller has verified the image is full and accurate.
 
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luthervol said:
Read the article I linked above. The FBI got everything they wanted. They got a complete imaging and preserved the server to maintain its integrity. It's now nothing but a red herring. I trust Mueller has verified the image is full and accurate.
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I don’t. What did he verify it against Luth?

"We got the forensics from the pros that they hired which -- again, best practice is always to get access to the machines themselves, but this, my folks tell me, was an appropriate substitute," Comey said.
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Based on the total and complete **** storm this server hack has resulted in I would demand “best practice” if I was in your shoes and you wanted to insure the hack was validated. Why don’t you guys want that?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Incorrect. They never touched the real server. Did you read your own link? Or see my edit above?

You are demanding satisfaction here aren’t you?
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It says nothing about Mueller and his investigators being denied access to the server.

If the actual server is important, then Mueller has had access.
 
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luthervol said:
It says nothing about Mueller and his investigators being denied access to the server.

If the actual server is important, then Mueller has had access.
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No Luther there is absolutely zero information to substantiate your claim. Comey clearly stated they did not get access and you conveniently ignore that and insert your own wild ass guess. Convenient to say the least. And we’re the ones rationalizing everything away ...🙄
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
No Luther there is absolutely zero information to substantiate your claim. Comey clearly stated they did not get access and you conveniently ignore that and insert your own wild ass guess. Convenient to say the least. And we’re the ones rationalizing everything away ...🙄
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Let's assume you were right and there's no collusion.

That does not change the fact that Trump is clearly compromised by Russia. Financial. Blackmail. They've got control of him somehow. It's painfully obvious.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
No Luther there is absolutely zero information to substantiate your claim. Comey clearly stated they did not get access and you conveniently ignore that and insert your own wild ass guess. Convenient to say the least. And we’re the ones rationalizing everything away ...🙄
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That was months ago.

If it's important, Mueller has access.

If he hasn't looked at the server, he knows the image is sufficient and that there is no need.

Either way, all is good.

Right wing conspiracy RED HERRING.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Let's assume you were right and there's no collusion.

That does not change the fact that Trump is clearly compromised by Russia. Financial. Blackmail. They've got control of him somehow. It's painfully obvious.
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So, for the thousandth time, can you prove it?

That’s all we’re asking LG. Proof. If you want to unseat a sitting president you better have hard proof.

And all you continually give is tantalizing foreplay. You even got coy earlier on the whole July 27 2016 date hinting in the indictments. I fired back page and paragraph number. I’ve read it all. Three times now. There is not a shred of even reasonable circumstantial evidence hinting the Russians acted at Trumps request. But you guys keep being coy about it being obvious. No. It isn’t.
 
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luthervol said:
That was months ago.

If it's important, Mueller has access.

If he hasn't looked at the server, he knows the image is sufficient and that there is no need.

Either way, all is good.

Right wing conspiracy RED HERRING.
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Ok so nope you got nothing. Again. It isn’t a red herring. It’s a statement of fact. The only source of information about that server is Crowdstrike. A third party firm, not a part of the federal government.

It stinks to complete high heaven.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
So, for the thousandth time, can you prove it?

That’s all we’re asking LG. Proof. If you want to unseat a sitting president you better have hard proof.

And all you continually give is tantalizing foreplay. You even got coy earlier on the whole July 27 2016 date hinting in the indictments. I fired back page and paragraph number. I’ve read it all. Three times now. There is not a shred of even reasonable circumstantial evidence hinting the Russians acted at Trumps request. But you guys keep being coy about it being obvious. No. It isn’t.
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I think that's what the whole Mueller investigation is for. The right wing needs to stop trying to derail the investigation, we all wait for the findings, and then we proceed accordingly.
 
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luthervol said:
I think that's what the whole Mueller investigation is for. The right wing needs to stop trying to derail the investigation, we all wait for the findings, and then we proceed accordingly.
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Get the server put in the government’s hands and we’ll talk. Until then I want to know why the hell the FBI and DOJ got waived off and stood for it.

By the FBI directors own words in your link it did not meet “best practice”. Anything less in this case is criminal negligence as far as I’m concerned.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Get the server put in the government’s hands and we’ll talk. Until then I want to know why the hell the FBI and DOJ got waived off and stood for it.

By the FBI directors own words in your link it did not meet “best practice”. Anything less in this case is criminal negligence as far as I’m concerned.
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That's why Mueller has access. Who are you going to trust more than Mueller at this point? Settle down and wait for the findings.
 
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luthervol said:
That's why Mueller has access. Who are you going to trust more than Mueller at this point? Settle down and wait for the findings.
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He doesn’t have access to the server. Enough with that false narrative. He has the data he was given by a third party. I won’t trust any government investigative branch that is not demanding first hand access to the server. This laughable chain of custody will get thrown out of any trial and ill make a money bet that’s what happens if any of these ridiculous indictments actually make it to trial. Any defense attorney should be licking his chops over this.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
So, for the thousandth time, can you prove it?

That’s all we’re asking LG. Proof. If you want to unseat a sitting president you better have hard proof.

And all you continually give is tantalizing foreplay. You even got coy earlier on the whole July 27 2016 date hinting in the indictments. I fired back page and paragraph number. I’ve read it all. Three times now. There is not a shred of even reasonable circumstantial evidence hinting the Russians acted at Trumps request. But you guys keep being coy about it being obvious. No. It isn’t.
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We'll, first, I'm not talking collusion. I'm saying that Trump's two years of favoritism of Russia, as he bashes our own, is exceptionally strong circumstantial evidence of compromise.

Second, let's talk collusion. Was it coincidence they started the hack the day Trump asked them to?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
He doesn’t have access to the server. Enough with that false narrative. He has the data he was given by a third party. I won’t trust any government investigative branch that is not demanding first hand access to the server. This laughable chain of custody will get thrown out of any trial and ill make a money bet that’s what happens if any of these ridiculous indictments actually make it to trial. Any defense attorney should be licking his chops over this.
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lol.....You don't think Mueller knows what you know. He has access. He's seen it, if he views it as necessary. He's not going to let his whole case crumble because he didn't look at a server to which he has access.

Wake up man. Get the right wing propaganda out of your head and think!
 
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lawgator1 said:
Let's assume you were right and there's no collusion.

That does not change the fact that Trump is clearly compromised by Russia. Financial. Blackmail. They've got control of him somehow. It's painfully obvious.
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Ok, cool. Where is the proof of this? Oh that's right, there is no proof. You are just grasping at straws as usual.
 
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luthervol said:
I think that's what the whole Mueller investigation is for. The right wing needs to stop trying to derail the investigation, we all wait for the findings, and then we proceed accordingly.
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I swear, I hope this investigation drags on and on. It makes the left look like garbage.
 
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lawgator1 said:
We'll, first, I'm not talking collusion. I'm saying that Trump's two years of favoritism of Russia, as he bashes our own, is exceptionally strong circumstantial evidence of compromise. I’ve personally dropped a link on you multiple times from a reputable source that proves this narrative is false. Trumps Russia policy is more comprehensive and far reaching than Obama’s and he’s had less than two years to achieve that. You won’t read or acknowledge it. That is on you

Second, let's talk collusion. Was it coincidence they started the hack the day Trump asked them to? Its too weak to even call coincidence and I’ve not seen a single shred of information offering any correlation and I’ve looked. Page 7 paragraph 22 of the indictment. It references a season of attacks thru the summer of 2016 and states starting on or about July 27 2016. It’s absolutely laughable to try and connect them. That false narrative has already scrolled off the bottom of even CNNs page.
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luthervol said:
lol.....You don't think Mueller knows what you know. He has access. He's seen it, if he views it as necessary. He's not going to let his whole case crumble because he didn't look at a server to which he has access.

Wake up man. Get the right wing propaganda out of your head and think!
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Lol. Your boy Comey even stated it and you guys refuse to acknowledge it. And I need to wake up?
 
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