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[BowlBrother85]

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Except that he didn't express confidence in his DNI today. He took the word of Putin over Coats. End/

 

[zeppelin128]

Let me ask you out of control mouthbreathers a couple of questions...

1. What did you expect Trump to say while on the podium with Putin? Call him a liar in front of the world media? Go over and punch him in the face?

Possibly say what he said and deal with it when he gets home and consults with his Cabinet?

2. Why are you ignoring the fact Putin stated he would allow questioning of the 12 under indictment? Even if it's an empty promise, we still have to follow through with said avenue. The ball will be in Mueller's court over that one.

3. Anything else you'd like to whine about before the day is over?

"Our investigation is still ongoing. We will work with the Russian government, as well as domestic and our allies' agencies, in this matter. We will not tolerate any interference in our political process."

Something to that effect, in his own speaking manner of course.

He's getting roasted by Republicans in Congress and even Fox News. Honestly it was one of his better press conferences on the whole, but he really screwed up throwing our IC under the bus. And it just further feeds the narrative that Trump is about Trump, not his country.

 

[golfballs]

And "innocent" doesn't mean "didn't do it". Just as our intelligence community concluded at Nuremberg that the Nazi hierarchy was guilty of crimes against humanity but couldn't stand trial for it (they were dead except for Goerring) ... our intelligence community has also concluded that Russia interfered in the 2016 election.

Your defense of this is tribalism in it's purest form. Trump took the stance that Russia didn't interfere and you have a need to defend that stance regardless of anything else.

Blame Mueller. He’s the one who charged them with crimes knowing they will never set foot in court.

 

[SLICKYINC]

"Our investigation is still ongoing. We will work with the Russian government, as well as domestic and our allies' agencies, in this matter. We will not tolerate any interference in our political process."

Something to that effect, in his own speaking manner of course.

He's getting roasted by Republicans in Congress and even Fox News. Honestly it was one of his better press conferences on the whole, but he really screwed up throwing our IC under the bus. And it just further feeds the narrative that Trump is about Trump, not his country.

More nationalism talk from an open border guy...

Edit: Socialist

 

[lawgator1]

As I said today and many times before, “I have GREAT confidence in MY intelligence people.” However, I also recognize that in order to build a brighter future, we cannot exclusively focus on the past – as the world’s two largest nuclear powers, we must get along! #HELSINKI2018


-- Donald Trump


Putin could not have said it better himself.

 

[zeppelin128]

More nationalism talk from an open border guy...

Edit: Socialist

What does that have to do with Helsinki?

 

[Vol0725]

Except that he didn't express confidence in his DNI today. He took the word of Putin over Coats. End/

No he did not, nor was that his intent.
He said he had confidence in Coates, as well as his intelligence people.

 

[SLICKYINC]

As I said today and many times before, “I have GREAT confidence in MY intelligence people.” However, I also recognize that in order to build a brighter future, we cannot exclusively focus on the past – as the world’s two largest nuclear powers, we must get along! #HELSINKI2018


-- Donald Trump


Putin could not have said it better himself.

If anyone has been on the side of "there wasn't any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq" and now totally agree with everything the "Intelligence people" say.

You might be a hypocrite or completely blinded by partisanship..

 

[lawgator1]

As I said today and many times before, “I have GREAT confidence in MY intelligence people.” However, I also recognize that in order to build a brighter future, we cannot exclusively focus on the past – as the world’s two largest nuclear powers, we must get along! #HELSINKI2018


-- Donald Trump


Putin could not have said it better himself.

Quoting myself quoting Trump.


But you know, the more I look at that, the worse it is. He seems to be saying we should forgive and forget for Russian meddling in our election.


If that does not scare the crap out of you and convince you he is a Russian stooge, I don't know what will! Especially when they are still doing it and preparing to hit us again coming up.

 

[Matt2496]

My take on the Russia issue is that Trump campaigned on "America First". Trump's comments today blaming the US and refusing to acknowledge the US's own intelligence community is in direct contradiction to what he ran on. This is definitely Trump's biggest mistake since Charlottesville last year.

However, I would say that people on both sides are overreacting. He hasn't reduced any sanctions or made any real concessions to the Russians. Therefore, other than bad optics, this is not nearly as big a deal as the Dems are making it out to be.

 

[Grand Vol]

I used to think you had a modicum of intellectual honesty to you. But now you are falling into line with the rest of the Trump defenders-at-all costs.


Does this not bother you? Are alarm bells not going off for you here? You think this is some sort of grand diplomatic strategy? Come on, you know better. Don't be ashamed to admit this is exactly what it appears to be -- Putin owns Trump.

Your answers in the quote are kinda flowery for Trump, don't you think?

Now, that's the main difference in the two of us. I've known since I joined you are a hyper-partisan knuckledragger.

Does this bother me? I'll adopt my standard canned answer of "wait and see."

 

[AM64]

The last indictments mueller filed, the folks showed up and he looked like a idiot.

Yes. I can see it happening again.

Mueller made it a lot worse this time. To prove his new stuff would require outing intelligence sources; we've deliberately not prosecuted known spies in the past to prevent that. Just the fact that he's made the claim tells Russia and everyone else that we've penetrated their system and they need to correct it. We were successful in WW2 by having hacked the German and Japanese coding systems and keeping them from knowing it while we reaped the rewards. Mueller is the one Trump should be having for lunch because Mueller just gave Russia the playbook.

 

[Obsessed]

Another domino falls ......


US charges Russian national with being a foreign agent - CNNPolitics


Inching ever closer to Trump.

Sooo. We do need a wall then?

 

[Vol0725]

This is F'in great...lol:lol:


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[Obsessed]

Mueller made it a lot worse this time. To prove his new stuff would require outing intelligence sources; we've deliberately not prosecuted known spies in the past to prevent that. Just the fact that he's made the claim tells Russia and everyone else that we've penetrated their system and they need to correct it. We were successful in WW2 by having hacked the German and Japanese coding systems and keeping them from knowing it while we reaped the rewards. Mueller is the one Trump should be having for lunch because Mueller just gave Russia the playbook.

Hmmmm

 

[lawgator1]

Reminder.


House majority leader to colleagues in 2016: ‘I think Putin pays’ Trump - The Washington Post

A month before Donald Trump clinched the Republican nomination, one of his closest allies in Congress — House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy — made a politically explosive assertion in a private conversation on Capitol Hill with his fellow GOP leaders: that Trump could be the beneficiary of payments from Russian President Vladimir Putin. “There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.
House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.
Before the conversation, McCarthy and Ryan had emerged from separate talks at the Capitol with Ukrainian Prime Minister Vladi*mir Groysman, who had described a Kremlin tactic of financing populist politicians to undercut Eastern European democratic institutions.
News had just broken the day before in The Washington Post that Russian government hackers had penetrated the computer network of the Democratic National Committee, prompting McCarthy to shift the conversation from Russian meddling in Europe to events closer to home.
Some of the lawmakers laughed at McCarthy’s comment. Then McCarthy quickly added: “Swear to God.”
Ryan instructed his Republican lieutenants to keep the conversation private, saying: “No leaks. . . . This is how we know we’re a real family here.”

They know. Yet they do nothing about it.



I don't know. Things today seem different. There does indeed seem to be a "whooo, wtf" moment going on here, even for GOPers. I think we are going to see some significant defections in coming days.

 

[Smokey'sHandler]

I'm finding it kind of comical that all of these folks who have been backing Kaepernick and the NFL protesters all blamed the folks against them of nationalism. I saw many argue on here that nationalism to the USA should be dead and is a threat.

Yet today..........

Charge Trump with Treason! He is aiding enemies of the United States and the US does not bow down to dictators! (Yet they don't know what treason is and clearly don't know that by the United States definition his comments weren't treasonous).

These comments sound pretty nationalistic to me.

 

[BowlBrother85]

No he did not, nor was that his intent.
He said he had confidence in Coates, as well as his intelligence people.

Yes, he did.

"All I can do is ask the question - my people came to me, Dan Coats came to me and some others, they said they think it's Russia. I have President Putin he just said it's not Russia. I will say this, I don't see any reason why it would be but I really want to see the server but, I have confidence in both parties." He later called Putin's denial of meddling "extremely strong and powerful" - Donald J. Trump (July 16, 2018 in Helsinki, Finland while standing next to Vladimir Putin)

He clearly took Putin's word over that of Dan Coats. He said as much today.

 

[Smokey'sHandler]

Mueller made it a lot worse this time. To prove his new stuff would require outing intelligence sources; we've deliberately not prosecuted known spies in the past to prevent that. Just the fact that he's made the claim tells Russia and everyone else that we've penetrated their system and they need to correct it. We were successful in WW2 by having hacked the German and Japanese coding systems and keeping them from knowing it while we reaped the rewards. Mueller is the one Trump should be having for lunch because Mueller just gave Russia the playbook.

Folks in this investigation and several from the Democratic side are so determined to find something and break it on Trump that they are willing to compromise themselves plus others to do so.

 

[AM64]

"I LOVE WikiLeaks!" Donald J. Trump (in a speech given in September of 2016)

Aren't you part of the context party. He love Wikileaks for making the Dims look stupid while he campaigned against the Dims. Do try and make the light bulb come on and see the connection.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Aren't you part of the context party. He love Wikileaks for making the Dims look stupid while he campaigned against the Dims. Do try and make the light bulb come on and see the connection.

You say that just as you ignored the context of that post you quoted. I was responding to another poster who asked what good the hacking of the DNC could do for Trump's campaign. It gave him ammunition to use against Hillary Clinton at his campaign rallies, obviously.

 

[Obsessed]

You say that just as you ignored the context of that post you quoted. I was responding to another poster who asked what good the hacking of the DNC could do for Trump's campaign. It gave him ammunition to use against Hillary Clinton at his campaign rallies, obviously.

Obviously... it didn’t work. Did it? She won the popular vote. Correct?

 

[BowlBrother85]

Obviously... it didn’t work. Did it? She won the popular vote. Correct?

I have repeatedly said that I don't believe that Russia's interference had any impact at all on the outcome of the election. Our nation is so divided right now down party lines, that short of actually hacking into vote tallies and changing them, Russia is wasting their time trying to meddle but .... that does not make what they did right and it's very disconcerting that we have a President who even in the face of his own intelligence agencies conclusions, refuses to publicly hold Russia accountable for their actions.

 

[Vol0725]

Yes, he did.

"All I can do is ask the question - my people came to me, Dan Coats came to me and some others, they said they think it's Russia. I have President Putin he just said it's not Russia. I will say this, I don't see any reason why it would be but I really want to see the server but, I have confidence in both parties." He later called Putin's denial of meddling "extremely strong and powerful" - Donald J. Trump (July 16, 2018 in Helsinki, Finland while standing next to Vladimir Putin)

He clearly took Putin's word over that of Dan Coats. He said as much today.

So where exactly did Trump say he took Putin's word over Coates? Can't seem to hear that on any of the full audio.

 

[Smokey'sHandler]

You say that just as you ignored the context of that post you quoted. I was responding to another poster who asked what good the hacking of the DNC could do for Trump's campaign. It gave him ammunition to use against Hillary Clinton at his campaign rallies, obviously.

What was more of a threat to the 2016 election:

1. Illegal Immigrant voters (remember to vote you must be a citizen of the United states).

2. Deceased voters

3. An obscure Russian website posting propaganda against Hilary.